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Phyn - Smart Water Assistant - Matte Black, $59.99 after $240 off

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Track water use with this Phyn smart water assistant. The included mounting screws and adhesive strip offer easy installation, and the compatible app lets you monitor water consumption and alerts you to leaks. This Phyn smart water assistant automatically learns your plumbing system and is compatible with popular virtual assistants so you can access reports and alerts using voice commands.

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greenmobsta
05-25-2024 at 07:22 AM.
05-25-2024 at 07:22 AM.
Would this work for cistern water level monitoring?
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oilman1
05-25-2024 at 08:09 AM.
05-25-2024 at 08:09 AM.
Seems to be DEAD. ?
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tabishman
05-25-2024 at 09:17 AM.
05-25-2024 at 09:17 AM.
Where are you guys installing these? Too expensive under every faucet
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jjamez
05-25-2024 at 09:20 AM.
05-25-2024 at 09:20 AM.
Quote from cnmuranjan :
Most likely your water meter is already emitting signal about your (or neighbors) water usage even the leaks. You just need to catch that signal using any cheapest rtl-sdr dongle. That's what i do and been happy since then. Must have cost me about $25 or so.
So once I have a device to listen in on this signal, how do I interface something to alert me?
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cal3thousand
05-25-2024 at 09:41 AM.
05-25-2024 at 09:41 AM.
It only makes an educated guess based on water pressure.

Probably only makes sense if you have consistent pressure.
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MidnightGamer
05-25-2024 at 10:01 AM.
05-25-2024 at 10:01 AM.
I can tract my water use on my meter (or monthly bill) and detect leaks of everything is turned off and meter showing water usage. A plumber taught me that trick. I'm trying to see if I need this or not.
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Msyou2oo
05-25-2024 at 10:01 AM.
05-25-2024 at 10:01 AM.
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I'm getting one. The trick is going ti be how to install it on the neighbors system and to link the alerts into their phones. If I can get it to monetize the amount of water they are wasting would be perfect. I've mentioned the issue to them but they haven't responded to these hints, so next steps!

Why are you so invested in someone else water waste?
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puntoa
05-25-2024 at 10:31 AM.
05-25-2024 at 10:31 AM.
Quote from cnmuranjan :
Most likely your water meter is already emitting signal about your (or neighbors) water usage even the leaks. You just need to catch that signal using any cheapest rtl-sdr dongle. That's what i do and been happy since then. Must have cost me about $25 or so.

Can you explain this? My electric company just change the meter for a smart meter. Can I use rtl-sdr dongle to pick up the signal?
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05-25-2024 at 10:44 AM.
05-25-2024 at 10:44 AM.
Quote from puntoa :
Can you explain this? My electric company just change the meter for a smart meter. Can I use rtl-sdr dongle to pick up the signal?

It depends on the protocol. Many of the newest are encrypted (so inaccessible in the utility has a program and a Home Area Network. Is it Xcel Energy by chance?
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cnmuranjan
05-25-2024 at 10:47 AM.
05-25-2024 at 10:47 AM.
Quote from puntoa :
Can you explain this? My electric company just change the meter for a smart meter. Can I use rtl-sdr dongle to pick up the signal?

Most probably, yes. There's list of water meters which can work with rtl-sdr. 'rtlamr' software is designed to decrypt such signal and the list is on their github page.
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05-25-2024 at 10:49 AM.
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Quote from jjamez :
So once I have a device to listen in on this signal, how do I interface something to alert me?

Sorry, i sounded like it's very easy to achieve. But no, it does require little more extra work. You'll need 'home assistant' or some sort of smart home software kind of like google home. Then you'll need proper software to decode the signal you receive from your dongle, such as rtl-433 and rtl-tcp. These softwares will decode the signal and send it to 'mqtt' broker. You can then subscribe to a particular activity (aka topic) within mqtt broker and this subscription will alert you. I know, i sound like blabbering but actually easy to achieve. Please read more about all the 'softwates' i mentioned and see if this is something you can achieve. I did it once about 2 years ago, and still going strong.
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IdahoRoamingGnome
05-25-2024 at 01:54 PM.
05-25-2024 at 01:54 PM.
Quote from Cecerious :
Screw it. Ordered one, even though I already have Flume. Tired of having to change the expensive ass Lithium batteries, and dealing with the family of snails and spiders living in my meter box. All I care about is leak detection anyway, not usage.

I haven't used mine in a couple of years due to the batteries. I was wondering if the USB rechargeable AAs would work as a decent replacement, since they should output a constant 1.5v until 80-90% charge used.
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05-25-2024 at 03:52 PM.
05-25-2024 at 03:52 PM.
Quote from IdahoRoamingGnome :
I haven't used mine in a couple of years due to the batteries. I was wondering if the USB rechargeable AAs would work as a decent replacement, since they should output a constant 1.5v until 80-90% charge used.

The thing is with rechargeable lithiums, the cells stay at 1.5v until depleted. So the device will just die, giving no low battery warning.

Typical NiMH rechargeables are 1.2v, so they will give low battery warnings from the start.

I tried alkaline Duracells once (didn't want to go too cheap experimenting with the not-recommended normal AA batteries), and they worked fine for about a month, then started acting all wonky. Got constant low battery warnings, and a few dead warnings, yet the device would come back to life a few minutes later. They did last like 8 months before completely going out though lol
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t588t588
05-26-2024 at 02:25 PM.
05-26-2024 at 02:25 PM.
Can this be used for well water system?
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SlickDogg
06-04-2024 at 03:42 PM.
06-04-2024 at 03:42 PM.
Has anyone received theirs? The first one I received was used. I ordered a replacement and that was also an open box.
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