Samsung vs. Apple - Verdict has come down..

they didn't win on the ipad result, they won on the UI/bezel of the Iphone
if you read the jury result, they found samsung not infringement on the Ipad design.

If you read my quote on the juror, he stated they believed they copied the UI look and the bezel
Also honestly, the bezel? i mean really a bezel is the infringement?

Which if you look at the F700 i showed you, would've proved this "UI" and bezel was already in use by samsung phones 1 year before the iphone was announced.

Its a ridiculous point, the US Patent office is retarded for granting such a broad patent, and the jurors that have talked so far are just giving samsung ammunition in their appeal.

This "settlement" won't be resolved for another 5 years, its funny how they're arguing about the Samsung Galaxy S and the iphone 3G, they aren't even complaining about current devices. But apple wants to use its ruling on the Galaxy S to stop S3 sales? When the phones don't look alike at all?

I hear sooner or later all non-Apple phones will be triangular, due to the fact that Apple has a patent on the rectangular shape......

Sucks to do business in america....

Wonder why Apple ain't going after those Chinese who cloned their ipods?

I am glad that the jury reached the verdict against Samsung.

You should read this article CAREFULLY: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3...peaks-out/
It's about a juror speaking out on the case. He explains how "The e-mails that went back and forth from Samsung execs about the Apple features that they should incorporate into their devices was pretty damning to me."

There's only 1 or 2 people here that actually get it. There's a reason why the jury immediately came to the conclusion right at the outset that Samsung was guilty. There was clear and convincing evidence that Samsung not only copied Apple but knew it was wrong and did it anyway. The jury found that Samsung acted with willful disregard for copying Apple's ideas. Willful disregard is different than just plain disregard.

Samsung is another asian electronics company that got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They got caught red handed copying Apple's features all the way from the bezel to the User Interface, Icons, everything. They analyzed what made iPhone successful and went out of their way to copy it. They debated the ethics of it in internal emails, said, "F*** it" and kept on trucking. That's totally different than what you or anybody else here is saying.

This case will not be resolved in 5 years. This was a slam dunk, in your face, Samsung got their arses whipped.

I don't know why they keep saying Android is in trouble. This was a case about Samsung, not Android. This was about Samsung execs blatantly copying iPhone features. Of all the patents violated none of them were part of Android's core.

"It didn't dawn on us [that we agreed that Samsung had infringed] on the first day," Ilagan said. "We were debating heavily, especially about the patents on bounce-back and pinch-to-zoom. Apple said they owned patents, but we were debating about the prior art [about similar technology that Samsung said existed before the iPhone debuted]. [Velvin] Hogan was jury foreman. He had experience. He owned patents himself...so he took us through his experience. After that it was easier. After we debated that first patent -- what was prior art --because we had a hard time believing there was no prior art."

"In fact we skipped that one," Ilagan continued, "so we could go on faster. It was bogging us down."

there's actually truth to that.

the store "forever 21" was founded by a korean man. he had only one store when he started. his two daughters looked thru fashion magazines & today's fashion trends. they took the designs, modified it, made their own labels and most of all, made it affordable.

true story, read it in an interview somewhere.

It's not really a question of liking Samsung. It's a question of Apple corrupting patent law to crush free competition. How can you patent a basic concept, like a rectangle that fits in the palm of someone's hand? It's one thing to patent a machine that functions in a specific way, but you shouldn't be able to patent a basic concept that you didn't even invent. That's what's at stake here. Today Samsung, tomorrow Motorola, HTC, LG, etc...

And the real danger is not that the ruling will squash today's manufacturers. What's it going to do to that guy tinkering in his garage? Why should he innovate when Apple has patented extremely basic ideas like the rectangle? He's just going to get sued to death, so why bother?

Talking about a country where everyone does plastic surgery and scare of fan death.

whats a fan death?

you cant have a jury decide on this kind of stuff. Only a panel of professionals should judge on a case like this. Sorry, average joes dont have the engineering know how to decide.

Why. Part of the dilution of a patent is if it creates confusion for a layperson. If laypeople confuse the products then it's clear there is dilution

An expert may notice the subtle differences

only a total idiot would be confused between an iphone and a samsung phone. Patents are issued on individual merit not per device, and quite frankly, shouldnt be issued 99% of the time.

only a total idiot would be confused between an iphone and a samsung phone. Patents are issued on individual merit not per device, and quite frankly, shouldnt be issued 99% of the time.