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Police pepper spray peaceful students @ Davis

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Police pepper spray peaceful students
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DBC
11-28-2011 at 08:20 AM.
11-28-2011 at 08:20 AM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
Am I the only one who finds the arrogance and entitlement complex of the most vocal of the UC Davis crowd absolutely abhorrent? It really grates on me for some reason.

They act as if the first amendment entitles them to do whatever the fark they want, when they want, without repercussions. They played the game, didn't play by the rules, and got burned. Now they want everyone involved to get fired/resign, like the students have no culpability in the matter.

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Could you dumb it down a bit? Are you for dick riding the cops are are you a cop hater?
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Moot-N-Me
11-28-2011 at 08:38 AM.
11-28-2011 at 08:38 AM.
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Could you dumb it down a bit?
Comfort

Cops in question = right
Protesters in question = wrong
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vec
11-28-2011 at 08:41 AM.
11-28-2011 at 08:41 AM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
Am I the only one who finds the arrogance and entitlement complex of the most vocal of the UC Davis crowd absolutely abhorrent? It really grates on me for some reason.

They act as if the first amendment entitles them to do whatever the fark they want, when they want, without repercussions. They played the game, didn't play by the rules, and got burned. Now they want everyone involved to get fired/resign, like the students have no culpability in the matter.

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Iagree

Quote from Moot-N-Me :
Comfort

Cops in question = right
Protesters in question = wrong
This is what I got out of that post as well nod
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11-28-2011 at 08:41 AM.
11-28-2011 at 08:41 AM.
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Comfort

Dick riding cops = right
Hating cops = wrong
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11-28-2011 at 08:44 AM.
11-28-2011 at 08:44 AM.
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I could be wrong but both of your fixes seem to be the same thing but contradict each other with the right\wrong outcome.
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11-28-2011 at 08:51 AM.
11-28-2011 at 08:51 AM.
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Feel free to give any input that would constitute an actual normal conversation. Smilie

BTW - What is it with you and the dick riding? Take a break once in a while dude....you don't always have to come out on top.
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11-28-2011 at 08:59 AM.
11-28-2011 at 08:59 AM.
Quote from Moot-N-Me :
Feel free to give any input that would constitute an actual normal conversation. Smilie

BTW - What is it with you and the dick riding? Take a break once in a while dude....you don't always have to come out on top.
But this thread boils down to whether you are dick rider or hater on the side of the cops or the protestors. It's a simple as that.

It is sad that people have a hard time saying that the cop may have been wrong in using pepper spray. If he isn't part of your family and didn't know he existed before this incident, then you don't have to pledge allegiance to him.
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11-28-2011 at 09:02 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:02 AM.
Quote from DBC :
But this thread boils down to whether you are dick rider or hater on the side of the cops or the protestors. It's a simple as that.

It is sad that people have a hard time saying that the cop may have been wrong in using pepper spray. If he isn't part of your family and didn't know he existed before this incident, then you don't have to pledge allegiance to him.
This makes no sense. Are you saying that we have to know someone personally in order to agree with their actions?

Why do we have to pledge allegiance to the protesters?
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11-28-2011 at 09:12 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:12 AM.
Quote from vec :
This makes no sense. Are you saying that we have to know someone personally in order to agree with their actions?

Why do we have to pledge allegiance to the protesters?
I am saying that you don't have to blindly defend someone you don't know. If you are doing so, be prepared to be called a dick rider.

I am not for or against the protestors. I really wouldn't give a fark if they sprayed them with buckshot.It wouldn't make a difference in my life if the protestors or the cops were real. Shit doesn't directly affect me.
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11-28-2011 at 09:17 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:17 AM.
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I am saying that you don't have to blindly defend someone you don't know. If you are doing so, be prepared to be called a dick rider.

I am not for or against the protestors. I really wouldn't give a fark if they sprayed them with buckshot.It wouldn't make a difference in my life if the protestors or the cops were real. Shit doesn't directly affect me.
What if we genuinely agree with the actions of the police officers?

What if these protests are affecting our everyday lives? It may not be this particular location, but the protests in general.
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11-28-2011 at 09:22 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:22 AM.
Quote from DBC :
But this thread boils down to whether you are dick rider or hater on the side of the cops or the protestors. It's a simple as that.

It is sad that people have a hard time saying that the cop may have been wrong in using pepper spray. If he isn't part of your family and didn't know he existed before this incident, then you don't have to pledge allegiance to him.

I (in this case) feel that the protesters were wrong for several reasons. They did not protest lawfully, they disregarded the the officer's request to move to legal area to continue, at least one pulled away resisting, the group locked arms and resisted the police as a whole.

We have the right to protest and they took advantage and did whatever they wanted to do instead of obeying the law. They disrespected our military that fights for these freedoms.

I don't pledge allegiance to the officer in any way. He was doing his job.

The point is we don't all agree that the pepper spray use was proper. I feel it was because of the actions of the protesters.....breaking the law and resisting arrest. I feel the officer made plenty of attempts to get them to move. Since they were breaking the law they should have moved at first request instead of making an idiotic scene.

Do I think all cops are good. I know that all cops are not good. Just like there is bad in all other occupations.
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11-28-2011 at 09:24 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:24 AM.
Forget about it....totally a waste of time to start a debate....
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11-28-2011 at 09:29 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:29 AM.
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Except you're making broad assertions with little fact to back them up. I never said "hating cops" was wrong, nor did I say that you have to suck up to them all. It's a case-by-case basis. In this case, the cops were right. I'd rather some kids get sprayed a little and get pissed off than someone get a broken limb or worse because the cops had to intervene with physical force. They deployed the OC, and it worked. Problem solved. Next time, they'll know not to impede a public right-of-way without authorization.
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11-28-2011 at 09:32 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:32 AM.
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speaking of working hard. I am so sure a bunch of lazyass saying others are not working hard....
Plenty of ppl protesting on the street has a better job than u I guess....... You don't have to wait till you are starving to start protesting, that's too late

Back to the topic the authority can easily claim any protests illegal with its power... It can be "illegal" on public property or private property. So should people all protest in their own homes?
The students, in question, were impeding a public right-of-way. Students that wanted to get to class would have to take alternate routes to avoid getting caught up in the affray. It was interfering with the workings of the institutions. It was interfering with students who paid a tuition to go there.
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11-28-2011 at 09:35 AM.
11-28-2011 at 09:35 AM.
Quote from realdreams :
speaking of working hard. I am so sure a bunch of lazyass saying others are not working hard....
If these protesters are hard working then they would be at work and working hard.

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Plenty of ppl protesting on the street has a better job than u I guess
Some proof please?

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You don't have to wait till you are starving to start protesting, that's too late
These protests are not about people being starving.....actually, they aren't about anything that they could change, even if people agreed with them.

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Back to the topic the authority can easily claim any protests illegal with its power... It can be "illegal" on public property or private property. So should people all protest in their own homes?
Yes, protest in their homes so they don't affect the real hardworking people. The same hardworking people that have no sympathy for their imaginary cause.
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