$139.5: DEWALT 20V MAX Cordless Brushless 4.5 - 5 in. Paddle Switch Angle Grinder with FLEXVOLT ADVANTAGE (Tool Only) at HomeDepot, Free Pickup/Delivery.
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- Up to 54% more power** when paired with FLEXVOLT batteries
- Kickback Brake engages with maximum force to quickly stop the wheel and shut off the grinder when a bind-up occurs
- E-CLUTCH shuts down the motor in under a tenth of a second when a pinch/stall is detected
- Compatible with all DEWALT 20V MAX* and FLEXVOLT Batteries
- E-Switch Protection requires the trigger switch to be cycled (turned off and on) in the event of a power outage or other unexpected shutdowns to restart
- Tool Connect Chip Ready: Chip pocket accepts Tool Connect Chip DCE042 and connects with Tool Connect Site Manager app for easy asset management on the jobsite. (DCE042 sold separately)
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The current equivalent is the DCG410b which has slightly more power than this one but nothing major. This is a good grinder for the price. Nearly double the power of most other 20V models.
Ones sold at lowes around the same time called it "Power Detect". Everything now just falls under plain "Flexvolt". I believe all current 20V tools will accept Flexvolt 20/60v batteries, even if the tool doesn't mention flexvolt. I think they're trying to have flexvolt refer to the battery only and have all tools be able to work with it, since the old stuff was very confusing.
Worth noting this same model is available for the same price on amazon with 5% Chase Freedom cash back if people have that card. However it is a 3rd party seller (with good reviews).
The current equivalent is the DCG410b which has slightly more power than this one but nothing major. This is a good grinder for the price. Nearly double the power of most other 20V models.
Ones sold at lowes around the same time called it "Power Detect". Everything now just falls under plain "Flexvolt". I believe all current 20V tools will accept Flexvolt 20/60v batteries, even if the tool doesn't mention flexvolt. I think they're trying to have flexvolt refer to the battery only and have all tools be able to work with it, since the old stuff was very confusing.
Worth noting this same model is available for the same price on amazon with 5% Chase Freedom cash back if people have that card. However it is a 3rd party seller (with good reviews).
Flexvolt branded tools are 60v tools only, as marked on the tools. They don't accept 20v batteries. Flexvolt advantage tools were 20v tools with confusing marketing. They could not run at 60v. The dcg410 and dcg416 are effectively the same grinder with different decals. The 410 is only rated a tiny bit more powerful because they use a more powerful battery for that rating than they used to rate the 416. I have both grinders, can't tell any difference.
Flexvolt batteries work on all 60v or 20v tools because they switch voltage. They don't make 20v tools run on higher voltage than any 20v battery.
Using any high output battery can improve a high demand 20v tools performance, whether it's powerpack, powerstack or flexvolt. In reality the low output batteries are reducing high demand tool performance.
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Flexvolt batteries work on all 60v or 20v tools because they switch voltage. They don't make 20v tools run on higher voltage than any 20v battery.
Correct that no 60v "only" tool accepts a 20v battery, they never have and never will. However any currently produced 20v tool will accept a flexvolt 20/60 battery. That was not always the case.
A 60V battery will run the 20V tool at a higher voltage, in fact that's the only way to get the rated output of a 20V tool. You need to realize that the "max" is very important. A 20V max battery is just an 18v battery - it is at 20V right when you take it off the charger and basically never again until you put it back on the charger. The 60V battery when running in 20V mode is putting out 20V and also has much less voltage sag under load since it has plenty of reserve behind it.
If you ignore store pages (which haven't been updated) and look at Dewalt's site, you'll see "Flexvolt" has been removed from everything except the batteries. The tools are using "20V Max" and "60V Max" only. The higher output versions have "XR" but that's always been the case.
The 410 and 416 were made years apart, so to expect no other differences than the sticker is not realistic, though in reality they are basically the same. Newer is not always better, especially with the tariff battle that went on, the 410 could actually be a less robust tool.
I wish they would make a high output (1500 ish watt) flat head. That model is really intriguing especially with the tool-free guard adjustment/removal, but it is only 850 watt.
Correct that no 60v "only" tool accepts a 20v battery, they never have and never will. However any currently produced 20v tool will accept a flexvolt 20/60 battery. That was not always the case.
A 60V battery will run the 20V tool at a higher voltage, in fact that's the only way to get the rated output of a 20V tool. You need to realize that the "max" is very important. A 20V max battery is just an 18v battery - it is at 20V right when you take it off the charger and basically never again until you put it back on the charger. The 60V battery when running in 20V mode is putting out 20V and also has much less voltage sag under load since it has plenty of reserve behind it.
If you ignore store pages (which haven't been updated) and look at Dewalt's site, you'll see "Flexvolt" has been removed from everything except the batteries. The tools are using "20V Max" and "60V Max" only. The higher output versions have "XR" but that's always been the case.
The 410 and 416 were made years apart, so to expect no other differences than the sticker is not realistic, though in reality they are basically the same. Newer is not always better, especially with the tariff battle that went on, the 410 could actually be a less robust tool.
I wish they would make a high output (1500 ish watt) flat head. That model is really intriguing especially with the tool-free guard adjustment/removal, but it is only 850 watt.
Flexvolt batteries output 18v/54v. Yes, they have less voltage sag than a small 20v battery, but so do performance 20v batteries, like the 8ah powerpack battery. It works just as well as a 9ah flexvolt and better than a 12ah Flexvolt.
I did see that they have dropped the flexvolt marketing for the tools. Making 60v prominent on the tool is a much better idea.
The dcg410 uses the exact same motor and rotor assembly as the dcg416. So when I say it's the same tool with different decals, I'm not exaggerating. I wish they'd update the flathead too. The dcg410 housing and motor assembly will fit the flathead, but the rotor is special on the flathead.
I did see that they have dropped the flexvolt marketing for the tools. Making 60v prominent on the tool is a much better idea.
The dcg410 uses the exact same motor and rotor assembly as the dcg416. So when I say it's the same tool with different decals, I'm not exaggerating. I wish they'd update the flathead too. The dcg410 housing and motor assembly will fit the flathead, but the rotor is special on the flathead.
Back in the advantage days I'm pretty sure the flexvolt batteries were more like 20v/54v (and sustained 20v, not just a few seconds). Whether that was totally accurate or is still true, not positive.
I have not torn apart the two grinders but there are some minor visible differences. I'm not willing to assume they haven't swapped in a cheaper worm gear or something, but it is very possible that everything is identical. But considering the price difference, the 416 is the way to go regardless. Heck if they go on clearance (which is probably where we're headed) I might grab a second one.
I did almost grab the $230 deal with the 410, 8ah battery, and 8A charger, but I really don't need another battery and charger and selling them would have resulted in about the same deal as this.
At least they seem to be moving to eliminate all the confusion finally. The flexvolt feature is the battery only, and that's how it always should have been marketed, especially since they have "XR" to denote the more powerful tools and non flexvolt batteries.
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