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I feel a bit :stressed: and
You need 3 or 4 things -- joint compound, sandpaper -- I actually like a sanding sponge and that's all I use, spatula - about a 6" will do fine for most small stuff, and maybe tape. If you are fixing big stuff you might want a taping knife -- a bigger, flatter spatula sort of thing.
If the holes are fairly small, scoop the mud up on your spatula, smoosh it across the hole, let it dry, sand it lightly -- don't try to shove it in the hole, do it again if it isn't filled. That'll do it for little ones of ... ohhhh, less than an inch in diameter.
Any larger than that you will probably need to put a small piece of drywall tape over the hole -- you can use paper or fiberglass. Thin swipe on the wall, then stick the tape over it. As you build your mud over it you need to take a little bigger swipe around/across it and build the compound up just a little. It will take more than one coat.
Don't worry about putting too much on the wall. You don't want to and that comes with practice, but the only problem it will cause is that you will have to sand more off -- making more work and more dust. But it isn't going to hurt anything.
In large areas where I really have to build out, I always have at least one ridge I have to sand down. You can keep going over it and over trying to get it all nice and smooth but what happens is you usually end up making section nicer and screwing up another -- but I'm talking about pretty big areas.
Now, if you are fill big holes -- say 2 or more inches in diameter, plan out mudding and working an area at least 8 inches in diameter. Little bitty holes, just fill 'em. Bigger boo boos you have to mud out further to blend it into the wall. For a crack that has to be taped -- I mudded out about 8 inches in each direction and that much top and bottom to blend it into the wall and make it disappear.
Keep you mud CLEAN. Put it in something to work out of. We have a hawk and mud pan but you can use a Rubbermaid container or something like that. Anything big enough to put your spatula in and scrape it off on. If you are doing much of it, a plastic mud pan is only $4.50 at Menards and is handy as heck.
Only take a little out of the bucket at time and NEVER, EVER, EVER put mud back in the bucket. If you have some left, throw it away. Make sure your area is clean or you will drag dirt or dust right back into the wet mud and ruin it.
We always have a big bucket, but I see that Menards has a 1 quart and a 12 lb. tub. After you are done, take a clean, wet sponge and wipe down the inside sides of the bucket all the way down to where the compound is. Lay a clean piece of plastic wrap right on top of it, just gently lay it in there, then seal the bucket. If you get a little water from your sponge in it it won't hurt anything. If you accidentally create a little puddle, just let your sponge suck it back up. But the sides have to be CLEAN. Otherwise, any mud that is on them will harden and crumble off into the good mud and now it isn't good anymore, you might as well throw it away.
You need 3 or 4 things -- joint compound, sandpaper -- I actually like a sanding sponge and that's all I use, spatula - about a 6" will do fine for most small stuff, and maybe tape. If you are fixing big stuff you might want a taping knife -- a bigger, flatter spatula sort of thing.
If the holes are fairly small, scoop the mud up on your spatula, smoosh it across the hole, let it dry, sand it lightly -- don't try to shove it in the hole, do it again if it isn't filled. That'll do it for little ones of ... ohhhh, less than an inch in diameter.
Any larger than that you will probably need to put a small piece of drywall tape over the hole -- you can use paper or fiberglass. Thin swipe on the wall, then stick the tape over it. As you build your mud over it you need to take a little bigger swipe around/across it and build the compound up just a little. It will take more than one coat.
Don't worry about putting too much on the wall. You don't want to and that comes with practice, but the only problem it will cause is that you will have to sand more off -- making more work and more dust. But it isn't going to hurt anything.
In large areas where I really have to build out, I always have at least one ridge I have to sand down. You can keep going over it and over trying to get it all nice and smooth but what happens is you usually end up making section nicer and screwing up another -- but I'm talking about pretty big areas.
Now, if you are fill big holes -- say 2 or more inches in diameter, plan out mudding and working an area at least 8 inches in diameter. Little bitty holes, just fill 'em. Bigger boo boos you have to mud out further to blend it into the wall. For a crack that has to be taped -- I mudded out about 8 inches in each direction and that much top and bottom to blend it into the wall and make it disappear.
Keep you mud CLEAN. Put it in something to work out of. We have a hawk and mud pan but you can use a Rubbermaid container or something like that. Anything big enough to put your spatula in and scrape it off on. If you are doing much of it, a plastic mud pan is only $4.50 at Menards and is handy as heck.
Only take a little out of the bucket at time and NEVER, EVER, EVER put mud back in the bucket. If you have some left, throw it away. Make sure your area is clean or you will drag dirt or dust right back into the wet mud and ruin it.
We always have a big bucket, but I see that Menards has a 1 quart and a 12 lb. tub. After you are done, take a clean, wet sponge and wipe down the inside sides of the bucket all the way down to where the compound is. Lay a clean piece of plastic wrap right on top of it, just gently lay it in there, then seal the bucket. If you get a little water from your sponge in it it won't hurt anything. If you accidentally create a little puddle, just let your sponge suck it back up. But the sides have to be CLEAN. Otherwise, any mud that is on them will harden and crumble off into the good mud and now it isn't good anymore, you might as well throw it away.
great tips!
i'll add just one more:
if you have an old house, make sure that underneath your current layers of paint there aren't layers of lead paint.
if there are, then you want to try to be as precise as possible with spreading on the spackling/filler/mud/compound, because you really don't want to be a lot of sanding around it.
if you do have lead paint underneath and you have made a boo-boo ridge of spackling
and wear a respirator mask. you DO NOT want to inhale lead dust.
I have the piece they cut out of it that fits exactly. I've read some tutorials online on how to use that piece to repair it and I think I may go that route first. I just don't know that I (or anyone else for that matter) am going to REALLY be able to get it to look like there was never a hole there after all is said and done and it's repainted and everything
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I guess I (and GT) spent time planning for nuttin...
Hope everyone is doing well! It's been a while since I've posted in here...been busy with the kids etc. I find out whether or not I passed the Bar next week. I have been having nightmares about it for the last couple of weeks.
I feel a bit :stressed: and
I keep meaning to ask you if you went by a book, are working directly with a doctor, or just happened to find some good websites. I'm thinking that from what I know of the feingold diet that it may be a good thing for my 4 y.o. to go on.
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I won THIS [acousticsounddesign-amazon.com]
Now I have to figure out what I will have to pay in taxes on it....
Am not sure I want to set it up where my son can surround me with sound though....
I won THIS [acousticsounddesign-amazon.com]
Now I have to figure out what I will have to pay in taxes on it....
Am not sure I want to set it up where my son can surround me with sound though....
I have the piece they cut out of it that fits exactly. I've read some tutorials online on how to use that piece to repair it and I think I may go that route first. I just don't know that I (or anyone else for that matter) am going to REALLY be able to get it to look like there was never a hole there after all is said and done and it's repainted and everything
at my own house they cut the attic access, which is a giant hole, in one place and then decided to put it somewhere else ( i think b/c it was right over a door that opened at an angle) and i didn't like the job they did, so i went over it w/ more spackle. at the time i had a very neat, meticulous contractor and even he said i did a really good job. the patch is really unnoticeable now.
you will probably have to spackle and sand 3 or even more times, but if you are conservative w/ the spackle so there is not tons of excess that has to be sanded off and you use a sanding block, it can be practically invisible. and of course use primer b4 you paint.
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Yes, you can. You are handy, you can do it. Trot your butt to Menards and get a package of drywall repair clips.
You'll use that to put that cut out piece back in. Then the fun begins. Now, since this is a big patch, you are going to be mudding a BIG area. I'm gonna say.... probably a foot and half out around the whole thing -- which means your patch area is going be 4' x 4'. Basically, you have to build up enough mud to cover the joint crack and the clips, and the screws holding it back together.
Then you have to taper that out and down to nothingness. It's probably going to take you two or three coats to do it. Just take it slowly and if you need to do 4 or 5 coats to get it, that's ok.
You will need a bigger spatula -- I have a 12" tape knife that I would use for a patch that big. They aren't expensive either. It's so hard to describe this. Work on getting a little twist on the blade -- keep your pressure a little harder on the outside edge than in the middle and you will naturally build up the middle and taper off the outer edge.
Hey, you've probably used wood filler with your projects. It's very similar, just on a larger scale. The one thing I can't stress enough is keeping your mud and your tools CLEAN. While I have been working at DD's -- I have been doing quit a bit and have to refill my pan over and over. About every third time I refill it, I completely wash the pan and all my tools. Nothing will screw you up faster than having crumbs or dirt in your mud -- of half dried mud.
Honestly, it's just practice. It isn't something you are going to ruin. Worst case, you have a whole lot of sanding and cleaning up to do... and maybe a new location for a BIG picture.
ETA: I also highly recommend the premix in a bucket or tub joint compound. There is a 90 minute fast dry powder -- stay away from it. Far, far away. I hate that sh*t.
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Another rainy day! Determined to make some progress on my housecleaning today. Hope you all have a lovely Tuesday, as well!!!
ETA: I also highly recommend the premix in a bucket or tub joint compound. There is a 90 minute fast dry powder -- stay away from it. Far, far away. I hate that sh*t.
on the other hand, they did a horrible job on the grout in my bathrooms and i'm always having to do repairs every few months. i used to used the premixed, but for some reason just did not work well. so i got the powder and it works so much better. i'm also pretty experienced w/ mixes b/c i used to work in a dentist's office and used to pour those plaster molds of teeth all the time. and i know it's not just me. my neighbor across the street regrouted his bathrooms too. he probably had colored grout so he can't just keep patching like i'm doing. but sooner rather than later i will be getting the bathrooms redone.
tm4d, you and your dh are pretty handy and i'm sure you'll do a good job. if you can build furniture, this will be easy. you just keep applying spackle a little at a time, letting it dry and sanding, over and over, till you get it smooth. like i told my dh this morn, this job doesn't require a high school diploma, you can do it! the job we are talking about is setting a trap for the groundhog who's made a home under our portico and we have to buy a trap and catch it ourselves and then call animal control to take it away.
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Thanks for the info Thrifteh!