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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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JackHandey
08-31-2007 at 08:56 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:56 AM.
Ten moth old? That kid is bigger than my 22mo daughter!
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TigerStar
08-31-2007 at 08:59 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:59 AM.
Quote from IVIax :
laugh out loud wasn't there a story about a 4 year old still on breast milk on SD a while back?
Quote from KimbersTimber :
Ten moth old? That kid is bigger than my 22mo daughter!
The good thing is, he can walk up to her when he is ready to nurse.
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08-31-2007 at 08:59 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:59 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
It isn't? Confused I am not sure what you are basing that statement on.
Statistics? I have argued this point in the podium before, if you really need to see the statistics, breastfeeding is more of an anomaly than the norm.
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finzz2dlft
08-31-2007 at 09:03 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:03 AM.
Quote from KimbersTimber :
Statistics? I have argued this point in the podium before, if you really need to see the statistics, breastfeeding is more of an anomaly than the norm.
Yes, a link to some sort of statistic would be helpful. I have never heard that it is more the CURRENT norm to bottle feed than breast feed. Back in the 1950's, perhaps, but not now.
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 09:05 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:05 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
It isn't? Confused I am not sure what you are basing that statement on.
I have never seen breastfeeding done in the public. It's only started couple years ago when medical study done that babies can benefit from mother's breast milk has it really taken off.

It might be the norm from parents who breastfed their kids perspective. But from those outside of it they don't see it at all.
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08-31-2007 at 09:07 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:07 AM.
Quote from TigerStar :
The good thing is, he can walk up to her when he is ready to nurse.
You just brought back a disturbing repressed image from many years ago. When I was in college, I had a part time job at a pet store in the mall. One day while at the register, I looked out into the mall just in time to see a cow of a woman sitting on the bench. Her 3 year old son walks up to her, lifts up her shirt and starts going to town on her breast.

That, my dear friends, was a disgusting moment.
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finzz2dlft
08-31-2007 at 09:08 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:08 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
I have never seen breastfeeding done in the public. It's only started couple years ago when medical study done that babies can benefit from mother's breast milk has it really taken off.

Interesting. I am 34 years old, and my mother breast fed me because Doctors at that time told her "breast is best." I nursed my son, who is now 12. I believe that the benefits of breast milk have been studied and known for more than just "a couple of years."
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wildtama
08-31-2007 at 09:14 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:14 AM.
I think that most moms who nurse don't go around sharing that info with everyone, they are discreet about it.

I would imagine that someone would get flashed if this lady wasn't wearing a specially-made bfing top. Dontknow
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AggieMom
08-31-2007 at 09:16 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:16 AM.
Quote from wildtama :
I think that most moms who nurse don't go around sharing that info with everyone, they are discreet about it.

I would imagine that someone would get flashed if this lady wasn't wearing a specially-made bfing top. Dontknow
Actually, I had a harder time being discreet in a nursing top. I never wore one outside the house. It was easier for me to stay covered in just a regular shirt - the stretchier the better.
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 09:19 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:19 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
Interesting. I am 34 years old, and my mother breast fed me because Doctors at that time told her "breast is best." I nursed my son, who is now 12. I believe that the benefits of breast milk have been studied and known for more than just "a couple of years."
I remember seeing on TV couple years ago about the benefit and then it became a big deal... I think that's what finally started breast feeding movement and drove the government to add laws to include breastfeeding.

I guess what I am saying once people start seeing their aunts, sisters, mother breastfeeding their kids it will become the norm. Wink
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08-31-2007 at 09:24 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:24 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
Yes, a link to some sort of statistic would be helpful. I have never heard that it is more the CURRENT norm to bottle feed than breast feed. Back in the 1950's, perhaps, but not now.
http://www.kellymom.com/writings/bf-numbers.html
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finzz2dlft
08-31-2007 at 09:25 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:25 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
I remember seeing on TV couple years ago about the benefit and then it became a big deal... I think that's what finally started breast feeding movement and drove the government to add laws to include breastfeeding.

I guess what I am saying once people start seeing their aunts, sisters, mother breastfeeding their kids it will become the norm. Wink
Well, in my case, it's just the opposite. I breast fed, my friends breast fed, my relatives breast fed........in my world, breast feeding *is* the norm.
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08-31-2007 at 09:25 AM.
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Quote from wildtama :
I think that most moms who nurse don't go around sharing that info with everyone, they are discreet about it.

I would imagine that someone would get flashed if this lady wasn't wearing a specially-made bfing top. Dontknow

Iagree I think what is bringing it to the fore at this point is that there have been a few moms who are being shown the door due to someone's complaint of not covering herself and it's gone to State level. Those of us who nursed in previous years either did it discreetly or didn't make a State case out of it when asked to leave.

While I'm a proponent of women being allowed to nurse whenever the baby is hungry, I will say that I definitely would NOT want to be sitting in a public place and have a woman start pumping milk for a bottle feed in front of everyone. The laws that were posted previously seem to allow for that, in case anyone missed it, if I'm reading it correctly.
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08-31-2007 at 09:29 AM.
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Unless I am seeing something different from what you are seeing, those numbers look like breast feeding is on the rise over bottle feeding.

Breastfeeding Rates in the U.S. per the CDC

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In Hospital
(%) 6 mo
(%) 12 mo
(%) 18 mo
(%)

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2001 65.1
59.3
(7 days) 27.0
7.9
12.3


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2002 -- -- -- --
2003 70.9
62.5

(7 days)
36.2
14.2


17.2
5.7
Goal for 2010
(USA) 75.0 50.0 25.0
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08-31-2007 at 09:31 AM.
Can you make cheese out of breast milk?
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