It's a decent deal as long as you understand it's not future proof or upgradeable. I opened up the one I bought for my kid and it oddly has the M.2 drive sticking out past the mother board attached to a clip that was broken. Ended up installing a 2.5" SSD to replace both the spinning disc and m.2 drive that wouldn't stay on.
Here's a picture of the motherboard where you can see the orientation of the m.2 slot pointing down.
Approx. $600 or so. CPU ($150 to $180) and GPU ($260 to $300) alone would cost around $450 retail. Mobo, case, PSU, RAM, SSD and HDD, and everything else would add up to over $150 easy. Keyboard and mouse are like $20?
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A 3060 12gb isn't anything to write home about, especially at its price point. This is configuration is more for productivity work, running blender with cuda, etc. The much cheaper rx6600xt is a better gaming option.
Agreed 3060 may be too slow for serious gamer, but it uses less power than faster GPU.
2x 3060-12GB will beat 1x 4070-12GB for AI because 24GB RAM can run bigger models.
Approx. $600 or so. CPU ($150 to $180) and GPU ($260 to $300) alone would cost around $450 retail. Mobo, case, PSU, RAM, SSD and HDD, and everything else would add up to over $150 easy. Keyboard and mouse are like $20?
Good estimate for parts. My friends usually forget to add Windows & Labor costs.
+ Windows 11 Home $100 at Microsoft; or $3-40 depending on how legit.
+ Labor is $80 x 2 hours = $160 to build & test; or more to debug any issue.
Approx. $600 or so. CPU ($150 to $180) and GPU ($260 to $300) alone would cost around $450 retail. Mobo, case, PSU, RAM, SSD and HDD, and everything else would add up to over $150 easy. Keyboard and mouse are like $20?
Truthfully, if one was to build one today. I would highly urge you to utilize combos and stick to 7600x 7700x if on budget and still be under 900$, for sake of easy CPU upgradability in 4-5 years.
Most BRs and free to play Multiplayer games are mostly CPU intensive anyways, so a 3060 on 1080p will last longer than one may first perceive it to be. Pretty happy with my 2080Ti Thank God. Maybe I will upgrade if some great deals pop up this year.
A 3060 12gb isn't anything to write home about, especially at its price point. This is configuration is more for productivity work, running blender with cuda, etc. The much cheaper rx6600xt is a better gaming option.
I am a GPU newbie, but passmark score on 3060 12gb is higher than rx6600xt. Are there other factors?
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03-04-2024 at 08:12 PM.
This system provides a reasonable value but the trade-off is the incorporation of relatively custom components in the form of an OEM motherboard and power supply.
This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.
The motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.
As such, this recommends at least three possible approaches:
Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of their GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
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Here's a picture of the motherboard where you can see the orientation of the m.2 slot pointing down.
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2x 3060-12GB will beat 1x 4070-12GB for AI because 24GB RAM can run bigger models.
+ Windows 11 Home $100 at Microsoft; or $3-40 depending on how legit.
+ Labor is $80 x 2 hours = $160 to build & test; or more to debug any issue.
$100 legit Windows from MSFT. Anywhere from $5 to $40 on gray market sites. Lower prices = riskier.
"Not allowed"? You're not my dad.
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Most BRs and free to play Multiplayer games are mostly CPU intensive anyways, so a 3060 on 1080p will last longer than one may first perceive it to be. Pretty happy with my 2080Ti Thank God. Maybe I will upgrade if some great deals pop up this year.
Nvidia has a better feature set from RT to upscaling to compute, so frame per dollar type comparisons are oversimplfied.
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This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.
The motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.
As such, this recommends at least three possible approaches:
- Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
- Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of their GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
- Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
Good luck!Jon