These bikes are awesome and in 3 years when they are down in the $1000 range, it's going to be sweet!
Careful because it's not highly unlikely that your first repair bill for a "well loved" to neglected eMTB of that caliber cab be close to that $500~1K in addition. Shocks, forks, brakes, drivetrain...all need maintenance that a good % of riders won't bother with.
Careful not to be offloaded that "deal" of a full sus bike. And that's without even contemplating battery or motor issues.
Think of it like those amazing Porsche boxter/cayman or e60 M5s etc on sale...1st proper service will probably double the asking price. If you are lucky. Congrats if you can do it yourself with parts your cousin has for free, but...most won't.
I had a moterra neo. Awesome bike. Fantastic geometry for an ebike, made the suspension feel like a much lighter bike. Motors and batteries are pretty reliable these days, but look into the warranty.
Careful because it's not highly unlikely that your first repair bill for a "well loved" to neglected eMTB of that caliber cab be close to that $500~1K in addition. Shocks, forks, brakes, drivetrain...all need maintenance that a good % of riders won't bother with.
Careful not to be offloaded that "deal" of a full sus bike. And that's without even contemplating battery or motor issues.
Think of it like those amazing Porsche boxter/cayman or e60 M5s etc on sale...1st proper service will probably double the asking price. If you are lucky. Congrats if you can do it yourself with parts your cousin has for free, but...most won't.
Not sure why this is getting downvoted. This is one of the many reasons the used market can be a bit rough on those who don't know how much replacement of a drivetrain or a new fork costs.
My first full suspension was exactly this. I bought it for the low cost of entry at $800 and to me it was amazing. After about 10 rides I realized the suspension was clapped out and drivetrain was heavily worn. Over the next year component by component I spent another grand easily. 1800 at the beginning would have gotten me a better bike.
Edited to add that those costs were with me wrenching and waiting to find sale prices on each part and was ten years ago. Double all the prices for today's bike costs and double the part replacements if it was msrp and done by the shop.
Not sure why this is getting downvoted. This is one of the many reasons the used market can be a bit rough on those who don't know how much replacement of a drivetrain or a new fork costs.
My first full suspension was exactly this. I bought it for the low cost of entry at $800 and to me it was amazing. After about 10 rides I realized the suspension was clapped out and drivetrain was heavily worn. Over the next year component by component I spent another grand easily. 1800 at the beginning would have gotten me a better bike.
Some people fail to see the good faith in arguments.
I love wrenching on my bikes and scoring deals etc, but I know for a fact that many people have no interest in doing it, or no tools, or no patience or all of the above and then some. Yet they will jump head first in "deals" because they get hyped by forums or YT and whatnot.
I know that there are great deals in the used market and after a couple more years when ppl with "accept" they won't be riding their pandemic/early post-pandemic bikes, there will be even more deals.
BUT...these kind of bikes are more akin to race cars or race-motos: components need regular maintenance, often regardless of miles (i.e. every year or every 6mo or x hours of riding, whatever comes first kind of deal) and if you neglect it, seals sitting w/o fresh lubrication go bad, chains start rusting and wearing prematurely and chains that are worn are wearing down the cogs they mesh with, blah blah. It escalates fast and there is virtually nothing under $50-100 these days, and that's before labor costs...these are not the undead "barn-finds" you see on TV that will fire up 20y later under 2in of dust..regular TLC is needed. Suspension annual service might be $200-250 each end, brake bleeds can be $50 each end with another $25-30 in pads, a frikin single tire can be $75-100.
And if you find the "deal" that was run to the ground, till it stopped running great, but no TLC was given till something actually started klanking, then went to the LBS and got hit with the repair bill that they are not willing to pay for, you need to be in the position to identify the issues and at a minimum negotiate the price down before pulling the trigger.
Anyways... Lots of ink spilled on bikes in SD by me, coming from a good place.
To each their own after that.
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Careful because it's not highly unlikely that your first repair bill for a "well loved" to neglected eMTB of that caliber cab be close to that $500~1K in addition. Shocks, forks, brakes, drivetrain...all need maintenance that a good % of riders won't bother with.
Careful not to be offloaded that "deal" of a full sus bike. And that's without even contemplating battery or motor issues.
Think of it like those amazing Porsche boxter/cayman or e60 M5s etc on sale...1st proper service will probably double the asking price. If you are lucky. Congrats if you can do it yourself with parts your cousin has for free, but...most won't.
That's not how this is going to go…. At all.
Careful not to be offloaded that "deal" of a full sus bike. And that's without even contemplating battery or motor issues.
Think of it like those amazing Porsche boxter/cayman or e60 M5s etc on sale...1st proper service will probably double the asking price. If you are lucky. Congrats if you can do it yourself with parts your cousin has for free, but...most won't.
My first full suspension was exactly this. I bought it for the low cost of entry at $800 and to me it was amazing. After about 10 rides I realized the suspension was clapped out and drivetrain was heavily worn. Over the next year component by component I spent another grand easily. 1800 at the beginning would have gotten me a better bike.
Edited to add that those costs were with me wrenching and waiting to find sale prices on each part and was ten years ago. Double all the prices for today's bike costs and double the part replacements if it was msrp and done by the shop.
My first full suspension was exactly this. I bought it for the low cost of entry at $800 and to me it was amazing. After about 10 rides I realized the suspension was clapped out and drivetrain was heavily worn. Over the next year component by component I spent another grand easily. 1800 at the beginning would have gotten me a better bike.
I love wrenching on my bikes and scoring deals etc, but I know for a fact that many people have no interest in doing it, or no tools, or no patience or all of the above and then some. Yet they will jump head first in "deals" because they get hyped by forums or YT and whatnot.
I know that there are great deals in the used market and after a couple more years when ppl with "accept" they won't be riding their pandemic/early post-pandemic bikes, there will be even more deals.
BUT...these kind of bikes are more akin to race cars or race-motos: components need regular maintenance, often regardless of miles (i.e. every year or every 6mo or x hours of riding, whatever comes first kind of deal) and if you neglect it, seals sitting w/o fresh lubrication go bad, chains start rusting and wearing prematurely and chains that are worn are wearing down the cogs they mesh with, blah blah. It escalates fast and there is virtually nothing under $50-100 these days, and that's before labor costs...these are not the undead "barn-finds" you see on TV that will fire up 20y later under 2in of dust..regular TLC is needed. Suspension annual service might be $200-250 each end, brake bleeds can be $50 each end with another $25-30 in pads, a frikin single tire can be $75-100.
And if you find the "deal" that was run to the ground, till it stopped running great, but no TLC was given till something actually started klanking, then went to the LBS and got hit with the repair bill that they are not willing to pay for, you need to be in the position to identify the issues and at a minimum negotiate the price down before pulling the trigger.
Anyways... Lots of ink spilled on bikes in SD by me, coming from a good place.
To each their own after that.