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December 2, 2007 at
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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Who created the concept of good? Why do we have it? If there is not a being that is higher than us to create the concept of good, would "good" even exist?
I guess my question is, without a higher being setting the standard of what a moral lifestyle is, how did we even develop that on our own?
Really... right and wrong are somewhat common sense. I think if you dropped 10 newborn babies off on an island by themselves... they'd discover that lying sucks, murder ain't cool, and stealing does not make for friendly neighbors. Which part would you be tripped up on if the good book hadn't told you?
Edit: Well I should add... people would learn these things for themselves... they wouldn't just be born knowing it. But they'd be stolen from, and learn they didn't like it... they'd murder someone... and find that it left a horrible feeling. Etc..
Really... right and wrong are somewhat common sense. I think if you dropped 10 newborn babies off on an island by themselves... they'd discover that lying sucks, murder ain't cool, and stealing does not make for friendly neighbors. Which part would you be tripped up on if the good book hadn't told you?
If a parent doesn't teach their child good moral conduct, the child will take what is not his, will bite and hurt others, won't bother with sharing because they don't even know what that is, and who cares about procreating when you're new to the world anyway?
If a parent doesn't teach their child good moral conduct, the child will take what is not his, will bite and hurt others, won't bother with sharing because they don't even know what that is, and who cares about procreating when you're new to the world anyway?
Yes, parents teach what they know... they know being smacked in the face sucks. It doesn't take a bible to teach them that. They've probably experienced it for themselves. Sure society plays a role. We all share in what we've learned. But please please please point out one single teaching of the bible that is a conclusion we would not have naturally come to all on our own.
Yes, parents teach what they know... they know being smacked in the face sucks. It doesn't take a bible to teach them that. They've probably experienced it for themselves. Sure society plays a role. We all share in what we've learned. But please please please point out one single teaching of the bible that is a conclusion we would not have naturally come to all on our own.
Sometimes it does take others to point out the obvious.
But ultimately someone will pay the consequences, either here on earth or in the after life.
Again I'll ask, how can anyone know for sure what the rules are on getting into an afterlife (assuming it even exists)?
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If a parent doesn't teach their child good moral conduct, the child will take what is not his, will bite and hurt others, won't bother with sharing because they don't even know what that is, and who cares about procreating when you're new to the world anyway?
If you were brought up religious, then you think that god created the earth, and etc.
If you weren't, then you believe in one of many things (possibly including dinosaurs and evolution and the big-bang theory). So in that case, how did people live without religion?
hence my OP message stands, delusional...
Cynic/Pessimist.
Right you are. Belief only exists in the absence of proof. If there were proof, educating people about God would be as simple as mathematics.
So why do some people believe and others don't? Delusion? How's that answer sitting with you?
it could be the same thing
so yoy dont see me or others trying to mass convert into believrs or asking tithing for my alien domicile of whorshipping
Perhaps a better way to ask is, when was religion "invented?"
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