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  • The DS923+ is rated 4.8 out of 5 stars from customer reviews.
  • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that the DS923+ 4-Bay is $120 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $599.99. -SaltyOne

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  • The DS923+ is rated 4.8 out of 5 stars from customer reviews.
  • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that the DS923+ 4-Bay is $120 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $599.99. -SaltyOne

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rattlingabhi
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From mackdack that I always use for reference :

DS224+ (also 920+, 423+, 220+, 720+, 1520+) supports 4k transcoding with inbuilt GPU (rest Synology does not or very incapable). Adding RAM also help in overall performance. DS224+ is Value buy for first time Plex users (add more RAM to make it 6GB . RAMs are very inexpensive )

QNAP TS-464 has everything you need for Plex but little expensive.

FYI: 4k transcoding is mostly needed when you want to play your Plex content on mobile/ipad (assuming you have plex pass). On home TV, you rarely need 4k transcoding.

For non-Plex users , most of the NAS are fine.
SlickDolphin738
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The 923+ does transcode, it just doesn't have GPU acceleration.
mackdack
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Damn… that's I posted long long back. Glad to know that it's still helping people.
Thanks for sharing & acknowledgement

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Quote from drzk :
Obviously Synology is established and trusted. But dang I've been disappointed in the way security and access are set up. For example, in wanting say DAV access to be restricted to certain folders, that isn't possible. Instead, you have to restrict account access to certain folders. Then use those accounts to log in to DAV. That's backwards. The problem is, with admin and other accounts having DAV access, entire volumes are exposed. So you end up denying DAV access to all accounts but one. It's difficult to do this and counterintuitive and frustrating. Very disappointed in the security model DSM uses.

I use wireguard to vpn in and use smb. But for offering access to others to specific folders, there problems like this arise.
DAV is obsolete, though.
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Quote from jonebgood :
Over the past 10 years the prices of NAS enclosures seem like they've not really fluctuated. Why are they so expensive? Is there a software interface to make it easy to consume media stored (or do you have to also get Plex)? How do you justify the prices of these devices plus the cost of drives, and at what point does it make sense to use this vs converting an old desktop PC to something functionally similar?
That's for you to determine. I bought mine almost 6 years ago. $229 for the NAS, $80 per 4tb drive, and it has ran flawless since day one. I do backups of 2 laptops, photo storage for 2 phones, store important documents that are shared between wife and I, store the kids documents that are used for school and such, as well as some media but I don't do plex. These are not just for plex. I also have docker installed running home assistant and pihole.

There isn't another option better than this, locally, for the price. But yes, you could convert an old PC if you want to set it up as a network attached storage device, but synology specifically has great software to make it easy to set things up. That and docker make this very invaluable.
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lakesemaj
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Quote from davin900 :
Huh I didn't even know they made routers. Interesting
They make really solid router. Or cutting edge tech but solid , much like the software.
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exilepa
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Quote from freshducksniper :
So does the DS923+ do transcoding? Anyone ever experience using emby or jellyfin on it?
It will do transcoding, just not GPU transcoding. This means the CPU will be working harder to transcode without any aid from a GPU. Real world performance, not sure how much this would stress this particular CPU.
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Huntinforthedeals
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My experience with Qnap and Synology was ok but then went nightmare.

The Qnap registration was changed and tied to a Ukrainian IP address in 2021.

I had two ISPs to try cryptocurrency trading and got DDOSed.

I sold the Qnap and got a Synology 4 bay.

It uses OpenVPN to setup 2fa and quickconnect.

But for four of them, they're still running virtualized DSM in AWS. I turned my machine off.

It's because of Let's Encrypt certificates which runs on AWS. Cloudflare also gives free.

I started checking certificates, and indeed.com is showing Let's Encrypt. Like what the heck? Was it always that way?

You can't audit free. Too much.

Certificates bypass VPN and firewall controls with the public and private key pair.

Even federal workers turned out to be malicious and corrupt.

Big economic problem as a result.

You can get a private local CA certificates from a Windows Server. For deep packet inspection and certificate checks.

But Microsoft has been getting contracts to get more contracts. Bill shorting Tesla is stupid. But they get contracts not just for themselves but to kill the competition.

It's not simply big government watching you but big tech.
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PowerfulRaccoon3767
Jul 17, 2024
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Quote from mrittman :
I have a 2-bay NAS. Sorry for the dumb question, but what are the benefits to upgrading to a 4-bay?
In my case I'm going to be expanding the storage pool and also going from my NVR appliance to surveillance station and will be using one or two bays for surveillance drives.

I like that the 923 has 2 network interfaces so you can keep your security cameras and your NAS on separate networks.
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Quote from CoolAppliance356 :
I wouldn't make a nas decision based on Plex. The $180 nvidia shield can be the server, just point the shield at the nas. People getting not getting the nas they want is similar to buying a much inferior house because it had a jet shower. U do know you could have bought the better house and added a jet shower, right? Anyways it's better to keep them separate. The device storing irreplaceable data I'd want the least that can go wrong
I get what you are saying, but adding a $180 device to a $480 device, is 37.5% extra. That's not insignificant and cannot really be compared to adding a jet shower to a house; no jet shower costs almost 40% of the house. I asked earlier in this thread but didn't get a response. Is there a budget friendly option to add an external transcoding device, that can do native 4K transcoding reasonably well? I already had the Nvidia shield pro and sold it a few years ago. I don't need another streaming device, and don't feel like spending $180, just because I might need to transcode once in a while.

The other problem is that there are alternatives in similar or even cheaper price range that have the Intel CPU and can do transcoding natively. I see Terramaster NAS on sale which is cheaper with similar or better specs (~$370). Getting this synology with the Shield Pro is $660. One can buy the $560 Terramaster NAS with 32GB RAM and much higher specs, and still save $100. Hardware reviews are really good, but software is crap and everyone recommends installing a third party OS like Unraid. Question is — is it better to go that route instead?

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Quote from jonebgood :
Over the past 10 years the prices of NAS enclosures seem like they've not really fluctuated. Why are they so expensive? Is there a software interface to make it easy to consume media stored (or do you have to also get Plex)? How do you justify the prices of these devices plus the cost of drives, and at what point does it make sense to use this vs converting an old desktop PC to something functionally similar?
It's like the Apple tax. People who like Apple like the software stability, ease of use and proven reliability and will pay extra for it.

Synology NAS is the same. The software is exceptional, stability is proven, and simply put it's just plain easy to use.

Sure it's not too difficult for someone to build something. But the time it takes to learn the software and configure it (proxmox, zfs, ovm etc) and find drives, HBA cards in IT mode and proper cables, well by that point someone would rather have the Synology NAS. You don't need much power for a NAS.
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ejwong
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Any good Prime deals for compatible 16 GB RAM for the DS224+ or is this the best option? https://a.co/d/0Zcxojs
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jonebgood
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Quote from DreamerbyDesign :
It's like the Apple tax. People who like Apple like the software stability, ease of use and proven reliability and will pay extra for it.

Synology NAS is the same. The software is exceptional, stability is proven, and simply put it's just plain easy to use.

Sure it's not too difficult for someone to build something. But the time it takes to learn the software and configure it (proxmox, zfs, ovm etc) and find drives, HBA cards in IT mode and proper cables, well by that point someone would rather have the Synology NAS. You don't need much power for a NAS.
And how about relative to cloud storage options like iCloud, Google One, Dropbox, etc? I love Google photos for example, the capabilities are great, it's easy to find things, etc. I'm not willing to pay a monthly fee indefinitely, but I do understand that cost wise there's an upfront outlay for a NAS that is rather significant and so obviously I need to commit to #x years to break even. And then do you run the drives as individual raid 0 drives only or are any running in raid 1 to duplicate?
Lastly, my mom uses external hard drives for her photography, would she be able to easily incorporate the content from them via the NAS or what would her best option be? She's in her 70s so the less I have to provide tech support the better lol
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utgotye
Jul 17, 2024
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Pulled the trigger on a DS224+. I'll drop the 20TB drives in it and set up an older system with Ubuntu or Debian for Docker stuff if it comes down to it. Wonder how hard it would be to set up an Xpenology VM in Proxmox....
Last edited by utgotye July 17, 2024 at 10:49 AM.
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CoolAppliance356
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Quote from DragonflyPunch :
I get what you are saying, but adding a $180 device to a $480 device, is 37.5% extra. That's not insignificant and cannot really be compared to adding a jet shower to a house; no jet shower costs almost 40% of the house. I asked earlier in this thread but didn't get a response. Is there a budget friendly option to add an external transcoding device, that can do native 4K transcoding reasonably well? I already had the Nvidia shield pro and sold it a few years ago. I don't need another streaming device, and don't feel like spending $180, just because I might need to transcode once in a while.

The other problem is that there are alternatives in similar or even cheaper price range that have the Intel CPU and can do transcoding natively. I see Terramaster NAS on sale which is cheaper with similar or better specs (~$370). Getting this synology with the Shield Pro is $660. One can buy the $560 Terramaster NAS with 32GB RAM and much higher specs, and still save $100. Hardware reviews are really good, but software is crap and everyone recommends installing a third party OS like Unraid. Question is — is it better to go that route instead?
I totally understand what you're saying and agree. My point I probably made poorly is there's some people that would be much better off with a 4 bay but are considering the 2 bay just because it transcodes. Furthermore you need Plex pass which is about $200 to transcode on the NAS but it's free on the shield. So the shield is essentially free if you plan to transcode
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trevortypes
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Quote from DreamerbyDesign :
It's like the Apple tax. People who like Apple like the software stability, ease of use and proven reliability and will pay extra for it.

Synology NAS is the same. The software is exceptional, stability is proven, and simply put it's just plain easy to use.

Sure it's not too difficult for someone to build something. But the time it takes to learn the software and configure it (proxmox, zfs, ovm etc) and find drives, HBA cards in IT mode and proper cables, well by that point someone would rather have the Synology NAS. You don't need much power for a NAS.

100% agree.

I'm in IT for a living and do enough configuration and troubleshooting for work; I don't want more of that at home and am willing to pay more for reliability/simplicity/easy management.

The DS923+ has served me well for a year (purchased at the same price).

For performance, I also am happy to run PMS on its own miniPC. I have another proxmox instance with various virtual machines/LXCs such as home assistant and the arrs stack. I've probably devoted hundreds of hours in my home assistant setup alone.

Extremely meaningful are the backup/migration solutions available for the technology. If it craps out and needs to be replaced and/or upgraded, what are your options? What's your downtime?

Unless you're really hurting for cash, a Synology NAS is a great option.
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FreshPrinceSumNLips
Jul 17, 2024
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New to Synology and want to understand the warranty parameters. Lets clarify by example.. I put a non approved HDD iin the NAS. Does it mean Synology wont support the entire NAS or just the HDD aspect of it?

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Quote from rattlingabhi :
From mackdack that I always use for reference :

DS224+ (also 920+, 423+, 220+, 720+, 1520+) supports 4k transcoding with inbuilt GPU (rest Synology does not or very incapable). Adding RAM also help in overall performance. DS224+ is Value buy for first time Plex users (add more RAM to make it 6GB . RAMs are very inexpensive )

QNAP TS-464 has everything you need for Plex but little expensive.

FYI: 4k transcoding is mostly needed when you want to play your Plex content on mobile/ipad (assuming you have plex pass). On home TV, you rarely need 4k transcoding.

For non-Plex users , most of the NAS are fine.
What about 918+?

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