expirediconian | Staff posted Jun 12, 2024 01:50 AM
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expirediconian | Staff posted Jun 12, 2024 01:50 AM
15" Klipsch SPL-150 800W Subwoofer
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i have personally seen a lot of amp failures with their previous models. time will tell if they have made improvements in that area.
2 years on the electronics and 5 years on the driver
while the spec says 18Hz that is very misleading because there is no +/- range. in real world usage expect down to about 25Hz (+/- 3dB - typical range for "flat" response). the difference between 18 and 25Hz is significant.
RSL subs are a bit different. they use a compression guide tuning to reduce port noise and improve low end performance. their products can easily outperform subs with larger drivers.
they produce equipment in batches based on demand to keep costs down (no expensive inventory to house). from time to time they will be on backorder but usually within a month they are back in stock. keep an eye out as they also run group buy programs so you can save even more.
bang for the buck RSL subs are hard to beat.
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You've clearly missed my entire point, so I'll try to state it as simply as possible: anechoic measurements are not indicative of typical "real world" extension because rooms have walls.
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This can be an amazing value sub if you don't run into plate amp issues. Unfortunately, they do seem to plague this model and are the reason that most people recommend sticking with the new rp line for Klipsch subs. At this price point, it may be worth the risk for some.
Theres more to subwoofer performance than the size of the woofer, amplifier wattage, and lowest frequency output (despite these being the most advertised metrics). Other factors such as cabinet bracing, cabinet weight, backwave management, and the quality of the driver make significant and measurable differences between subs.
Compared to the speedwoofer 10e/10sii, spl150 gain around 7hz more extension (thats quite a bit) but I would wager the transients are much slower since the single magnet in the spl150 driver is severely underspeced compared to the double magnet driver in the speedwoofers despite the 150 having to push a MUCH MUCH bigger/heavier cone. Slow transients are a big reason why some subwoofers are hard to integrate into speaker systems and why some subs sound like a separate speaker instead of an extension of your mains (besides phase issues). This coupled with an inferior cabinet design due to less bracing and a simpler port layout (resulting in more cabinet resonances) makes it understandable why the spl-150 is in a similar price bracket as a speedwoofer 10sii.
If you are purchasing mainly for a home theater system these shortcomings are forgivable as you don't really need fast transients to enjoy that <20hz rumble from a movie explosion. Some genres of music could also benefit if the bass is mostly slow and low waves like 808s.
However, if your music of choice has primarily percussive bass like bass guitars, drums, or a faster synth bass like in some pop/edm tracks you will hear the cabinet continuing to resonate from the last note as the woofer plays the next causing a loss in clarity. You might find yourself turning the gain down or even turning off the sub if your mains are capable enough
This is a fantastic value for home theater, but will 'just suffice' for music. If you need both extension and finesse it's worth to spend a bit more into a rp-1400(on sale) or speedwoofer 12s.
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screw it, bought 2, I'll figure out the rest later lol.
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Theres more to subwoofer performance than the size of the woofer, amplifier wattage, and lowest frequency output (despite these being the most advertised metrics). Other factors such as cabinet bracing, cabinet weight, backwave management, and the quality of the driver make significant and measurable differences between subs.
Compared to the speedwoofer 10e/10sii, spl150 gain around 7hz more extension (thats quite a bit) but I would wager the transients are much slower since the single magnet in the spl150 driver is severely underspeced compared to the double magnet driver in the speedwoofers despite the 150 having to push a MUCH MUCH bigger/heavier cone. Slow transients are a big reason why some subwoofers are hard to integrate into speaker systems and why some subs sound like a separate speaker instead of an extension of your mains (besides phase issues). This coupled with an inferior cabinet design due to less bracing and a simpler port layout (resulting in more cabinet resonances) makes it understandable why the spl-150 is in a similar price bracket as a speedwoofer 10sii.
If you are purchasing mainly for a home theater system these shortcomings are forgivable as you don't really need fast transients to enjoy that <20hz rumble from a movie explosion. Some genres of music could also benefit if the bass is mostly slow and low waves like 808s.
However, if your music of choice has primarily percussive bass like bass guitars, drums, or a faster synth bass like in some pop/edm tracks you will hear the cabinet continuing to resonate from the last note as the woofer plays the next causing a loss in clarity. You might find yourself turning the gain down or even turning off the sub if your mains are capable enough
This is a fantastic value for home theater, but will 'just suffice' for music. If you need both extension and finesse it's worth to spend a bit more into a rp-1400(on sale) or speedwoofer 12s.
Theres more to subwoofer performance than the size of the woofer, amplifier wattage, and lowest frequency output (despite these being the most advertised metrics). Other factors such as cabinet bracing, cabinet weight, backwave management, and the quality of the driver make significant and measurable differences between subs.
Compared to the speedwoofer 10e/10sii, spl150 gain around 7hz more extension (thats quite a bit) but I would wager the transients are much slower since the single magnet in the spl150 driver is severely underspeced compared to the double magnet driver in the speedwoofers despite the 150 having to push a MUCH MUCH bigger/heavier cone. Slow transients are a big reason why some subwoofers are hard to integrate into speaker systems and why some subs sound like a separate speaker instead of an extension of your mains (besides phase issues). This coupled with an inferior cabinet design due to less bracing and a simpler port layout (resulting in more cabinet resonances) makes it understandable why the spl-150 is in a similar price bracket as a speedwoofer 10sii.
If you are purchasing mainly for a home theater system these shortcomings are forgivable as you don't really need fast transients to enjoy that
There is a difference.
I have had high dollar subs and low dollar subs. The high dollar subs aren't always what they are cracked up to be.
SVS provides tremendous service though! That's for sure.
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There's no way the entry level SVS 1000 can even compare to this, much less the new line of RP subs including the 14 inch for $700. SVS isn't the bargain that it used to be in the days of the $425 PB-12NSD.
He clearly mentioned that other brands such as K… is not that of high quality.
He clearly mentioned that other brands such as K… is not that of high quality.
It's not that they aren't high quality. It's a diff market.
Why do you Think SVS has a constant and consistent flow of open box items? Same reason why every Best Buy is riddled with open box Samsung TV's.
People think they want them until they have them
https://slickdeals.net/f/17073199-14-klipsch-reference-premiere-rp-1400sw-subwoofer-699-free-shipping
SPL-150's for $450 or RP-1400SW for $700?
Orders on Adorama aren't shipping until Friday.
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