Participating Subaru Dealerships [
dealership locator] have
2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to
Lease at
$241/month for
36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.
Thanks to community member
KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
- Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
- All-wheel-drive electric crossover
- Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
- Range: 228 miles
- 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
- 8.3" of ground clearance
- Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform
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edit: I shouldn't say that either, LTO starting batteries are pretty phenomenal. But the only commercial implementation I've ever seen was in a BMW as the start/stop battery.
How was the insurance quote for this? I know a 2023 Teslas model 3 base was about 2k more than a 2023 Camry hybrid when it came to full coverage insurance annually.
Doesnt matter how cheap the car is, if their going to pound you dry for insurance annually.
Maybe go read them to understand why your claims are factually untrue?
(I note you've failed to provide a single link supporting your own, untrue, claims-- why is that?)
The nearest you can get is B20, which is still 80% normal fossil fuel diesel.
And even then the B6 through B20 blends often kill your vehicle warranty even if they work ok.... VW for example, for decades, only approved up to B5 (95% regular diesel, 5% bio) in their cars, with a very few, very recently, allowing higher.
That's on top of biodisel produced using "waste" oil is only a TINY percentage of all fuel stock used in its making.
That's on top of you having yet to provide any source that it's cleaner all all than EVs--- let alone when in most cars only 5% of your fuel can be that- and it's mostly made with "new" oil not waste.
Yes because they made garbage battery packs without properly cooling or battery management.
They represent only a small fraction of all EVs on the road, and aren't even for sale new anymore though.
AFAIK all new EVs (even the later-gen leafs in their last years) are not built that way (though I suppose there might be some obscure chinese-market microcars that still are--- not super relevant here)
Because that's dirtier, less efficient, and more complex (both manufacturing and maintenance) than a BEV?
Hybrids are like futons-- not as good at either thing they try and mingle as a dedicated solution is.
(Plus mass fueling consumer cars on CNG would be kind of nuts infrastructure wise--- versus most people already have electricity in their homes)
Maybe shop around? Because insurance pricing can vary WILDLY. One recent study they called like a dozen insurance companies and got quotes ranging from as high as like $4500 a year to as low as $1500 a year. Same coverage, same driver, same Tesla model.
edit: I shouldn't say that either, LTO starting batteries are pretty phenomenal. But the only commercial implementation I've ever seen was in a BMW as the start/stop battery.
All Teslas made in the last few years use a lithium battery for their low voltage battery, replacing the older lead-acid/gel ones previously used.
but.
how often do u make 1600 mile trip...versus a 50 mile trip .
How was the insurance quote for this? I know a 2023 Teslas model 3 base was about 2k more than a 2023 Camry hybrid when it came to full coverage insurance annually.
Doesnt matter how cheap the car is, if their going to pound you dry for insurance annually.
I got a quote on a model Y LR and it was 108.
My insurance agent broke down that its the likelyhood that the vehicle will be in an accident x the repair cost. It was a price wash because of the safety of the vehicle.
I see people with crazy rate quotes, shop around.
What's the big deal about someone who likes alternative energy? Why do people care about EV's so much when they have ZERO effect on them? Most people have not even tried them before criticizing them and banishing them the deepest depths of hello.
My GT500 would only get about 170 miles of range on a full tank. I never, in over 20k miles, drove it from full to empty on any day.
I best most people cant recall a day they pulled out of their garage with a full tank and had to fill it up before returning.
EV drivers are car people too. Try one before being so critical.
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This deeply misunderstands how most people use cars.
99% of the time you're NOT on a road trip.
Which means you have to waste 5-10 minutes a week (or 10-20 if you drive a lot- or more if you fuel at costco
While an EV owner wastes 0 time detouring anywhere, they're charging while they sleep at home (and for a much lower cost too) always waking up to a fueled vehicle with plenty of range for all their local driving.
The couple times a year a longer trip happens, they're still typically not doing more than 500 miles in a single day. Which a longer range EV can do with ONE stop of 15-20 minutes--- about the same as you'd make in a gas car to not just fuel, but get drinks, use the restroom, etc.
Even if you're a marathoner who wants to do 700 miles in a day a second 15-20 min stop gets you there (or a single longer stop when having a sit-down meal, as most folks travelling 10+ hours would do anyway)
And either way thanks to the local time savings, over the course of a whole year you waste far less time "fueling" an EV than you ever will keeping a gas car fueled all year.
Again the road trip stuff applies to most EVs sold these days- which have 250-350 miles of range out of the gate, and support real, fairly ubiquitous, fast charging.... the Subaru in this deal is not that and really is a throwback good-for-local-drives car because Toyota tech is so out of date... but applying that outlier to EVs in general is to simply ignore the reality of modern EVs (of which this isn't really one)
I got a quote on a model Y LR and it was 108.
My insurance agent broke down that its the likelyhood that the vehicle will be in an accident x the repair cost. It was a price wash because of the safety of the vehicle.
I see people with crazy rate quotes, shop around.
Or might be you picked especially expensive companies.
https://www.marketwatch
Allstate and Geico quoted near $4500 to insure a Tesla. Farmers was almost $3700. Other companies were as low as $1500-1800 for the same driver, same coverage, in the same car.
Shop around.
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99% of the time you're NOT on a road trip.
Which means you have to waste 5-10 minutes a week (or 10-20 if you drive a lot- or more if you fuel at costco
While an EV owner wastes 0 time detouring anywhere, they're charging while they sleep at home (and for a much lower cost too) always waking up to a fueled vehicle with plenty of range for all their local driving.
The couple times a year a longer trip happens, they're still typically not doing more than 500 miles in a single day. Which a longer range EV can do with ONE stop of 15-20 minutes--- about the same as you'd make in a gas car to not just fuel, but get drinks, use the restroom, etc.
Even if you're a marathoner who wants to do 700 miles in a day a second 15-20 min stop gets you there (or a single longer stop when having a sit-down meal, as most folks travelling 10+ hours would do anyway)
And either way thanks to the local time savings, over the course of a whole year you waste far less time "fueling" an EV than you ever will keeping a gas car fueled all year.
Again the road trip stuff applies to most EVs sold these days- which have 250-350 miles of range out of the gate, and support real, fairly ubiquitous, fast charging.... the Subaru in this deal is not that and really is a throwback good-for-local-drives car because Toyota tech is so out of date... but applying that outlier to EVs in general is to simply ignore the reality of modern EVs (of which this isn't really one)
I have gas cars as well as electric. If I want to go on a long road trip, I would rent a car to avoid depreciation/wear of my gas car and put the thousands of miles on it.
Why would I drive my wife's X5M on a road trip when I can rent a Sienna for 50 bucks a day and put the 2k miles on it. Same situation as my Tesla, I've driven from Missouri to Chicago, took one stop each way for about 45 mins. My hotel in Chicago had a charger and I left with a full battery.
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