forum thread Posted by Bruinnn | Staff • Dec 21, 2024
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forum thread Posted by Bruinnn | Staff • Dec 21, 2024
Dec 21, 2024 3:31 AM
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That said, this guy's comments don't seem to be that far "out there."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVI02UT
If there is a safety issue out there and it is real, cite some evidence to either support or refute the contention. At the least, change your modem login user name (if possible) and, at the least, your password. Simple solution, at least per the video and more productive than accusing conspiracy theory..
Calling it conspiracy theory IF it IS real does more to "junk up" the thread and could lead to bad outcomes - IF real.
More productive, in my opinion, would be discussion the suspected problem, any potential untoward results, and the details/results of any proposed ban.
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That said, this guy's comments don't seem to be that far "out there."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVI02UT
If there is a safety issue out there and it is real, cite some evidence to either support or refute the contention. At the least, change your modem login user name (if possible) and, at the least, your password. Simple solution, at least per the video and more productive than accusing conspiracy theory..
Calling it conspiracy theory IF it IS real does more to "junk up" the thread and could lead to bad outcomes - IF real.
More productive, in my opinion, would be discussion the suspected problem, any potential untoward results, and the details/results of any proposed ban.
Looking back in the thread, I don't think I was the first one to bring up conspiracy theory (theorists) or rumors - and I still stand by changing a default (out of the box) password - for any device - regardless of brand.
IF there are legitimate safety concerns, do you suggest that we don't bring them up here? IF there are legitimate concerns, shouldn't that be calculated into the overall value of the deal?
Yes, you're correct, we should stick to discussing the deal -- all of us/all aspects of it -- and yet, here we are.
For now, all I have is what's in the popular press - do you have something better?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lars...heres-why/
https://arstechnica.com/tech-poli...-to-china/
https://www.tomshardwar
https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-con...y-concerns
https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/bus...rs-report/
https://www.techradar.c
https://www.theregister
Looking back in the thread, I don't think I was the first one to bring up conspiracy theory (theorists) or rumors - and I still stand by changing a default (out of the box) password - for any device - regardless of brand.
IF there are legitimate safety concerns, do you suggest that we don't bring them up here? IF there are legitimate concerns, shouldn't that be calculated into the overall value of the deal?
Yes, you're correct, we should stick to discussing the deal -- all of us/all aspects of it -- and yet, here we are.
For now, all I have is what's in the popular press - do you have something better?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lars...heres-why/ [forbes.com]
https://arstechnica.com/tech-poli...-to-china/ [arstechnica.com]
https://www.tomshardware.com/netw...berattacks [tomshardware.com]
https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-con...y-concerns [pcmag.com]
https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/bus...rs-report/ [nypost.com]
https://www.techradar.com/pro/sec...be-blocked [techradar.com]
https://www.theregister.com/2024/...k_routers/ [theregister.com]
Practically every router ever shipped has had vulnerabilities at one point or another. So does Windows. So does macOS. So do lots of gadgets. Maybe the investigation will show some form of spying baked in, who knows. Could they be fixed with patches? Who knows. I'll wait for the facts before I dump my tp-link gear.
This only supports 5g and the other supports 6g?
https://slickdeals.net/f/18011664-tp-link-be3600-wi-fi-7-dual-band-next-generation-ai-driven-home-mesh-router-system-199
Practically every router ever shipped has had vulnerabilities at one point or another. So does Windows. So does macOS. So do lots of gadgets. Maybe the investigation will show some form of spying baked in, who knows. Could they be fixed with patches? Who knows. I'll wait for the facts before I dump my tp-link gear.
I've got a bunch of TP-Link powerline interfaces in a box as a backup for my mesh. I've also got a router as a backup. (I've moved to Gl.inet because they are so flexible.) I'm not giving up any of them. I may even use the powerline boxes to make a local network that is not connected to the internet. Seems a waste not to use them.
I'm looking at setting up either a Plex or Jellyfin server which, if used outside my house, will have additional ports open to "the outside." Not sure, yet, that I want the extra visibility. In the end, its all about balancing the risks vs benefits.
From the YouTube guy that I linked to, it seems that from what he's found, the exploit was common to TPLink routers but the common factor seems that the compromised routers all had the default (out of the box) username and password. The end users never changed them. I think the brand would be a logical target based on market share, alone. If they all have the same username and password out of the box ..... If that is the case, the vulnerability lies with users who are either to uninformed or too lazy to change a password. My thought? →→ Its those end users who set left the front door open and subject to attack in the first place. That is clearly not the fault of the company.
My hope is that Congress or whoever is considering a ban will consult people with enough expertise to help them understand the technology as well as the nature of the attack. If it was as simple as default passwords, banning the product is not going to fix it.
" Every tp-link deal has lots of posts basically inferring tp-link will be banned in the US and not to buy. Personally, I have not seen any actual findings from the investigation...has anyone?"
I haven't, either. I think all of those posts are likely one notch up from the folks who did not change their passwords - maybe even the same people. For all I know, some of the stories floated may be coming from the competition - how am I to know?
On the deals where I've commented, I've been sticking to commenting that we should change user names and passwords. Seems like common sense, to me.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
― Philip K. Dick,
I've got a bunch of TP-Link powerline interfaces in a box as a backup for my mesh. I've also got a router as a backup. (I've moved to Gl.inet because they are so flexible.) I'm not giving up any of them. I may even use the powerline boxes to make a local network that is not connected to the internet. Seems a waste not to use them.
I'm looking at setting up either a Plex or Jellyfin server which, if used outside my house, will have additional ports open to "the outside." Not sure, yet, that I want the extra visibility. In the end, its all about balancing the risks vs benefits.
From the YouTube guy that I linked to, it seems that from what he's found, the exploit was common to TPLink routers but the common factor seems that the compromised routers all had the default (out of the box) username and password. The end users never changed them. I think the brand would be a logical target based on market share, alone. If they all have the same username and password out of the box ..... If that is the case, the vulnerability lies with users who are either to uninformed or too lazy to change a password. My thought? →→ Its those end users who set left the front door open and subject to attack in the first place. That is clearly not the fault of the company.
My hope is that Congress or whoever is considering a ban will consult people with enough expertise to help them understand the technology as well as the nature of the attack. If it was as simple as default passwords, banning the product is not going to fix it.
" Every tp-link deal has lots of posts basically inferring tp-link will be banned in the US and not to buy. Personally, I have not seen any actual findings from the investigation...has anyone?"
I haven't, either. I think all of those posts are likely one notch up from the folks who did not change their passwords - maybe even the same people. For all I know, some of the stories floated may be coming from the competition - how am I to know?
On the deals where I've commented, I've been sticking to commenting that we should change user names and passwords. Seems like common sense, to me.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
― Philip K. Dick,
It will be interesting if default passwords is all this is about -- lots of YT'ers and media people foretelling the demise of TP-LINK in the US are going to be eating a few plates of crow (oh, wait, I forgot -- people don't admit they're wrong anymore...just put out a word salad video or article and brush it under the rug).
Anyways, I guess we shall see...
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It will be interesting if default passwords is all this is about -- lots of YT'ers and media people foretelling the demise of TP-LINK in the US are going to be eating a few plates of crow (oh, wait, I forgot -- people don't admit they're wrong anymore...just put out a word salad video or article and brush it under the rug).
Anyways, I guess we shall see...
Most likely much ado about nothing and the story simply disappears.