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expirediconian | Staff posted Jun 03, 2024 01:32 PM
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Dell OptiPlex 3070 Desktop (Refurbished): i3-9100T, 8GB RAM, Windows 10 Pro

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Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 3070 Desktops (Refurbished) on sale for 50% Off when you apply coupon code WOW3070DEAL at checkout. Shipping is free.

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Example configuration:
  • Dell OptiPlex 3070 $279 - 50% off w/ WOW3070DEAL = $139.50
    • Intel Core i3-9100T (4-Core, 3.10 GHz)
    • 8 GB (1x 8GB) RAM
    • 500 GB (1x 500 GB) HDD
    • Windows 10 Professional
    • Cosmetic Grade A

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  • These desktop computers are good candidates for home office use.
  • Windows 10 Pro includes features not seen in Windows 10 Home, such as BitLocker drive encryption, Hyper-V virtualization, and better remote desktop access.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Dell Refurbished has Dell OptiPlex 3070 Desktops (Refurbished) on sale for 50% Off when you apply coupon code WOW3070DEAL at checkout. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for finding this deal.

Example configuration:
  • Dell OptiPlex 3070 $279 - 50% off w/ WOW3070DEAL = $139.50
    • Intel Core i3-9100T (4-Core, 3.10 GHz)
    • 8 GB (1x 8GB) RAM
    • 500 GB (1x 500 GB) HDD
    • Windows 10 Professional
    • Cosmetic Grade A

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • These desktop computers are good candidates for home office use.
  • Windows 10 Pro includes features not seen in Windows 10 Home, such as BitLocker drive encryption, Hyper-V virtualization, and better remote desktop access.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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recklessk
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False information, the N305 would be just slightly faster than the intel i5-8500. The N100 is only half the speed, but I agree is way more efficient. So I would say this is a good deal because you are getting a lot more expandability. There are 4 ram slots, 1 x 3.5" HDD cage, 1 M.2 SSD slot and 1 x M.2 wifi slot that you install a for wireless. I had purchased 1 from the last deal.

Although you can get a N100 box with a smaller footprint, you may not be able to upgrade the ram or wifi card. I ran into that myself and decided to return it for that reason. I think each has their own strengths.
wherestheanykey
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They're exaggerating a bit.

Most of the N100 boxes are barebones, so you're probably looking at $250 to get it fully running.

Over long term use, though, you're saving a ton on electricity.
JamesH1227
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You're joking. Passmark has N100 benchmark at 5,550 while a 3ghz i5-8500 is 9,561. The N100 is a lot closer to a i5 4670k that came out over a decade ago. It does use less power than a 8th gen desktop cpu, but it's also much less powerful.

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Jun 05, 2024 12:18 PM
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sphawk88Jun 05, 2024 12:18 PM
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fwiw don't forget to check eBay listings…I ended up grabbing a used optiplex 3000 i5 12500/32gb ram/500gb ssd for $350 last night versus one of these listings to replace our current Dell optiplex i7-6700. slightly newer chipset so should last a few years longer for not much more.
Jun 05, 2024 12:46 PM
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slippydealerJun 05, 2024 12:46 PM
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Quote from wherestheanykey :
They're exaggerating a bit.

Most of the N100 boxes are barebones, so you're probably looking at $250 to get it fully running.

Over long term use, though, you're saving a ton on electricity.
You can actually get N100 boxes with RAM, SSD, and the Windows license for about the same price. Here's one on Amazon with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD for $135. https://www.amazon.com/GMKtec-Min...B0CH81C4K3

Even so, as others have pointed out, the Dell here has a big raw performance advantage. Also, these cheap N100 boxes are mostly from companies that provide limited/no long term support, whereas Dell is quite good about providing firmware updates and other updates as new security exploits arise, even for machines that are older.
Jun 05, 2024 01:08 PM
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slippydealerJun 05, 2024 01:08 PM
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Quote from ttplayer4life :
H.266 is a new, more efficient video compression codec standard that all websites that provide video streams should go 2. If will be faster 4 them as well as their users, especially if hardware natively supports H.266 like the N100 does.

N100 lacks the high cpu power that gamers will want. However, for those just streaming a video from a H.266 website, it will be a highly cost effective, low power CPU.
Are you sure the N100 supports H266? Guru 3D says that the first hardware to support H.266 decode will be the Intel Xe2 GPUs, and AFAIK none of the chips with Xe2 are out yet.
Jun 05, 2024 01:13 PM
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Toby16customJun 05, 2024 01:13 PM
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Don't forget to check windows 11 support….
Jun 05, 2024 01:24 PM
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wcsJun 05, 2024 01:24 PM
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Quote from recklessk :
False information, the N305 would be just slightly faster than the intel i5-8500. The N100 is only half the speed, but I agree is way more efficient. So I would say this is a good deal because you are getting a lot more expandability. There are 4 ram slots, 1 x 3.5" HDD cage, 1 M.2 SSD slot and 1 x M.2 wifi slot that you install a for wireless. I had purchased 1 from the last deal.

Although you can get a N100 box with a smaller footprint, you may not be able to upgrade the ram or wifi card. I ran into that myself and decided to return it for that reason. I think each has their own strengths.
Quote from JamesH1227 :
You're joking. Passmark has N100 benchmark at 5,550 while a 3ghz i5-8500 is 9,561. The N100 is a lot closer to a i5 4670k that came out over a decade ago. It does use less power than a 8th gen desktop cpu, but it's also much less powerful.
Unless something changed with the deal its for an i3 which is 4 cores, you are talking 6 core i5.
Passmark for 9100t is 5442
Passmark for n100 is 5547

The thing I dont like about the N100 boxes is they are mostly straight from chinese no name manufacturers. MSI does make an n100 minipc for $130, but missing RAM, OS and HD so definitely not comparable in price unless you have stuff laying around and dont mind fiddling with OS (linux or sketchy windows key)

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Cubi-A...104&sr=8-2
Jun 05, 2024 01:37 PM
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madsci1016Jun 05, 2024 01:37 PM
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Quote from bageland2000 :
Does anyone know if AMEX Dell deals trigger for this site? I have a $50 off $100. I'm questioning because the URL is "dellrefurbished" and not something like "refurbished.dell.com" or something.
It did NOT for me last time i tried.
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timpJun 05, 2024 01:58 PM
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Quote from Elon69 :
Actual question. What's the actual electricity cost saved for a year?. I always see new fridges with these stickers about electricity savings but it seems like it's just a little bit of money. I think $10-20 per year?

I am curious about these Pc differences and just never did the math
Probably in that range depending on how much your electricity costs, but it also heavily depends on what you are planning on doing with the computer. I have one of these mini-PCs running an i5-11400t and it consumes less than 2w at idle, 20-25w at moderate load. I suspect this i3-9100t would have similar power consumption. I don't have an N100 to compare but I suspect power consumption on that would be less than 10 watts even at full load.
If you are running a plex server and only streaming 1-2 hours per day, you might not even notice a power savings. However if you are torrenting or running processes 24/7, then the savings might add up. If you figure 15w savings with an N100, that works out to $22 yearly savings per year in electricity assuming the average electricity cost of 16.7 cents/kW.

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Jun 05, 2024 02:08 PM
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chuck07Jun 05, 2024 02:08 PM
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Quote from megablank :
N100 Complete at $136
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166388450606
This seems to be the same but $20 cheaper. I didn't look too hard so there may be some difference. Different sellers at least.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335294911112
Jun 05, 2024 02:14 PM
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pzkingJun 05, 2024 02:14 PM
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FYI. 3070's HDMI can only output 4K@30Hz but DP outputs 4K@ 60Hz.
Jun 05, 2024 02:18 PM
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IndigoTank7262Jun 05, 2024 02:18 PM
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I need a few desktops for around the office that are used primarily for checking distributors websites. Will this suit my needs? <What OS does it come with?
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justyeJun 05, 2024 02:20 PM
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Quote from silentK :
Link?
https://a.co/d/0XSHQvu

The other person is wrong about the barebones systems. I'm not sure why people are upvoting that BS.

AliExpress has one for $117 but I don't think I can post links for that website here. The Beelink one has Crucial memory while the AliExpress one might have less reliable RAM and SSD.

Make sure to reinstall Windows if you go down the cheap N100 mini PC route.
Last edited by justye June 5, 2024 at 08:28 AM.
Jun 05, 2024 02:24 PM
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jablackJun 05, 2024 02:24 PM
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There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. The power savings between this and an N100 is never going to be 4x. The idle power on this is 9w-12w. I have a 3060 micro and I believe the 9w might even be high ( I took some extra steps and removed the wifi card because I wasn't planning to use it).

If you are looking at the TDP of the CPU and thinking that is a good measure of how "efficient" a CPU is, you are wrong. That number only tells you what a CPU could potentially draw when fully loaded. It does not cover idle power nor does it account for the rest of the components within a system that draw power (motherboard, RAM, storage, power supply, etc). Nobody runs just a CPU.

I personally wouldn't bother with the N100 or N305. Yah, you might find something more efficient, but you are definitely going to have to do a lot of research and you'll most likely never get the level of support you would from buying a Dell and you certainly won't be able to find the same number of parts easily purchasable online.

FYI: Power efficiency numbers came from: https://www.servethehome.com/proj...ook%20line.
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phddriverJun 05, 2024 02:32 PM
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will take my chances with the i7 with 16gb of ram for 40$ on eBay thanks though
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this good for home assistant server?

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warlock110Jun 05, 2024 03:00 PM
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Quote from slippydealer :
You can actually get N100 boxes with RAM, SSD, and the Windows license for about the same price. Here's one on Amazon with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD for $135. https://www.amazon.com/GMKtec-Min...B0CH81C4K3

Even so, as others have pointed out, the Dell here has a big raw performance advantage. Also, these cheap N100 boxes are mostly from companies that provide limited/no long term support, whereas Dell is quite good about providing firmware updates and other updates as new security exploits arise, even for machines that are older.
I agree. Honestly I like the dell optiplex micro boxes compare to the n100. They were built for office use so they are extremely reliable. And people talk about power consumption should measure it. I'll give it a test soon. I got a few i5 8500 laying around.

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