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Leno returned to 11:30pm time slot

1,581 129 January 7, 2010 at 03:37 PM in TV (3)
NBC Shakeup -- Jay Leno Comes Out on Top [tmz.com]

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We've learned Jay's 10:00 PM show will go on hiatus February 1. After the Olympics, Jay will take back his 11:30 PM time slot. What has not been decided -- whether Jay's show will be a half hour, followed by Conan, or whether Jay's show will be an hour and NBC says sayonara to Mr. O'Brien.

We're told Jay and Conan have both been told of the changes. As for Jay, interestingly, he'll get what he always wanted -- his 11:30 PM time slot.
No words on what will happen to Conan and Fallon... whether they both will get pushed back one hour of if one of them will be fired.

I prefer Leno at 11:30 than 10:00.

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shhaggy
01-19-2010 at 11:44 AM.
01-19-2010 at 11:44 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
Where and when did he negotiated a new contract?

This is the only evidence I have heard that he "negotiated". He was told he was moving back to 11:30


Jay Leno was forced into retirement by NBC (which wanted to keep Conan). Jay Leno accept it gracefully because he didn't want to repeat what happened with David Letterman.

They are still in the same company so your scenario was flawed. You moved to another job position but the person who replaced you isn't performing. Your boss wants you back to your old position. Your job contract dictate that you have to remain with the company. What do you do?

Jay Leno was basically forced into the corner by NBC contract.

Leno and NBC Strike 1 Hour 'Tonight' Deal

Posted Jan 14th 2010 8:43PM by TMZ Staff

Jay Leno has made a new deal with NBC, which gives him "The Tonight Show" from 11:35 - 12:35 ... sources tell TMZ.

As we first reported, under the contract Jay had been working under, he was guaranteed the 10 PM hour. By moving him to 11:35, NBC was in breach of his contract and needed to negotiate a new deal. That is now done, sources tell TMZ.

So Conan O'Brien is out, and Jay is restored.

http://www.tmz.com/tag/TonightShow/
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appleyum
01-19-2010 at 11:48 AM.
01-19-2010 at 11:48 AM.
Quote from azianai :
DUDE AGAIN READ
they work under the same company
if your boss came and said "hey we're gonna outsource your position, but you can go back to your previous administrator position, you want in?"
and you asked the question "Whats that do to bob who has it now" and they said "Dont worry he'll just get shuffled into another department position" would you say no?
Would you rather be fired and jobless? or go back to your old job
Actually he couldn't be fired / jobless. That's one of his dilemma. He wants to get out but he can't
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shhaggy
01-19-2010 at 11:56 AM.
01-19-2010 at 11:56 AM.
Quote from azianai :
DUDE AGAIN READ
they work under the same company
if your boss came and said "hey we're gonna outsource your position, but you can go back to your previous administrator position, you want in?"
and you asked the question "Whats that do to bob who has it now" and they said "Dont worry he'll just get shuffled into another department position" would you say no?
Would you rather be fired and jobless? or go back to your old job
What part of Jay Leno has a contract for 10pm do you not understand? If they take him off the air, they still have to pay him. If they move him, they breach the contract. Jay Leno was not fired and broke, he was going to be PAID as per the stipulations on his contract! And when his contract is up, he gets to go wherever he wants!

Ask me I'd rather be paid for doing nothing until my contract is up or backstabbing my successor that waited patiently for his promotion when he could've gone to a competitor 6 years ago, and the answer is EASY.
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Kolto
01-19-2010 at 12:23 PM.
01-19-2010 at 12:23 PM.
Quote from shhaggy :
What part of Jay Leno has a contract for 10pm do you not understand? If they take him off the air, they still have to pay him. If they move him, they breach the contract. Jay Leno was not fired and broke, he was going to be PAID as per the stipulations on his contract! And when his contract is up, he gets to go wherever he wants!

Ask me I'd rather be paid for doing nothing until my contract is up or backstabbing my successor that waited patiently for his promotion when he could've gone to a competitor 6 years ago, and the answer is EASY.
Shhaggy, this is similar to the BS that happens in sports all the time and is probably the best example:
If a coach gets fired, they get paid the rest of their guarantee contract.
However if they wish to work for another team, the contract is nulled and their new contract overrides it or offsets to it.
Leno's situation is like when a player asks for a release from a team, but doesn't get it. Similar to what's happening with T-Mac right now.

With Leno, what you're saying is basically even though he still has the ability to carry a show and is still considered in his prime, he should be cockblocked basically from doing any further job and just go home and collect his paycheck? Doing nothing everyday gets boring really fast.
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01-19-2010 at 12:37 PM.
01-19-2010 at 12:37 PM.
Quote from azianai :
Shhaggy, this is similar to the BS that happens in sports all the time and is probably the best example:
If a coach gets fired, they get paid the rest of their guarantee contract.
However if they wish to work for another team, the contract is nulled and their new contract overrides it or offsets to it.
Leno's situation is like when a player asks for a release from a team, but doesn't get it. Similar to what's happening with T-Mac right now.

With Leno, what you're saying is basically even though he still has the ability to carry a show and is still considered in his prime, he should be cockblocked basically from doing any further job and just go home and collect his paycheck? Doing nothing everyday gets boring really fast.
Yes but this is the deal that he agreed to 6 years ago. If he didn't want it 6 years ago, he shouldn't have accepted it 6 years ago. It's not like the T-Mac situation because T-Mac didn't agree to be sent to the sideline with time left on his contract, he expected to play.
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shhaggy
01-19-2010 at 12:51 PM.
01-19-2010 at 12:51 PM.
TMZ reports that Fox just registered the internet domain conanonfox.com
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01-19-2010 at 12:58 PM.
01-19-2010 at 12:58 PM.
Quote from azianai :
Shhaggy, this is similar to the BS that happens in sports all the time and is probably the best example:
. . .

With Leno, what you're saying is basically even though he still has the ability to carry a show and is still considered in his prime, he should be cockblocked basically from doing any further job and just go home and collect his paycheck? Doing nothing everyday gets boring really fast.
Your premise that Leno can carry a show is completely wrong, and he's proved it for the past 17 years by appealing to nobody but humor-free morons.

What part of comedy-is-nothing-like-sports and Leno-will-ruin-the-Tonight-Show-for-a-second-time don't you understand?
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01-19-2010 at 01:09 PM.
01-19-2010 at 01:09 PM.
Quote from larrymoencurly :
Your premise that Leno can carry a show is completely wrong, and he's proved it for the past 17 years by appealing to nobody but humor-free morons.

What part of comedy-is-nothing-like-sports and Leno-will-ruin-the-Tonight-Show-for-a-second-time don't you understand?
what part of your opinion means absolutely shit to me do you not understand?

So if leno's 11:35 tonight show goes back to #1 within the next year or so, does that mean we don't hear from you on the podium/tech support/lounge/slickdeals in general ever again as you'll be wrong YET AGAIN like majority of your posts?
I love idiots who deal in absolute claims when its impossible to determine this.
Only makes you look foolish. Just like your little Crucial Memory debacle last week

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Yes but this is the deal that he agreed to 6 years ago. If he didn't want it 6 years ago, he shouldn't have accepted it 6 years ago. It's not like the T-Mac situation because T-Mac didn't agree to be sent to the sideline with time left on his contract, he expected to play.
He wanted his outright release 6 years ago after the agreement happened to move on from the tonight show, nbc wouldn't let him. so its similar to Tmac's shit now.
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01-19-2010 at 01:18 PM.
01-19-2010 at 01:18 PM.
Quote from azianai :
what part of your opinion means absolutely shit to me do you not understand?

So if leno's 11:35 tonight show goes back to #1 within the next year or so, does that mean we don't hear from you on the podium/tech support/lounge/slickdeals in general ever again as you'll be wrong YET AGAIN like majority of your posts?
I love idiots who deal in absolute claims when its impossible to determine this.
Only makes you look foolish. Just like your little Crucial Memory debacle last week


He wanted his outright release 6 years ago after the agreement happened to move on from the tonight show, nbc wouldn't let him. so its similar to Tmac's shit now.
He did? According to whom? Because 6 years ago he said on the air on the Tonight Show that he agreed to retire in 6 years, that 17 years was long enough, and that only Johnny Carson could sustain success on this show into his 60s. So was he lying then? Is he lying now? Or was he lying both times? Any way you spin it, he's a liar. I'd be moderately surprised if he had 7 years left on his contract 6 years ago, chances are he signed a new contract in the interim, making this still his fault.

edit: According to USA Today, Leno's contract signed in 2004 lasted through 2009. That means if he was under contract beyond December of last year, it's because of the NEW contract that he signed for the 10pm show.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/tele...nded_x.htm
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01-19-2010 at 01:21 PM.
01-19-2010 at 01:21 PM.
Quote from shhaggy :
He did? According to whom? Because 6 years ago he said on the air on the Tonight Show that he agreed to retire in 6 years, that 17 years was long enough, and that only Johnny Carson could sustain success on this show into his 60s. So was he lying then? Is he lying now? Or was he lying both times? Any way you spin it, he's a liar. I'd be moderately surprised if he had 7 years left on his contract 6 years ago, chances are he signed a new contract in the interim, making this still his fault.

edit: According to USA Today, Leno's contract signed in 2004 lasted through 2009. That means if he was under contract beyond December of last year, it's because of the NEW contract that he signed for the 10pm show.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/tele...nded_x.htm
Ok leno's a douche (just to satisfy you)
however, he doesn't decide who does what on NBC.
NBC Executives have to make that decision, he also does NOT dictate that Conan can't stay on the Tonight Show.
You're giving Leno WAY too much power. Leno wants to keep working, you can't fault someone who wants to keep working. ITs not like leno owns NBC and decides the stipulation, the way you're acting all the blame is on Leno and 0 is on NBC Executives WHO ARE THE ONES WHO BLOTCHED THIS BS in the 1st place
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shhaggy
01-19-2010 at 02:46 PM.
01-19-2010 at 02:46 PM.
No, NBC holds a hefty share of the blame here too. But they couldn't do what they wanted to do here without Leno being fully willing to backstab Conan.
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01-19-2010 at 02:54 PM.
01-19-2010 at 02:54 PM.
Quote from larrymoencurly :
Your premise that Leno can carry a show is completely wrong, and he's proved it for the past 17 years by appealing to nobody but humor-free morons.

What part of comedy-is-nothing-like-sports and Leno-will-ruin-the-Tonight-Show-for-a-second-time don't you understand?
Quote from azianai :
what part of your opinion means absolutely shit to me do you not understand?
If it meant nothing to you, you wouldn't have responded. laugh out loud
Quote from azianai :
So if leno's 11:35 tonight show goes back to #1 within the next year or so, does that mean we don't hear from you on the podium/tech support/lounge/slickdeals in general ever again as you'll be wrong YET AGAIN like majority of your posts?
Sure, if it's #1 in quality, which it's never been and never will be as long as Leno is the host. Even Johnny thought little of Leno's hosting abilities.
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I love idiots who deal in absolute claims when its impossible to determine this.
Only makes you look foolish. Just like your little Crucial Memory debacle last week
The "debacle" about the kind of RAM I recommended, where you failed to any provide proof, as I had requested, until you finally pointed out defective Crucial single-sided Ballistix. But that memory violated 2 of my 3 old rules of thumb: never buy RAM with 1) heatsinks on it, 2) no-name chips, or 3) a higher than normal voltage requirement. You were instead more interested in hurling personal insults, which are OK for a thread about Leno vs. Conan but ridiculous for a technical discussion. Classy, Azianai.
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01-19-2010 at 03:00 PM.
01-19-2010 at 03:00 PM.
It'll be interesting to see what time he goes on when he gets to FOX. The 11:35 time was meant to allow local news to air, will FOX move their local news and fill 5 more hours a week with original content starting next season? That could mean some fresh new shows (or it could mean 40 week seasons of shows like 24 with all the reruns that usually come with it) Will they air him at 11pm? (might be best option). Will they put him at 11:35 with a sitcom or something first? (nightmare lead-in, hour-long local news plus rerun).
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01-19-2010 at 03:03 PM.
01-19-2010 at 03:03 PM.
Quote from larrymoencurly :
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you make many good points there

Quote from shhaggy :
It'll be interesting to see what time he goes on when he gets to FOX. The 11:35 time was meant to allow local news to air, will FOX move their local news and fill 5 more hours a week with original content starting next season? That could mean some fresh new shows (or it could mean 40 week seasons of shows like 24 with all the reruns that usually come with it) Will they air him at 11pm? (might be best option). Will they put him at 11:35 with a sitcom or something first? (nightmare lead-in, hour-long local news plus rerun).
local affiliates own the timeslots after 10pm. They'll have to come up with some agreement to restructure their news timeslot and/or come up with a way for the advertising during the proposed-Conan's show.
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01-19-2010 at 03:28 PM.
01-19-2010 at 03:28 PM.
Quote from Nihilariat :
you make many good points there

local affiliates own the timeslots after 10pm. They'll have to come up with some agreement to restructure their news timeslot and/or come up with a way for the advertising during the proposed-Conan's show.
I think affiliates will ultimately fall in line and air Conan wherever the network wants him aired, and follow suit with the rest of the programming as well.
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