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December 2, 2007 at
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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Hint: It's the same one you get when you ask why innocent children are stricken with terminal diseases or senselessly killed.
I have seen and felt reasons why I believe what I believe.
Ultimately, I revert back to my original choice. It is each person's decision. You will choose to believe what you want to believe and I will choose to believe what I want to believe. But ultimately someone will pay the consequences, either here on earth or in the after life.
I'm agnostic. I don't believe in commercial, ahem, I mean organized religion. To me that doesn't make me a bad person. I think I know right from wrong and generally do what's right. I love and honor my wife and our marriage. I love and honor my parents and brother. I try to treat others like I want to be treated. I give to charities. Etc, etc, etc. It doesn't take belief in a higher power to be a good person.
Edit: My point is, how can anyone say they know for sure the rules of getting into 'heaven'?
Why would anyone put themselves through that torment?
So why do some people believe and others don't? Delusion? How's that answer sitting with you?
I'm agnostic. I don't believe in commercial, ahem, I mean organized religion. To me that doesn't make me a bad person. I think I know right from wrong and generally do what's right. I love and honor my wife and our marriage. I love and honor my parents and brother. I try to treat others like I want to be treated. I give to charities. Etc, etc, etc. It doesn't take belief in a higher power to be a good person.
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Why would anyone put themselves through that torment?
(and for your example, you could also say law, but that would just be your example. Even criminals have fear -- fear of being caught. Also you would not want to run for your whole life.) I know what you mean though.
Delusional might not always be the exact right word for every person, but it's close enough for government work. Irrational would work for some people better than delusional maybe. Ignorant for others. Some people probably get saddled with that kind of belief just because they're not very into thinking for themselves and their parents forced it on them. Etc, etc.
(and for your example, you could also say law, but that would just be your example. Even criminals have fear -- fear of being caught. Also you would not want to run for your whole life.) I know what you mean though.
Who created the concept of good? Why do we have it? If there is not a being that is higher than us to create the concept of good, would "good" even exist?
I guess my question is, without a higher being setting the standard of what a moral lifestyle is, how did we even develop that on our own?
Who created the concept of good? Why do we have it? If there is not a being that is higher than us to create the concept of good, would "good" even exist?
I guess my question is, without a higher being setting the standard of what a moral lifestyle is, how did we even develop that on our own?
If there is not a being that is higher than us to create the concept of good, would "good" even exist? Sure why not, if everyone was doing "bad" things, the human race as a whole would not survive. If everyone went around murdering people, or hitting their spouses, or killing their parents, people wouldn't get married, people wouldn't want kids, and society would die out.
People do "good" things behind the idea of existence. If you do bad things, you'll die off. Evolution, same thing as why do we walk straight, and not on 4 legs like monkey's did?
I guess my question is, without a higher being setting the standard of what a moral lifestyle is, how did we even develop that on our own? 2 things: wanting to continue to exist, and evolution.
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Fear of getting caught, fear of going to jail, fear of killing someone else (people do care), fear of etc.
A better person by societies standards.
On a side note, I bet people who grew up in large cities would argue against the whole god thing, and people who grew up in sub-urban america, would argue pro-god.