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Police pepper spray peaceful students @ Davis
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Look, i think folks have a right to do their jobs too, bt the police simply did not *have to* do this. It was a sign of exasperation and irritation.
I for one agree the kids will be better off staying in class and taking school seriously and avoiding confrontaion like this. However, if my kid had the balls to be peppersprayed, i'd be a little happy, secretly.
Change does not happen easily. and if everyone here thinks things don't need to change, well I don't know what to say...
I agree with 12321, we'd all still be oppresed (except rich white boys) if people were all sheeple...bt this is part of the deal with oppression, they will will taze, hose and pepperspray. Again, change isn't easy.
Again the officers had to take the bystander's saftey into consideration too. It seems people fail to see the logical sequence here.
They should have protested in a legal manner to avoid this situation. But I honestly think they wanted this to happen. Why else would people taunt the police except for a reaction....caught on camera of course.
The pepper spray was used after other methods didn't sink into their thick heads.
But I am assuming that probably means they will choose a different law to break. I guess you can't win them all.
Again the officers had to take the bystander's saftey into consideration too. It seems people fail to see the logical sequence here.
They should have protested in a legal manner to avoid this situation. But I honestly think they wanted this to happen. Why else would people taunt the police except for a reaction....caught on camera of course.
The pepper spray was used after other methods didn't sink into their thick heads.
Being stubborn when you've been asked to leave and warned that you will be pepper sprayed if you don't comply is just STUPID. We're not talking about the civil rights movement here. We're talking about the Occupy Movement which is kind of stupid to begin with!
Hell no, they were asked to leave many times and attacked.
Still, our government defended the "right" of these people to assemble, because it furthered our own interests.
When the shoe is on the other foot, our government gets out the pepper spray.
They are students, on the campus they go to.. That's a generous use of the word "trespassing". If this was an event to raise money for breast cancer, and they set up tents for a few weeks, do you think that would be labeled trespassing? Maybe at UC, but not at most universities.
Is that right for your work to fire you due to the aftermath of you following procedure? Or, would your defense be (and rightfully so) that you just followed procedure?
The fat cop should've known that spraying a defenseless woman sitting on the sidewalk (the picture) was excessive use of force. Just like the Nazis should've known that killing Jews was wrong and not done it. (Although that was obviously a more serious offense, I am not equating the two). That's where the famous "I was just following orders" defense originated from.
That's a huge difference from someone making a phone call.
Don't confuse compliance with complacency.
Now I see why you would be proud of your kid for participating in such activity. Way to be
The fat cop should've known that spraying a defenseless woman sitting on the sidewalk (the picture) was excessive use of force. Just like the Nazis should've known that killing Jews was wrong and not done it. (Although that was obviously a more serious offense, I am not equating the two). That's where the famous "I was just following orders" defense originated from.
That's a huge difference from someone making a phone call.
You are the one that is confused.
Haha comparing this to the Nazis killing Jewish people. Next thing you know it will be like the Crucifiction of Christ.
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Woman Breaking the Law != Man Breaking the Law ??
Well granted that is generally the case with women that sleep with little boys... but that's outside of this topic...
Hell no, they were asked to leave many times and attacked.
Still, our government defended the "right" of these people to assemble, because it furthered our own interests.
When the shoe is on the other foot, our government gets out the pepper spray.
They are students, on the campus they go to.. That's a generous use of the word "trespassing". If this was an event to raise money for breast cancer, and they set up tents for a few weeks, do you think that would be labeled trespassing? Maybe at UC, but not at most universities.
The fat cop should've known that spraying a defenseless woman sitting on the sidewalk (the picture) was excessive use of force. Just like the Nazis should've known that killing Jews was wrong and not done it. (Although that was obviously a more serious offense, I am not equating the two). That's where the famous "I was just following orders" defense originated from.
That's a huge difference from someone making a phone call.
You are the one that is confused.
How would you feel if a bunch of homeless ppl decided to create a protest against the government in your backyard? By your token, they have a right to be there exercising their right to protest.
As far as your Nazi analogy, that's WAY off. We're talking about pepper spraying someone who's refusing numerous requests to vacate. And, the use of pepper spray is considered normal procedure. You are trying to compare it to the eradication of an entire population via murder?!?!!?
As far as my analogy not applying to this scenario, why not? We're talking about the same scenario where there are work procedures in place, an employee follows it, and he then gets in trouble for it. How is that different!?!?!? My point is that it's following work procedures and the consequences. HOWEVER, your analogy of a military person following orders to murder ppl is more analogous to the Davis case?!?!?!
That said, he is still using that analogy to support his argument, which is rather extreme. And, just because you state that "I'm not equating the two" after you mention it in your argument does NOT mean that it takes away from the point that you're trying to make as far as relating the two.
That said, he is still using that analogy to support his argument, which is rather extreme. And, just because you state that "I'm not equating the two" after you mention it in your argument does NOT mean that it takes away from the point that you're trying to make as far as relating the two.
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The students were blocking a sidewalk.. OMG.. they might've disrupted a school activity.
(There's no evidence I saw where they were not allowing people to pass through).
So you are saying blocking a sidewalk is worse than trying to overthrow the government?
If so, you should run for congress