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Samsung vs. Apple - Verdict has come down..

18,933 670 August 24, 2012 at 04:17 PM in Chat (2)
http://gizmodo.com/5937762/samsun...g-updating

Samsung got wrecked:

* Jury finds Samsung infringement of Apple utility, design patents for some (though not all) products
* Jury upholds Apple utility, design patents
* Jury upholds Apple trade dress '983
* Jury finds Samsung "diluted" Apple's registered iPhone, iPhone 3 and "Combination iPhone" trade dress on some products, not on others
* No Apple infringement of Samsung utility patents
* Jury found Samsung violated antitrust law by monopolizing markets related to the UMTS standard

Damages owed by Samsung:
* $2.3 billion and counting

(Full disclosure: above info stolen from live.cnet.com/Event/Apple_vs_Samsung_verdict)
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dzap
08-25-2012 at 08:07 AM.
08-25-2012 at 08:07 AM.
Quote from Ryu-bom :
I hear sooner or later all non-Apple phones will be triangular, due to the fact that Apple has a patent on the rectangular shape......LMAO

Sucks to do business in america....

Wonder why Apple ain't going after those Chinese who cloned their ipods?
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Ryu-bom
08-25-2012 at 08:17 AM.
08-25-2012 at 08:17 AM.
Quote from dzap :
sorry that too is patent-ed to this guy.......
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dzap
08-25-2012 at 08:51 AM.
08-25-2012 at 08:51 AM.
Quote from Ryu-bom :
sorry that too is patent-ed to this guy.......
http://us.toshiba.com/shapes/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm47qmgffs8
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menace33
08-25-2012 at 10:25 AM.
08-25-2012 at 10:25 AM.
Alright so what products did Samsung create that infringe upon these Apple patents? Which ones are safe? I kinda want to know what is about to be scoured off the market.
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jeffs99
08-25-2012 at 12:31 PM.
08-25-2012 at 12:31 PM.
Quote from Landers :
Good. I use my left finger!

I use my middle finger when describing Apple.....
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gunnerusa
08-25-2012 at 02:54 PM.
08-25-2012 at 02:54 PM.
Quote from menace33 :
Alright so what products did Samsung create that infringe upon these Apple patents? Which ones are safe? I kinda want to know what is about to be scoured off the market.
None are safe. Apple can just go to the court and file a legal petition to have "violating" devices added to the injunction as they're invented. Great idea, huh? Perfect way to keep that darn capitalism from rearing its ugly head! Wink
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menace33
08-25-2012 at 03:10 PM.
08-25-2012 at 03:10 PM.
Quote from gunnerusa :
None are safe. Apple can just go to the court and file a legal petition to have "violating" devices added to the injunction as they're invented. Great idea, huh? Perfect way to keep that darn capitalism from rearing its ugly head! Wink
Well Censored2 There goes me getting a Samsung Galaxy 3 Media Player.
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AngryPirate
08-25-2012 at 07:06 PM.
08-25-2012 at 07:06 PM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
Seriously though who actually wins in a case like this?

No matter what phone you want it still costs eleventy hundred dollars, unless you're willing to sell your soul & chain your future to one shitty wireless company or the other for 2-12 years to get a subsidy that isn't worth the first six months of your fees, you can't reliably predict what your bill's going to be and you're more likely to get hit with weirdass hidden charges than to find a nickel on the sidewalk anymore. Want to pay your bill online? Surprise! It costs more then mailing a check. Except you have to enroll in paperless billing in order to get the free case and Beats by Dre(c)(r)(tm)(fk) headset. We can only sign you up for this special family sharing plan at a Best Buy in Kentucky, but if you buy the phone online we'll send a kid to your house the day after it arrives to help you program it (you should tip him a few dollars and give him a bottle of water). Near the end of your contract we'll send a signal to your phone to make it stop working, about a day after the warranty or insurance runs out but a few weeks before you're eligible for the next shitty subsidy on the newest overpriced handsets. Oh and your nighttime minutes start sixteen minutes after sundown but we use GMT not any time zone you've ever heard of! Good luck!
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chevvy
08-26-2012 at 06:17 AM.
08-26-2012 at 06:17 AM.
I don't get it. I was using a Samsung i700 and i730 touchscreen phone before the iphone ever came out. Both of these enabled pinch zoom using SPB Pocket Plus for Windows CE. Dontknow

On another note.....Samsung did prove one point: Apple products are way over priced for what they deliver.
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TigerStar
08-26-2012 at 06:36 AM.
08-26-2012 at 06:36 AM.
Landers, does this mean your Christmas Winter Solstice bonus will be bigger this year?
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ALVSGIRLY
08-26-2012 at 06:46 AM.
08-26-2012 at 06:46 AM.
heart Apple and I hope the stock goes up, up, up!
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chevvy
08-26-2012 at 07:24 AM.
08-26-2012 at 07:24 AM.
Quote from TigerStar :
Landers, does this mean your Christmas Winter Solstice bonus will be bigger this year?

He didn't earn that bonus. Someone else earned it for him.
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Landers
08-26-2012 at 12:58 PM.
08-26-2012 at 12:58 PM.
Quote from TigerStar :
Landers, does this mean your Christmas Winter Solstice bonus will be bigger this year?
If only that were true.. laugh out loud
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Beartrkkr
08-26-2012 at 06:50 PM.
08-26-2012 at 06:50 PM.
Quote from Superocean :
Here we see patents doing counter to what they are intended to do, which is promote innovation. There were no software patents in the '80s, when Xerox pioneered the GUI. Would a young and inexperienced Apple have withstood the legal assault from a much larger company like Xerox? Early Steve Jobs quoted Picasso (great artists steal); more recently he said: "I'm going to destroy Android because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to to go thermonuclear on this."

Apple = do as I say not as I do.
The difference may have been that Apple paid Xerox to take a look at what they were doing. Interesting write up about Apple and Xerox and the things that Xerox did and didn't do with their creative people is here: linky [newyorker.com]

About the creation of the "mouse"
"So was what Jobs took from Xerox the idea of the mouse? Not quite, because Xerox never owned the idea of the mouse. The PARC researchers got it from the computer scientist Douglas Engelbart, at Stanford Research Institute, fifteen minutes away on the other side of the university campus."
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Beartrkkr
08-26-2012 at 07:09 PM.
08-26-2012 at 07:09 PM.
Quote from chewspam :
I don't get it. I was using a Samsung i700 and i730 touchscreen phone before the iphone ever came out. Both of these enabled pinch zoom using SPB Pocket Plus for Windows CE. Dontknow

On another note.....Samsung did prove one point: Apple products are way over priced for what they deliver.
The issue was not the touchscreen, this way invented way before, but the look and feel of the design. Some internal Samsung documents sort of point to the company needing to recreate the look and feel of the iPhone.

No one will confuse the slide out keyboard model i730 with an iPhone.



Their newer model however looks way more similar

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