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How a cell phone picture led to girl's suicide

5,315 707 October 23, 2010 at 02:46 PM in Chat (2)

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shuriken
10-23-2010 at 05:51 PM.
10-23-2010 at 05:51 PM.
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girls never sent me pics of their boobs.
sounds about right. Big Grin
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caveman017
10-23-2010 at 06:24 PM.
10-23-2010 at 06:24 PM.
Stupid on everyone's part.

For christ's sake, its just a friggin tit.

And all of this over name calling? Jeez, had she made it to high school, it would have been forgotten about. Kids grow up. Stupid on her part AND her friend's part for not telling anyone as well.
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dalokgawd
10-23-2010 at 06:36 PM.
10-23-2010 at 06:36 PM.
I want to know why the administrators didn't alert the parents of THE BULLIES so they could tell their kids to cut it out before it got out of hand.
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AggieMom
10-23-2010 at 06:39 PM.
10-23-2010 at 06:39 PM.
Quote from dalokgawd :
I want to know why the administrators didn't alert the parents of THE BULLIES so they could tell their kids to cut it out before it got out of hand.
Iagree I wonder how many of the kids who tormented this kid ever got called out for it. How many of those kids' parents were ever contacted by the school regarding their behavior. That kind of crap is not OK, and for teachers to turn a blind eye to that kind of constant bullying is unacceptable. Don't give me some lame ass excuse about how if we sent everyone to the principal who stepped out of line we'd have nobody left in class. Too freaking bad. The message needs to be sent that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
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dalokgawd
10-23-2010 at 06:47 PM.
10-23-2010 at 06:47 PM.
Quote from AggieMom :
Iagree I wonder how many of the kids who tormented this kid ever got called out for it. How many of those kids' parents were ever contacted by the school regarding their behavior. That kind of crap is not OK, and for teachers to turn a blind eye to that kind of constant bullying is unacceptable. Don't give me some lame ass excuse about how if we sent everyone to the principal who stepped out of line we'd have nobody left in class. Too freaking bad. The message needs to be sent that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
If half the school gets suspended, so be it. I guarantee that will send a message to the other kids that the administrators will not tolerate that kind of behavior.
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ElisMommy
10-23-2010 at 06:58 PM.
10-23-2010 at 06:58 PM.
At 13 years old the girl isn't mature enough to be making those decisions. The poor girl probably was only thinking of what would make the boy like her...not the repercussions.

That is where it is PARENT'S jobs to step in and supervise their children. My children won't be having a cellphone with camera and text until I am very confident they can be trusted. That may not be until after they are older, that is alright.

It is MY responsibility to supervise and monitor what they have access to. Scanners? Webcams? Digital Cameras? all of that can be monitored.

Some say, "Well what are you going to do when they go over to someone else's house and do it?"

The parents of any child my child spends time with will think like me and we will have an open line of communication about my expectations.

I'm not blaming the poor parents, and yes the other kids that did the bullying was wrong and they should be punished, but some of these tragic things can be prevented by doing a little preventive supervision, IMHO.

My son is just learning to open drawers, therefore I put the markers and paint up to a high shelf where he can't get them. If he gets the markers out and scribbles all over the wall, do I blame him? The Markers? Or my stupidity for leaving it down where he can get it unsupervised?
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10-23-2010 at 07:00 PM.
10-23-2010 at 07:00 PM.
Quote from dalokgawd :
If half the school gets suspended, so be it. I guarantee that will send a message to the other kids that the administrators will not tolerate that kind of behavior.
I agree and I'm a behavior teacher in high school! I do think kids get away with way too much. But then when kids are suspended too much (suspension rate is too high) the school gets reamed, too. So it is a no win situation.
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10-23-2010 at 07:04 PM.
10-23-2010 at 07:04 PM.
Quote from ElisMommy :
At 13 years old the girl isn't mature enough to be making those decisions. The poor girl probably was only thinking of what would make the boy like her...not the repercussions.

That is where it is PARENT'S jobs to step in and supervise their children. My children won't be having a cellphone with camera and text until I am very confident they can be trusted. That may not be until after they are older, that is alright.

It is MY responsibility to supervise and monitor what they have access to. Scanners? Webcams? Digital Cameras? all of that can be monitored.

Some say, "Well what are you going to do when they go over to someone else's house and do it?"

The parents of any child my child spends time with will think like me and we will have an open line of communication about my expectations.

I'm not blaming the poor parents, and yes the other kids that did the bullying was wrong and they should be punished, but some of these tragic things can be prevented by doing a little preventive supervision, IMHO.

My son is just learning to open drawers, therefore I put the markers and paint up to a high shelf where he can't get them. If he gets the markers out and scribbles all over the wall, do I blame him? The Markers? Or my stupidity for leaving it down where he can get it unsupervised?
Some of this sounds good in theory but as your kids get older, this will get revisited often and opinions do change. You can't control who your child becomes best friends with when they are in school.
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AggieMom
10-23-2010 at 07:27 PM.
10-23-2010 at 07:27 PM.
Quote from ElisMommy :
I agree and I'm a behavior teacher in high school! I do think kids get away with way too much. But then when kids are suspended too much (suspension rate is too high) the school gets reamed, too. So it is a no win situation.
I'd rather a high suspension rate than a high suicide rate. Frown Something has to change. I guarantee that it wouldn't take long for the kids to square up if they knew without a doubt that they'd lose out on extra curricular activities and have to make up work they miss during their suspension....
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10-23-2010 at 07:27 PM.
10-23-2010 at 07:27 PM.
Quote from setsail :
Some of this sounds good in theory but as your kids get older, this will get revisited often and opinions do change. You can't control who your child becomes best friends with when they are in school.
True.
However you CAN control who they go hang out with.
It's called parenting.
Not letting your kid do what they want.

wanna bet that cell phone had gps in it and the parent could track it easily?

not only that, i net it was on the parents account and thus controllable what could and could not be done with it.

And finally, the parent should be checking the phone periodically to see what the child is doing.
it's a child, not an adult. don't treat them like an adult until they prove they ARE an adult.
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10-23-2010 at 07:32 PM.
10-23-2010 at 07:32 PM.
Quote from R1Budha :
True.
However you CAN control who they go hang out with.
It's called parenting.
Not letting your kid do what they want.

wanna bet that cell phone had gps in it and the parent could track it easily?

not only that, i net it was on the parents account and thus controllable what could and could not be done with it.

And finally, the parent should be checking the phone periodically to see what the child is doing.
it's a child, not an adult. don't treat them like an adult until they prove they ARE an adult.
Absolutely, and one of the main reasons our kids have cell phones is because of the GPS and Sprint family locator service.
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shuriken
10-23-2010 at 08:24 PM.
10-23-2010 at 08:24 PM.
there is such a thing as over-parenting. Dontknow
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10-23-2010 at 08:57 PM.
10-23-2010 at 08:57 PM.
Quote from dalokgawd :
I couldn't disagree with this more. I don't think legislation and lawsuits are the solution to this problem. The solution to this problem is for the parents of the bullies to tell their kids that this sort of behavior is completely unacceptable for a human being and that if it continues they will ship their kids off to military school / ground them for an indefinite period of time / whatever it takes to drill into their kids head that treating other human beings this way will not be tolerated. Parents need to start manning up and punishing their kids when they behave like little monsters. Then maybe their kids would grow up to have morals and understand that there are consequences to their actions.
Sure, I think parenting is key. However, I don't think it belies the fact that harsher punishments need to be in place for those that bully other kids. The times have changed. Simple parent-teacher conferences don't work anymore. And surely, if parents understand that their kids (who bully other kids) could not only face school punishment but also legal consequences, it would definitely help to push parents to be stricter with their kids.

For example, let's say there were no laws that punish kids for vandalism or shoplifting. I'm sure parents wouldn't make a big deal about it if their kids were caught vandalizing or shoplifting. Because currently, if they are found guilty of either offenses, the kid (and ultimately, the parents) would face fines and court costs.

Parenting is important. Sorry to say this, but there are really bad parents out there who just don't give a crap.
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Ryu-bom
10-23-2010 at 10:24 PM.
10-23-2010 at 10:24 PM.
Actually you can blame faux-freedom America society for this stuff..

I am guessing most people here never even venture farther then their backyard.... Half of the real CIVILIZED unpuratanical actual freedom loving country, women's breast are the norm.. You see tits everywhere, magazine, billboards, tv, media...ect etc.. The nude beach almost all teens are topless...

But in America oh freaking no.... child porn child porn child porn, when a girl showing her tits is anything but that.... Its uptight America thats to blame... If tits were just that, no one would blink another eye at it... It'll be just the norm... But leave it to fake freedom thumping America to be behind on the rest of the world
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10-23-2010 at 10:28 PM.
10-23-2010 at 10:28 PM.
Somebody left the Podium door open again and all the flies are getting in here. Mad
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