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Another theory on obesity
February 10, 2012 at
06:25 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua
There are many theories on the causes of obesity. Some say too much fat, too many calories. Ironically, many of the modern diets have generally failed to fix the problem.
The above video is long. For people who will reply with tl;dr here is the synopsis:
Watch it if you get a chance. I really enjoyed it and found it both eye opening and informative, without needing some shock factor or sex to sell it. It follows a simple premise and makes a lot of sense.
There are many theories on the causes of obesity. Some say too much fat, too many calories. Ironically, many of the modern diets have generally failed to fix the problem.
The above video is long. For people who will reply with tl;dr here is the synopsis:
Watch it if you get a chance. I really enjoyed it and found it both eye opening and informative, without needing some shock factor or sex to sell it. It follows a simple premise and makes a lot of sense.
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This I can agree with. All that fat-ass farkers eating Twinkies and bon-bons instead of picking up an apple or some broccoli.
This I can agree with. All that fat-ass farkers eating Twinkies and bon-bons instead of picking up an apple.
Well. we've been adding sugar and removing fiber for the last 40 or so years. The easiest thing for most obese people to do is reduce/remove sugar, as most store bought things still have the fiber removed.
I said this earlier: most things naturally high in sugar are also naturally high in fiber (fruit, veggie, REAL pasta, etc.). To make it more "appetising", companies remove fiber (both flavor and shelf life) and add sugar.
It's very hard to arbitrarily add fiber to a diet (seriously, wheat germ tastes like garbage) and people are generally inconvenienced by cooking. Removing sugar is very easy in comparison and has very rapid effects.
The gov has a lot to do with this problem (causing and perpetuating it).
That was way too definitive. No room for negotiation.
Again, sugar is the accomplice, not the culprit.
Again, sugar is the accomplice, not the culprit.
That is my problem. I do not believe that sugar is the start and end of anything...and apparently you do not either since you refer to it as an accomplice.
You're talking about the unhealthy over-caloried pre-packaged pre-prepared foods. All boils down to portion control.
So the problem isn't sugar! Which is what vec and I have been saying.
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That is my problem. I do not believe that sugar is the start and end of anything...and apparently you do not either since you refer to it as an accomplice.
Well, it's the cause. The problem is WHY it is the cause. I had the fiber stuff in the OP from the beginning.
You're talking about the unhealthy over-caloried pre-packaged pre-prepared foods. All boils down to portion control.
Also you can take fiber supplements, so that's easy.
So the problem isn't sugar! Which is what vec and I have been saying.
The problem is still sugar w/o the fiber.
Pasta is supposed to be naturally high in fiber, but the fiber is removed to increase shelf life. Kids like white bread more than grain bread because it has a ton of sugar in it (and removing the grain from it reduces fiber, etc.). Kids grow up not eating fruits and veggies and then don't like them later in life either.
Yes, fiber supplements is a practical solution.
I know many people with low calorie diets who can't lose weight, and I've often wondered about that. The problem is a calorie is not a calorie. Sugar has a bigger effect on us than we accept. Portion control only goes as far as our bodies can process and break down the stuff we eat.
And if you add to "sugar w/o fiber w/o exercise w/o proper caloric intake" then I'd agree.
Pasta is supposed to be naturally high in fiber, but the fiber is removed to increase shelf life. Kids like white bread more than grain bread because it has a ton of sugar in it (and removing the grain from it reduces fiber, etc.). Kids grow up not eating fruits and veggies and then don't like them later in life either.
Yes, fiber supplements is a practical solution.
I know many people with low calorie diets who can't lose weight, and I've often wondered about that. The problem is a calorie is not a calorie. Sugar has a bigger effect on us than we accept. Portion control only goes as far as our bodies can process and break down the stuff we eat.
I agree with most of what you said.
Also, low calorie, how low? You know if you eat below a certain calorie amount, your body goes into starvation mode and will turn most of what you eat into fat?
These people really need to also link to an article/essay.
Then again, last I heard, we still had dodge ball here
And if you add to "sugar w/o fiber w/o exercise w/o proper caloric intake" then I'd agree.
Then why are Americans so fat, when we're not the top consumers of sugar per-capita?
I agree with most of what you said. He covers exercise, calorie intake, etc.
Also, low calorie, how low? You know if you eat below a certain calorie amount, your body goes into starvation mode and will turn most of what you eat into fat?
Other countries get lots of fiber. Fiber blocks some absorption of carbs (which are naturally high in sugar). That's his theory on that piece.
Of all the theories on obesity, this one makes the most reasonable WHY explanation, and he has some evidence as why his theory captures most of the population (given his clinic on dealing with obese children)
Then again, last I heard, we still had dodge ball here
I can't believe schools would remove this game from their programs. It's an injustice!
I hate that dodgeball gets a bad rap. I hate the 'trophy for everyone' mentality. I hate every liberal agenda that separates our kids from the real world.
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Well, it's the cause. The problem is WHY it is the cause. I had the fiber stuff in the OP from the beginning.