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Police pepper spray peaceful students @ Davis

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Police pepper spray peaceful students
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redebeth
11-21-2011 at 01:13 AM.
11-21-2011 at 01:13 AM.
Quote from Jex :
The kids were breaking the law. They were suppose to just let them continue? I am not sure how this situation relates to high schoolers?
These are kids, they can be 17,18. even down to 15 years old and go to Davis...
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Iaaaiws
11-21-2011 at 01:54 AM.
11-21-2011 at 01:54 AM.
Quote from redebeth :
These are kids, they can be 17,18. even down to 15 years old and go to Davis...
When they decide to start playing adult games they have to be willing to face the consequences of their actions.

This isn't T-ball any more. We keep score.
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bryantq | Staff
11-21-2011 at 02:13 AM.
11-21-2011 at 02:13 AM.
Quote from redebeth :
Gawd I hate SD sometimes. These kids are angry. Weren't we all at one point? Grow a heart, these are somebody's kids. If pepper spray is ok to discipline with, well then, shee-it, try it on the high schoolers...
You hate sd because people criticize the retarded actions of some kids? They were clearly told - you are blocking the pathway, leave or you're going to get pepper sprayed.

The guy even got the can, then waited, and they still didnt leave.

Then officers came up to the protesters to try to grab them and take them away, but they actively resisted and pulled back.

At this point, they were sprayed as a means to a) force them to disperse or at least unlock hands, so it would be easier to apprehend these CRIMINALS.

Furthermore, let me tell you from experience: no one likes to use pepperspray. Think about it: spray the suspect, then go in to arrest them, it means the cops get contaminated as well.

The students chose this so they could be martyrs. Anyone with half a brain would understand this. Did you notice how the people who were on the grass were left alone? Its the idiots on the sidewalk who refused to move that got arrested. They had a choice. In the moments leading up to it, you could hear them even joking around - they weren't taking it seriously, but the police are.
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Iaaaiws
11-21-2011 at 02:23 AM.
11-21-2011 at 02:23 AM.
Quote from bryantq :
Anyone with half a brain would understand this.
aaaaannnnnd I think we have finally come around to the root of the problem laugh out loud
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idkist
11-21-2011 at 06:26 AM.
11-21-2011 at 06:26 AM.
Forget pepper spray... they should have rubber bulleted all the dirty hippies...
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11-21-2011 at 06:36 AM.
11-21-2011 at 06:36 AM.
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All i have to say is, if they didn't want to get peppersprayed, all they had to do was move.

Notice how the one kid on the right, in the beginning of the video, was like "... uh yeah i dont want any of this" and left.

The police let people protest and they let people congregate (notice how everyone on the grass didnt get sprayed, only the idiots blocking the sidewalk).

Non-compliance with a lawful order is justification for some force. These people we warned days ahead of time, verbally and with written notice. Now that they knew it was not allowed, they still disobeyed... Disorderly Conduct and Civil Disobedience.
Iagree

Same way I feel whenever I hear about Syrian protestors getting shot at. If would have stayed at home, you would have never been shot at. DON"T CLICK ON THIS SHIT. IT IS HORRIBLY DISGUSTING AND WILL GIVE YOU NIGHTMARES [youtube.com]
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11-21-2011 at 07:27 AM.
11-21-2011 at 07:27 AM.
Quote from redebeth :
Gawd I hate SD sometimes. These kids are angry. Weren't we all at one point? Grow a heart, these are somebody's kids. If pepper spray is ok to discipline with, well then, shee-it, try it on the high schoolers...
These "kids" were deliberately breaking the law. They chose to resist and pepper spray was used as a compliance tool. The officer used the least force and best tool for the amount of people involved. If these people want to protest they need to abide by the law and knock off the dramatics.
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jj.12321
11-21-2011 at 09:28 AM.
11-21-2011 at 09:28 AM.
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Sounds to me like they should have gotten the fk off private property when asked.
How does that justify violence by the cops though?

What a joke that the 35 cops in riot gear "feared their own safety" by 50 college students camping on the quad.

This was done out of concern for the students' safety? Give me a break.

Seems odd that administrators aren't worried when students pitch tents on campus to wait in line to get tickets for a sporting event, but it's entirely different when it's a protest.
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11-21-2011 at 09:34 AM.
11-21-2011 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from redebeth :
Gawd I hate SD sometimes. These kids are angry. Weren't we all at one point? Grow a heart, these are somebody's kids. If pepper spray is ok to discipline with, well then, shee-it, try it on the high schoolers...
But, do you understand that they were trespassing on private property. The group was actually asked to leave peacefully prior. Most did leave. The remaining ppl refused to leave peacefully. As part of most police procedures, pepper spraying uncooperative ppl in trying to breakup a protest is common.

Would you rather the protesters be tazed? Because, pepper spray is non-lethal. Your eyes just sting really, really bad. You talk about growing a heart and that these are somebody's kids. Well, those are the risks you take when you protest and refuse to leave private property. That's common knowledge when you protest--that is, you may get arrested and peppered sprayed.
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11-21-2011 at 09:36 AM.
11-21-2011 at 09:36 AM.
When I initially saw the picture yesterday, I thought it was pretty messed up. But after looking into the circumstances further, I'd have to agree that the protesters had it coming. I personally could care less for this occupy crap.

I really felt that the students in the video screaming shame on you for 5 minutes straight sounded stupid --;
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11-21-2011 at 09:42 AM.
11-21-2011 at 09:42 AM.
Quote from Ram|bunc|tious :
That's the biggest outrage reported Mad
Sigh.. when your kids get older and get exposed to police brutality, I am sure you'll feel different.

The cops used violence (pepper spray is violence) against kids that were sitting on the ground, and they are getting praised as heroes, and that the kids "had it coming"

It's sad how violence is so accepted and relished in our society today.

As someone else said, the cops should've arrested the protestors non-violently..That would've cleared the sidewalk.. Instead the cops were too lazy and resorted to violence.

I hope the cops that did this all lose their job, and become part of the 20% of this country that is unemployed/underemployed. That would be justice.
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11-21-2011 at 09:50 AM.
11-21-2011 at 09:50 AM.
Quote from jj.12321 :
Sigh.. when your kids get older and get exposed to police brutality, I am sure you'll feel different.
Yeah if my son gets pulled over, dragged out of his car and beaten for driving a similar car to someone who just held up a liquor store, I will be pretty pissed.

However, if my son were at college, sitting in the middle of a sidewalk, protesting for whatever cause, and he is told to move or else get pepper sprayed, THEN he gets sprayed for not moving, I will call him a dumbass and tell him to get to class.
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11-21-2011 at 09:55 AM.
11-21-2011 at 09:55 AM.
Quote from jj.12321 :
Sigh.. when your kids get older and get exposed to police brutality, I am sure you'll feel different.

The cops used violence (pepper spray is violence) against kids that were sitting on the ground, and they are getting praised as heroes, and that the kids "had it coming"

It's sad how violence is so accepted and relished in our society today.

As someone else said, the cops should've arrested the protestors non-violently..That would've cleared the sidewalk.. Instead the cops were too lazy and resorted to violence.

I hope the cops that did this all lose their job, and become part of the 20% of this country that is unemployed/underemployed. That would be justice.
Pepper spray is NOT violent! Are you kidding me?!?!?! It's a non-violent means to apprehend someone by immobilizing them first. Would you rather have the police bring out the high-power water hose?

Quote from LordOfChaos :
Yeah if my son gets pulled over, dragged out of his car and beaten for driving a similar car to someone who just held up a liquor store, I will be pretty pissed.

However, if my son were at college, sitting in the middle of a sidewalk, protesting for whatever cause, and he is told to move or else get pepper sprayed, THEN he gets sprayed for not moving, I will call him a dumbass and tell him to get to class.
Exactly!
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11-21-2011 at 09:58 AM.
11-21-2011 at 09:58 AM.
Quote from jj.12321 :
Sigh.. when your kids get older and get exposed to police brutality, I am sure you'll feel different.

The cops used violence (pepper spray is violence) against kids that were sitting on the ground, and they are getting praised as heroes, and that the kids "had it coming"

It's sad how violence is so accepted and relished in our society today.

As someone else said, the cops should've arrested the protestors non-violently..That would've cleared the sidewalk.. Instead the cops were too lazy and resorted to violence.

I hope the cops that did this all lose their job, and become part of the 20% of this country that is unemployed/underemployed. That would be justice.
There would not have been use of pepper spray (compliance tool) if these people would have got up off of their asses and obeyed the law. They were warned. They are clearly defiant in the beginning chanting fark the police and laughing.....and the one asking "are you going to shoot me?" These are little attention idiots that think they can do whatever they want and probably don't even know what they are protesting.

Picking them up one by one would have caused more of an issue......do you actually think they would just sit there and get cuffed and walk? No, from what I see there they would have fought back and then the billy clubs would have had to come out and then people would really be crying violence.

How would you feel if your kid acted like an idiot, causing public outrage, caught on film, breaking the law like that?
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11-21-2011 at 10:01 AM.
11-21-2011 at 10:01 AM.
Quote from z2g :
Pepper spray is NOT violent! Are you kidding me?!?!?! It's a non-violent means to apprehend someone by immobilizing them first. Would you rather have the police bring out the high-power water hose?
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Pepper spray is violent.
Have you ever been sprayed by it? It hurts like hell.
It causes pain and injury.. isn't that the definition of violence?

I would rather the cops arrest the kids one by one. If the kids threw a punch, then the cops could use reasonable force. Remember, there was 35 friggin cops there, and only 50 protestors (and I think not all the 50 were on the sidewalk).
Are you telling me that 35 cops could not arrest 20-50 people?
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