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Lenovo LOQ (2024): 15.6" FHD 144Hz, Ryzen 7 7435HS, RTX 4060, 16GB DDR5, 512GB SSD $799.99
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The specs sheet for this laptop can be found here: https://psref.lenovo.co
There are two primary downsides to this laptop.
The first is the r7 7435HS cpu. The 7435hs appears to be a slower clocked version of the r7 7735hs without the igpu (integrated gpu). It is not a current gen zen 4 cpu. Instead, it uses the last gen zen 3+ architecture, being similar in performance to the previous gen r7 6800h while supporting relatively few newer features such as ddr5 (only up to ddr5 4800). As a refreshed previous gen architecture, certain features such as higher speed ddr5 support, avx512 support, integrated npu, etc. are non-existent compared to zen 4 phoenix cpus. Power efficiency is also worse. Additionally, while the lack of an igpu typically isn't a major issue for dekstop cpus, in a laptop this can lead to meaningfully worse battery life. Even though this functionally last gen down-clocked cpu is somewhat disappointing, it is unlikely to hold back the rtx 4060 in gaming to a meaningful extent, and should be grudgingly sufficient for a gaming laptop of this price tier.
The second major downside of this laptop is it's 60whr battery. This is fairly low for a non-thin gaming laptop, and by itself means that this laptop will have relatively poor battery life even amongst gaming laptops, which are already notorious for having terrible battery life. The lack of an igpu only exacerbates this issue, since the dedicated gpu (the rtx 4060) will always be in use. Overall, I'd expect the battery life of this laptop to be quite poor.
The mobile rtx 4060 is the cheapest current gen nvidia mobile gpu that has 8gb of vram, which is a crucial threshold for 1080p gaming. Gpus with below 8gb of vram are relegated to solely budget tier gaming even at 1080p. The next step up, the mobile rtx 4070, is around 20% faster in gaming, while having the same amount of vram. In most respects the mobile rtx 4060 is the value sweetspot, since getting a laptop with a mobile 4070 would usually be ~$300 more. The mobile rtx 4080 is massively superior in terms of performance, but laptops with the 4080 tend to be at absolute minimum $1600. The rtx 4060 in this laptop only has a tgp of 105w, meaning it is not a full power variant. However, performance scaling in gaming for the mobile 4060 stops at 100w, so you don't actually lose any gaming performance with the 105w tgp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMrh6P
The screen in this laptop is competent for the price point: 1080p, 144hz, 300nits, 100%srgb, g-sync tics all the right boxes. It should perform decently for every day use and midrange 1080p gaming (what this laptop is designed for), though I wouldn't recommend using it for any color sensitive work. If you'd mainly be using your laptop for productivity rather than gaming, you might be better served looking for laptops with a 1440p screen. The lack of an igpu means you don't need to be concerned about a mux switch or optimus.
This laptop has two user accessible ram slots (occupied by 2x 8gb ddr5 4800 SO-DIMM ram sticks), and officially supports up to 32gb ddr5 4800. It's possible (though not guaranteed) that this laptop could accept 64gb of ram, however the cpu means this laptop absolutely can not accept any ddr5 ram faster than 4800mt/s.
This laptop has two user accessible m.2 2280 pcie gen4 x4 storage slots (one occupied by the 512gb gen4 m.2 2242 ssd).
The 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd are acceptable capacities for this price range, though realistically you'd probably want to upgrade to a decent 2tb ssd.
I haven't heard of their being any major issues with the lenovo loq chassis, though it has a more plastic-ey construction and feels substantially cheaper compared to the higher end legion series. The array of ports are competent at least.
Ultimately, at $800 this laptop is a decent value, but it isn't a truly incredible deal. If you need a gaming laptop right now this wouldn't be a terrible purchase, but if you can I'd personally recommend waiting for another deal of similar caliber to the $800 g15 to reappear (the deal linked below was originally $800, but it got changed to $850 after a day): https://slickdeals.net/f/17396106-dell-g15-laptop-15-6-1080p-165hz-ryzen-7-7840hs-rtx-4060-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-850-free-shipping
The specs sheet for this laptop can be found here: https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/L...83JC0000US [lenovo.com]
There are two primary downsides to this laptop.
The first is the r7 7435HS cpu. The 7435hs appears to be a slower clocked version of the r7 7735hs without the igpu (integrated gpu). It is not a current gen zen 4 cpu. Instead, it uses the last gen zen 3+ architecture, being similar in performance to the previous gen r7 6800h while supporting relatively few newer features such as ddr5 (only up to ddr5 4800). As a refreshed previous gen architecture, certain features such as higher speed ddr5 support, avx512 support, integrated npu, etc. are non-existent compared to zen 4 phoenix cpus. Power efficiency is also worse. Additionally, while the lack of an igpu typically isn't a major issue for dekstop cpus, in a laptop this can lead to meaningfully worse battery life. Even though this functionally last gen down-clocked cpu is somewhat disappointing, it is unlikely to hold back the rtx 4060 in gaming to a meaningful extent, and should be grudgingly sufficient for a gaming laptop of this price tier.
The second major downside of this laptop is it's 60whr battery. This is fairly low for a non-thin gaming laptop, and by itself means that this laptop will have relatively poor battery life even amongst gaming laptops, which are already notorious for having terrible battery life. The lack of an igpu only exacerbates this issue, since the dedicated gpu (the rtx 4060) will always be in use. Overall, I'd expect the battery life of this laptop to be quite poor.
The mobile rtx 4060 is the cheapest current gen nvidia mobile gpu that has 8gb of vram, which is a crucial threshold for 1080p gaming. Gpus with below 8gb of vram are relegated to solely budget tier gaming even at 1080p. The next step up, the mobile rtx 4070, is around 20% faster in gaming, while having the same amount of vram. In most respects the mobile rtx 4060 is the value sweetspot, since getting a laptop with a mobile 4070 would usually be ~$300 more. The mobile rtx 4080 is massively superior in terms of performance, but laptops with the 4080 tend to be at absolute minimum $1600. The rtx 4060 in this laptop only has a tgp of 105w, meaning it is not a full power variant. However, performance scaling in gaming for the mobile 4060 stops at 100w, so you don't actually lose any gaming performance with the 105w tgp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMrh6P
The screen in this laptop is competent for the price point: 1080p, 144hz, 300nits, 100%srgb, g-sync tics all the right boxes. It should perform decently for every day use and midrange 1080p gaming (what this laptop is designed for), though I wouldn't recommend using it for any color sensitive work. If you'd mainly be using your laptop for productivity rather than gaming, you might be better served looking for laptops with a 1440p screen. The lack of an igpu means you don't need to be concerned about a mux switch or optimus.
This laptop has two user accessible ram slots (occupied by 2x 8gb ddr5 4800 SO-DIMM ram sticks), and officially supports up to 32gb ddr5 4800. It's possible (though not guaranteed) that this laptop could accept 64gb of ram, however the cpu means this laptop absolutely can not accept any ddr5 ram faster than 4800mt/s.
This laptop has two user accessible m.2 2280 pcie gen4 x4 storage slots (one occupied by the 512gb gen4 m.2 2242 ssd).
The 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd are acceptable capacities for this price range, though realistically you'd probably want to upgrade to a decent 2tb ssd.
I haven't heard of their being any major issues with the lenovo loq chassis, though it has a more plastic-ey construction and feels substantially cheaper compared to the higher end legion series. The array of ports are competent at least.
Ultimately, at $800 this laptop is a decent value, but it isn't a truly incredible deal. If you need a gaming laptop right now this wouldn't be a terrible purchase, but if you can I'd personally recommend waiting for another deal of similar caliber to the $800 g15 to reappear (the deal linked below was originally $800, but it got changed to $850 after a day): https://slickdeals.net/f/17396106-dell-g15-laptop-15-6-1080p-165hz-ryzen-7-7840hs-rtx-4060-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-850-free-shipping
ig for gaming.. 1080p would be better rather than downscaling. i see your points now.
The specs sheet for this laptop can be found here: https://psref.lenovo.co
There are two primary downsides to this laptop.
The first is the r7 7435HS cpu. The 7435hs appears to be a slower clocked version of the r7 7735hs without the igpu (integrated gpu). It is not a current gen zen 4 cpu. Instead, it uses the last gen zen 3+ architecture, being similar in performance to the previous gen r7 6800h while supporting relatively few newer features such as ddr5 (only up to ddr5 4800). As a refreshed previous gen architecture, certain features such as higher speed ddr5 support, avx512 support, integrated npu, etc. are non-existent compared to zen 4 phoenix cpus. Power efficiency is also worse. Additionally, while the lack of an igpu typically isn't a major issue for dekstop cpus, in a laptop this can lead to meaningfully worse battery life. Even though this functionally last gen down-clocked cpu is somewhat disappointing, it is unlikely to hold back the rtx 4060 in gaming to a meaningful extent, and should be grudgingly sufficient for a gaming laptop of this price tier.
The second major downside of this laptop is it's 60whr battery. This is fairly low for a non-thin gaming laptop, and by itself means that this laptop will have relatively poor battery life even amongst gaming laptops, which are already notorious for having terrible battery life. The lack of an igpu only exacerbates this issue, since the dedicated gpu (the rtx 4060) will always be in use. Overall, I'd expect the battery life of this laptop to be quite poor.
The mobile rtx 4060 is the cheapest current gen nvidia mobile gpu that has 8gb of vram, which is a crucial threshold for 1080p gaming. Gpus with below 8gb of vram are relegated to solely budget tier gaming even at 1080p. The next step up, the mobile rtx 4070, is around 20% faster in gaming, while having the same amount of vram. In most respects the mobile rtx 4060 is the value sweetspot, since getting a laptop with a mobile 4070 would usually be ~$300 more. The mobile rtx 4080 is massively superior in terms of performance, but laptops with the 4080 tend to be at absolute minimum $1600. The rtx 4060 in this laptop only has a tgp of 105w, meaning it is not a full power variant. However, performance scaling in gaming for the mobile 4060 stops at 100w, so you don't actually lose any gaming performance with the 105w tgp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMrh6P
The screen in this laptop is competent for the price point: 1080p, 144hz, 300nits, 100%srgb, g-sync tics all the right boxes. It should perform decently for every day use and midrange 1080p gaming (what this laptop is designed for), though I wouldn't recommend using it for any color sensitive work. If you'd mainly be using your laptop for productivity rather than gaming, you might be better served looking for laptops with a 1440p screen. The lack of an igpu means you don't need to be concerned about a mux switch or optimus.
This laptop has two user accessible ram slots (occupied by 2x 8gb ddr5 4800 SO-DIMM ram sticks), and officially supports up to 32gb ddr5 4800. It's possible (though not guaranteed) that this laptop could accept 64gb of ram, however the cpu means this laptop absolutely can not accept any ddr5 ram faster than 4800mt/s.
This laptop has two user accessible m.2 2280 pcie gen4 x4 storage slots (one occupied by the 512gb gen4 m.2 2242 ssd).
The 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd are acceptable capacities for this price range, though realistically you'd probably want to upgrade to a decent 2tb ssd.
I haven't heard of their being any major issues with the lenovo loq chassis, though it has a more plastic-ey construction and feels substantially cheaper compared to the higher end legion series. The array of ports are competent at least.
Ultimately, at $800 this laptop is a decent value, but it isn't a truly incredible deal. If you need a gaming laptop right now this wouldn't be a terrible purchase, but if you can I'd personally recommend waiting for another deal of similar caliber to the $800 g15 to reappear (the deal linked below was originally $800, but it got changed to $850 after a day): https://slickdeals.net/f/17396106-dell-g15-laptop-15-6-1080p-165hz-ryzen-7-7840hs-rtx-4060-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-850-free-shipping
The specs sheet for this laptop can be found here: https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/L...83JC0000US [lenovo.com]
There are two primary downsides to this laptop.
The first is the r7 7435HS cpu. The 7435hs appears to be a slower clocked version of the r7 7735hs without the igpu (integrated gpu). It is not a current gen zen 4 cpu. Instead, it uses the last gen zen 3+ architecture, being similar in performance to the previous gen r7 6800h while supporting relatively few newer features such as ddr5 (only up to ddr5 4800). As a refreshed previous gen architecture, certain features such as higher speed ddr5 support, avx512 support, integrated npu, etc. are non-existent compared to zen 4 phoenix cpus. Power efficiency is also worse. Additionally, while the lack of an igpu typically isn't a major issue for dekstop cpus, in a laptop this can lead to meaningfully worse battery life. Even though this functionally last gen down-clocked cpu is somewhat disappointing, it is unlikely to hold back the rtx 4060 in gaming to a meaningful extent, and should be grudgingly sufficient for a gaming laptop of this price tier.
The second major downside of this laptop is it's 60whr battery. This is fairly low for a non-thin gaming laptop, and by itself means that this laptop will have relatively poor battery life even amongst gaming laptops, which are already notorious for having terrible battery life. The lack of an igpu only exacerbates this issue, since the dedicated gpu (the rtx 4060) will always be in use. Overall, I'd expect the battery life of this laptop to be quite poor.
The mobile rtx 4060 is the cheapest current gen nvidia mobile gpu that has 8gb of vram, which is a crucial threshold for 1080p gaming. Gpus with below 8gb of vram are relegated to solely budget tier gaming even at 1080p. The next step up, the mobile rtx 4070, is around 20% faster in gaming, while having the same amount of vram. In most respects the mobile rtx 4060 is the value sweetspot, since getting a laptop with a mobile 4070 would usually be ~$300 more. The mobile rtx 4080 is massively superior in terms of performance, but laptops with the 4080 tend to be at absolute minimum $1600. The rtx 4060 in this laptop only has a tgp of 105w, meaning it is not a full power variant. However, performance scaling in gaming for the mobile 4060 stops at 100w, so you don't actually lose any gaming performance with the 105w tgp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMrh6P
The screen in this laptop is competent for the price point: 1080p, 144hz, 300nits, 100%srgb, g-sync tics all the right boxes. It should perform decently for every day use and midrange 1080p gaming (what this laptop is designed for), though I wouldn't recommend using it for any color sensitive work. If you'd mainly be using your laptop for productivity rather than gaming, you might be better served looking for laptops with a 1440p screen. The lack of an igpu means you don't need to be concerned about a mux switch or optimus.
This laptop has two user accessible ram slots (occupied by 2x 8gb ddr5 4800 SO-DIMM ram sticks), and officially supports up to 32gb ddr5 4800. It's possible (though not guaranteed) that this laptop could accept 64gb of ram, however the cpu means this laptop absolutely can not accept any ddr5 ram faster than 4800mt/s.
This laptop has two user accessible m.2 2280 pcie gen4 x4 storage slots (one occupied by the 512gb gen4 m.2 2242 ssd).
The 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd are acceptable capacities for this price range, though realistically you'd probably want to upgrade to a decent 2tb ssd.
I haven't heard of their being any major issues with the lenovo loq chassis, though it has a more plastic-ey construction and feels substantially cheaper compared to the higher end legion series. The array of ports are competent at least.
Ultimately, at $800 this laptop is a decent value, but it isn't a truly incredible deal. If you need a gaming laptop right now this wouldn't be a terrible purchase, but if you can I'd personally recommend waiting for another deal of similar caliber to the $800 g15 to reappear (the deal linked below was originally $800, but it got changed to $850 after a day): https://slickdeals.net/f/17396106-dell-g15-laptop-15-6-1080p-165hz-ryzen-7-7840hs-rtx-4060-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-850-free-shipping
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Heat is the enemy of gaming laptops and having it thicker is better. It's a feature.
Personally, I like that it only has the one GPU. That means all apps are forced to used the big boy GPU, you only have one set/brand of graphics drivers installed, etc.
Given, of course, that this is meant as a gaming laptop that rarely moves and is always plugged in except for the briefest of general uses. The onboard battery is a high quality integrated UPS in this regard.