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Lenovo ThinkPad Z16 Laptop: Ryzen 7 Pro 6850H, 16" FHD+, 16GB LPDDR5, RX 6500M

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The Official Lenovo Store via eBay has Lenovo ThinkPad Z16 Laptop (21D4000JUS) on sale for $749.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

Note, product will be sold/shipped by The Official Lenovo Store

Specs/Key Features:
  • AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 6850H Processor (3.20 GHz up to 4.70 GHz)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920x1200, WUXGA+) 16:10, 400-nits, 100% sRGB, Low Power, Low Blue Light, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • AMD Radeon RX 6500M 4GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • 16GB LPDDR5-6400MHz Memory (Soldered)
  • 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal SSD
  • WiFi 6E 2x2 AX + Bluetooth 5.1 or above
  • 1080P FHD RGB/IR Hybrid Camera with Privacy Shutter and Dual Microphone
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • 72Whr Battery
  • Windows 11 Pro 64
    • Ports:
      • 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2
      • 2x USB4
      • 1x SD Card Slot
      • 1x Headphone / Microphone Combo Jack

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The Official Lenovo Store via eBay has Lenovo ThinkPad Z16 Laptop (21D4000JUS) on sale for $749.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

Note, product will be sold/shipped by The Official Lenovo Store

Specs/Key Features:
  • AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 6850H Processor (3.20 GHz up to 4.70 GHz)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920x1200, WUXGA+) 16:10, 400-nits, 100% sRGB, Low Power, Low Blue Light, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • AMD Radeon RX 6500M 4GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • 16GB LPDDR5-6400MHz Memory (Soldered)
  • 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal SSD
  • WiFi 6E 2x2 AX + Bluetooth 5.1 or above
  • 1080P FHD RGB/IR Hybrid Camera with Privacy Shutter and Dual Microphone
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • 72Whr Battery
  • Windows 11 Pro 64
    • Ports:
      • 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2
      • 2x USB4
      • 1x SD Card Slot
      • 1x Headphone / Microphone Combo Jack

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Dr.Wajahat
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Because you're unaware of the difference between a gaming laptop and a workstation/business laptop.
I_like_feet
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It's funny because this has two USB4 ports which is what people yearn for and homeboy is complaining about old ports with less functionality.
doema
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16" with discrete GPU, decent sized battery, good low power display, 8-core efficient CPU and 4lbs, not bad!!

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Apr 03, 2024 11:27 AM
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LEOMHK1.0Apr 03, 2024 11:27 AM
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Quote from I_like_feet :
It's funny because this has two USB4 ports which is what people yearn for and homeboy is complaining about old ports with less functionality.
He's also upset because it also does not have a DVI
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Apr 03, 2024 12:27 PM
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Quote from koolaid_kid21 :
Why would they make the ram not upgradable ?
Ask Apple. Or Dell. Or HP. Or anyone who makes modern thin and light laptops.
Thin laptops don't have room for an SODIMM slot.
Technically, very high speed RAM is more reliable when soldered and is faster (lower latency). Try and find 6400MT/s SODIMM's. My Lenovo P16s actually has 7200MT/s chips in it. You simply cannot run high speed ram reliably through a SODIMM connection. Lastly, the use of LPDDR5 (Low Power DDR5) uses less power and extends battery life. I've only ever seen LPDDR5 soldered.
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Apr 03, 2024 12:31 PM
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Quote from eyeofthetiger87 :
It's only 0.62 inches height, there's no way to place those obsolete ports.
HDMI and USB-A are hardly obsolete just because you don't use them. There are magnitudes more USB products with USB-A connections than USB-C. There are also magnitudes more monitors with HDMI ports than USB-C. I don't disagree that USB-C monitors are the future, but your use of the word "obsolete" is just wrong.
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Quote from I_like_feet :
It's funny because this has two USB4 ports which is what people yearn for and homeboy is complaining about old ports with less functionality.
Old ports you say?
What percentage of monitors (old and new) don't have HDMI?
What percentage of external hard drives, wireless mice (non-BT) and flash drives aren't USB-A?
Last edited by Hat-Trick April 3, 2024 at 06:07 AM.
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Zap_RowsdowerApr 03, 2024 02:02 PM
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Quote from seanleeforever :
It doesn't have dedicated buttons for track pointer.
Kind of deal breaker if you use track pointer
Thank you!

I can only assume that the downvoters aren't TrackPoint users or don't care about the UltraNav layout (my foremost reason for purchasing ThinkPads). That's perfectly reasonable, but the inclusion of discrete buttons is important to some people – including those with disabilities impacting dexterity.

I might have overlooked this detail, so I sincerely appreciate the heads-up.
Apr 03, 2024 02:30 PM
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SDSummerDayApr 03, 2024 02:30 PM
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Quote from Zap_Rowsdower :
Thank you!

I can only assume that the downvoters aren't TrackPoint users or don't care about the UltraNav layout (my foremost reason for purchasing ThinkPads). That's perfectly reasonable, but the inclusion of discrete buttons is important to some people – including those with disabilities impacting dexterity.

I might have overlooked this detail, so I sincerely appreciate the heads-up.
This is a good laptop otherwise.
I was interested in it last time it was on sale, and found out that design trade off. Most non ultranav users enjoyed larger apple like trackpad, but like the 40 series that came out 10 years ago, I personally cannot use the integrated ultranav button, and has to return and skip over that entire generation. be able to use track pointer is the primary reason for me as long time Thinkpad user for over 20 years
Last edited by seanleeforever April 3, 2024 at 07:33 AM.
Apr 03, 2024 03:05 PM
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LX_ShrekApr 03, 2024 03:05 PM
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Great laptop & build quality. Have owned 2 of them. Only caution is that USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 docks is unreliable on this model.

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Apr 03, 2024 03:37 PM
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SDSummerDayApr 03, 2024 03:37 PM
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Quote from LX_Shrek :
Great laptop & build quality. Have owned 2 of them. Only caution is that USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 docks is unreliable on this model.
This laptop doesn't have TB4, it has USB 4. which is slightly less capable.
TB4 dock would normally work fine with USB 4, until you do large size file transfers to max speeds.
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LX_ShrekApr 03, 2024 03:53 PM
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Quote from seanleeforever :
This laptop doesn't have TB4, it has USB 4. which is slightly less capable.
TB4 dock would normally work fine with USB 4, until you do large size file transfers to max speeds.
Exactly. Read my post above. I stated it has USB 4.

I'm telling potential buyers that if they are buying it with the intention of using with Thinkpad Thunderbolt 4 dock, Thinkpad Thunderbolt 3 dock, Kennsington Thunderbolt 4 dock, they will be sorely disappointed. (I've tested all above.)
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eyeofthetiger87Apr 03, 2024 04:03 PM
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Quote from Hat-Trick :
HDMI and USB-A are hardly obsolete just because you don't use them. There are magnitudes more USB products with USB-A connections than USB-C. There are also magnitudes more monitors with HDMI ports than USB-C. I don't disagree that USB-C monitors are the future, but your use of the word "obsolete" is just wrong.
Using of HDMI and USB-A is not obsolete, a 2024 laptop with these ports is obsolete or any 2024 peripheral launched without USB-C. There are many simple solutions for legacy compatibility as a USB-C dock with PD. I already use a USB-C monitor and (almost) never use a USB-A device in my office or home, the only legacy port that I need to use is a RJ45 port for some equipment that cannot be connected in a wireless network, just in a local wired network.
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SDSummerDayApr 03, 2024 04:14 PM
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Quote from LX_Shrek :
Exactly. Read my post above. I stated it has USB 4.

I'm telling potential buyers that if they are buying it with the intention of using with Thinkpad Thunderbolt 4 dock, Thinkpad Thunderbolt 3 dock, Kennsington Thunderbolt 4 dock, they will be sorely disappointed. (I've tested all above.)
With this laptop?
I happen to have the Thinkpad TB4 dock, and I have a few laptop with TB4 or USB 4. The only issues I have with USB 4 laptop in TB4 dock is when I transfer huge (20g+) size files with USB 3.1 gen 2x2 drives.
I haven't had any other issue, granted, I also hasn't try out one of those TB 4 dock with build in 7600 dgpu, but id like to think for the most majorly of use case, TB4 or USB 4 makes very little difference
Last edited by seanleeforever April 3, 2024 at 09:16 AM.
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Quote from eyeofthetiger87 :
Using of HDMI and USB-A is not obsolete, a 2024 laptop with these ports is obsolete or any 2024 peripheral launched without USB-C. There are many simple solutions for legacy compatibility as a USB-C dock with PD. I already use a USB-C monitor and (almost) never use a USB-A device in my office or home, the only legacy port that I need to use is a RJ45 port for some equipment that cannot be connected in a wireless network, just in a local wired network.
Again, you think your scenario is everyones! Not everyone wants to deal with dock. Not everyone has a brand new monitor with USB-C port or dock built-in. I would venture a guess that a large majority of people don't. So while YOU may have set yourself up with the latest and greatest and find no need for USB-A or HDMI ports, that doesn't mean the other 95% of people don't need them.

Personally, I don't like having to use a dongle or adapter just to plug something in that doesn't match an available port. It's infinitely more convenient to have a USB-A and USB-C and RJ45 port on my laptop.

Check out the definition of "obsolete". USB-A and HDMI are not obsolete. Floppy discs and SCSI drive interfaces are obsolete.
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I_like_feetApr 03, 2024 09:49 PM
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Quote from Hat-Trick :
Old ports you say?
What percentage of monitors (old and new) don't have HDMI?
What percentage of external hard drives, wireless mice (non-BT) and flash drives aren't USB-A?
Adapters exist, it's not the end of the world bounce
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eyeofthetiger87Apr 03, 2024 10:24 PM
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Quote from Hat-Trick :
Again, you think your scenario is everyones! Not everyone wants to deal with dock. Not everyone has a brand new monitor with USB-C port or dock built-in. I would venture a guess that a large majority of people don't. So while YOU may have set yourself up with the latest and greatest and find no need for USB-A or HDMI ports, that doesn't mean the other 95% of people don't need them.

Personally, I don't like having to use a dongle or adapter just to plug something in that doesn't match an available port. It's infinitely more convenient to have a USB-A and USB-C and RJ45 port on my laptop.

Check out the definition of "obsolete". USB-A and HDMI are not obsolete. Floppy discs and SCSI drive interfaces are obsolete.
I agree, but everybody must understand that if you buy a last generation laptop, then you should not expect that this must be compatible with all old tech or, at least, this should not be the rule. There are some "complete" PC lines as Lenovo Thinkpad T series and those who needs all that compatibility, should have to find that specific lines.

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Quote from eyeofthetiger87 :
I agree, but everybody must understand that if you buy a last generation laptop, then you should not expect that this must be compatible with all old tech or, at least, this should not be the rule. There are some "complete" PC lines as Lenovo Thinkpad T series and those who needs all that compatibility, should have to find that specific lines.
Just to be clear, I never complained about the ports. That was someone else who was then attacked by the Port Squad for desiring a better variety of ports to meet THEIR needs. I was simply defending that person against people who make it sound like no one uses or sells devices with USB-A and HDMI. I purchased my Lenovo P16s specifically because it does have a wide variety of ports (including RJ45) and also because it's packed with great specs and 64GB of RAM and OLED for $1100! Smilie

That being said, despite the deal being expired (it will likely be back) the Z16 is a quality laptop with good battery life and features (if you can find the model with OLED, even nicer!)
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