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frontpage Posted by phoinix | Staff • 6d ago
Jun 16, 2025 7:45 AM
Apple Mac Mini (2024): M4 10-Core CPU / GPU, 24GB Memory, 512GB SSD
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Apple has a direct history of not only having less ram in products but having apps run smoother and their SoCs benchmark BETTER than many of the QCA chip stacks they go up against all while being more power efficient.
having memory on die probably changes a lot of performance parameters and acts like a very high speed cache. You should compare benchmarks instead of focusing solely on specs. Because the specs don't compare how you think they do,
An upcharge of $400 for an additional 8GB RAM and a 256GB larger SSD doesn't feel slick. But if you need the extra RAM then this is the only option as I've read the RAM is integrated directly into the Apple M4 chip and soldered to the logic board.
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Apple has a direct history of not only having less ram in products but having apps run smoother and their SoCs benchmark BETTER than many of the QCA chip stacks they go up against all while being more power efficient.
having memory on die probably changes a lot of performance parameters and acts like a very high speed cache. You should compare benchmarks instead of focusing solely on specs. Because the specs don't compare how you think they do,
I mean sure their SoC RAM is faster than most and maybe you're implying the soldered in e-waste 256GB SSD is just as performant as RAM? Sure, not really about performance but about price to volume ratio of RAM/SSD or lackthereof and massively overcharging for upgrades to base models of which the RAM/SSD specific performance doesn't justify the upgrade cost in any configuration IMO. I don't know why one would want their SSD consumed with MacOS's sloppy unlimited swapping when you can just have more RAM and use the SSD for what it's intended for, larger extremely fast storage not to supplement RAM when the OS bleeds it dry and still creates problematic memory pressure.
It's less about the performance and more about proper resource usage and all this highly depends on someone's use case(s). I'm a power user so these base specs are laughable and designed to push refresh cycles and force people to buy new Macs every few years instead of easily upgrading the RAM or SSD. I'm a big fan of the MacMini and Studio hardware despite the unfortunate planned obsolescence when one out grows their device.
Or is Apple smart because customers reluctantly pay $$$$ for such a modest ram upgrade and tiny 256GB SSD?
It's less about the performance and more about proper resource usage and all this highly depends on someone's use case(s). I'm a power user so these base specs are laughable and designed to push refresh cycles and force people to buy new Macs every few years instead of easily upgrading the RAM or SSD. I'm a big fan of the MacMini and Studio hardware despite the unfortunate planned obsolescence when one out grows their device.
No. And also no. The SSD is not soldered in. You can upgrade it on your own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftDzR_B
> larger extremely fast storage not to supplement RAM when the OS bleeds it dry
Right - so you can deploy your own 2TB drive into it for half the cost. Any good modern OS will utilize all the ram available. If there is no app caching to be done there is plenty of filesystem caching. That's a feature not a bug.
> It's less about the performance and more about proper resource usage
By what benchmark are you determining that they are not getting proper resource usage? This seems like pure conjecture.
> I'm a power user so these base specs are laughable
What apps and workflows are you using that this would not work for? I wouldn't say this is one size fits all, but you'll have to compare to other systems at the appropriate price point
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Doesn't self-upgrading the SSD also trigger a persistent notification from the OS that it's not a genuine Apple drive? I thought I'd read that a couple years back.
This is still the best mini pc for around $500 9.5/10. You can't have anything perfect.
Choose two and a half.
1- ultra fast chip , energy efficient
2- ultra fast, cheap RAM
3-ultra fast , cheap 2tb SSD Gen4
> and you're contradicting yourself arguing it's upgradable but implying it's sufficient.
I implied that the CPU/RAM is sufficient for the price point, and highlighted that you were wrong about the SSD being soldered on. That's not contradictory, you interpreted it incorrectly.
I noticed you didn't link any benchmarks or workflows to back your claims about how this platform is just insufficient for a power user. Are you abandoning that claim?
It does not. I did it and it is detected as apple 2TB SSD. The drive is just flash controllers and other stuff is on the CPU.
Or the 24gb with 512ssd
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