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expiredphoinix | Staff posted Apr 28, 2024 09:40 AM
Breville Barista Touch Espresso Machine (BES880BSS)
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Phillips is a super automattic.
This is a semi automatic.
The main difference is that it will auto froth the milk for you.
The breville does but you technically need to fill the cup each time. Also breville allows you to manually froth if you wish.
I have the breville, and we had a saeco Incanto (which is a super auto similar to the phillips) before.
I believe our saeco actually broke after about a year. Theres definitely more parts obviously.
My big take away was that you constantly had to clean out the milk container which easily got pretty nasty, you can put the container in the fridge but still.
Also we drink large coffees, yeti cups etc the milk container often had to be refilled every morning.
The super required more cleaning cycles and such naturally. I dont recall exactly, but it just wasnt nearly as convenient as youd hope for. Not to mention it broke.
The breville requires a little trial and error to set up.
As someone else stated, i bought an extension for the portafilter, dosing funnel its called. To help keep the grinds in.
I also bought a better tamper, bc im a noob and it helps me get the pressure right.
The breville is close to fully auto,
Cleaning and such is far less common and pretty easy.
Its been pretty reliable and makes some great coffee.
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Either way theres no going back to pit coffee
But birthday is coming up, now I can hunt my wife and family about this. Maybe "Thanks op" is in order if I do get it.
Btw this price is at every retailer. Macys, and target has the same price.
If you get it. You absolutely need a dosing funnel designed for it from Amazon and a good tamper. Get an open porta filter. Don't get the fancy insert until you've learned espresso. The ones that come with are fine. You absolutely need a microgram scale. I think it's a calibrated science scale? I don't know. Look for the ones rated by users of illicit substances. It needs to be accurate to the tenth of a gram.
Ignore their setup instructions.
I dialed mine down to grind size 4. Mines from late 2021.
What I did to get my current dial in is the following.
I calibrated for 18 grams of beans in. I would measure and dump in. I adjusted my grind until was getting about 1:2. I usually get out about 42g of espresso.
Get a small glass espresso cup with scales on it. So you visualize the oz. It helps when using the same cup for syrups. And once you get the hang of it. You can quickly see if you're off by where the lines out. Like I said. I'm right around 2oz per shot.
Once I got my grind set, I worked on seeing the exact time it would take to grind without measuring. I did this until I got the timer outputting +/- .5 grams.
In the end. It's now dial and forget. I don't really care about the frother since I use 1% milk. You aren't getting a good product unless you use a whole fat milk.
1% ain't it.
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I had a 50ish dollar Krups espresso machine long ago. I never was able to get a shot of espresso out of it that I found enjoyable.
I have this machine, and... Well, I enjoy far too many cups per week now. 😅 I still buy "out" coffee drinks, but now I can make them just as good as the coffee shop in my own kitchen.
If you're happy with what you have, I'd probably advise caution with any changes. Espresso as a hobby seems to basically be a bottomless well to throw money down. But at least for me, this particular machine was the sweet spot on the scale of drink quality to ease of use, and was worth the expense. On that note, I bought it for this same price, but Seattle Coffee Gear was throwing in an extended warranty at the time. Not sure if they may be doing that this time around.
If you get it. You absolutely need a dosing funnel designed for it from Amazon and a good tamper. Get an open porta filter. Don't get the fancy insert until you've learned espresso. The ones that come with are fine. You absolutely need a microgram scale. I think it's a calibrated science scale? I don't know. Look for the ones rated by users of illicit substances. It needs to be accurate to the tenth of a gram.
Ignore their setup instructions.
I dialed mine down to grind size 4. Mines from late 2021.
What I did to get my current dial in is the following.
I calibrated for 18 grams of beans in. I would measure and dump in. I adjusted my grind until was getting about 1:2. I usually get out about 42g of espresso.
Get a small glass espresso cup with scales on it. So you visualize the oz. It helps when using the same cup for syrups. And once you get the hang of it. You can quickly see if you're off by where the lines out. Like I said. I'm right around 2oz per shot.
Once I got my grind set, I worked on seeing the exact time it would take to grind without measuring. I did this until I got the timer outputting +/- .5 grams.
In the end. It's now dial and forget. I don't really care about the frother since I use 1% milk. You aren't getting a good product unless you use a whole fat milk.
1% ain't it.
Phillips is a super automattic.
This is a semi automatic.
The main difference is that it will auto froth the milk for you.
The breville does but you technically need to fill the cup each time. Also breville allows you to manually froth if you wish.
I have the breville, and we had a saeco Incanto (which is a super auto similar to the phillips) before.
I believe our saeco actually broke after about a year. Theres definitely more parts obviously.
My big take away was that you constantly had to clean out the milk container which easily got pretty nasty, you can put the container in the fridge but still.
Also we drink large coffees, yeti cups etc the milk container often had to be refilled every morning.
The super required more cleaning cycles and such naturally. I dont recall exactly, but it just wasnt nearly as convenient as youd hope for. Not to mention it broke.
The breville requires a little trial and error to set up.
As someone else stated, i bought an extension for the portafilter, dosing funnel its called. To help keep the grinds in.
I also bought a better tamper, bc im a noob and it helps me get the pressure right.
The breville is close to fully auto,
Cleaning and such is far less common and pretty easy.
Its been pretty reliable and makes some great coffee.
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Tamper that has a spring to help me get the force right:
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