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December 2, 2007 at
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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you dont get the right to feel insulted, u have been warned...
so, peeps, if you dont believe in god, do you feel that ones that do are delusional?
a lot of people will sight karma or other things as 'he got what he had coming' but i argue that it's all a mathematical randomness that on a small scale might seem like karma
perfect example is: when you play poker and u push with the best hand, a LOT of times, you can predict/be so sure that the card will come that will beat you even if the chance of it coming is less than 1:6. when the card comes, some might argue it as karma, but i argue that its all random, just on a small scale randomness doesn't work
discuss....
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That would be like me putting my faith in man. I've no faith in man... well other than the obvious of being able to make and break laws that man or God creates. To only live by societal laws would be akin to calling society god. Tithe to societal gods by paying taxes. Fear of societal gods by not doing what I want when I want to lest I be thrown in prison. My lone God offers an out which society gods cannot. Delusional to some maybe, but that's where the wheat and the chafe separate.
There are times I wish I was a religious man. I know it will make it that much harder when the day comes when I have to face a severe loss in my life. To this day, the only loss I have had to face is my grandparents, a college teammate, and a cat. The college teammate was the hardest because he was only 21 years old.
That's an example of evangelism. Now my God says that there's absolutely nothing I can do to convert someone. So anything I do or say doesn't affect my spot in heaven. Why then, would I or any other believer in this world want to tell you about God?
belief is aliens have exact same % of possibility imo
Same reason why if I believed in aliens, I would try to tell as many people as possible also -- So they can share in my joy.
obviously i have other fears but they arent like the kinda fear u mean, as in going to hell
sure, i fear of the car crash, etc
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Science has proof, thus it's not blind faith.
I believe that proof can occur beyond science. We are such a scientifically based community... what about things that happen that have no explanation? You can't prove that it is scientifically possible... just the same as I can't prove that it is scientifically impossible.
There are always things that will happen in this world that are unexplainable. So why are you so convinced that it is always scientific in nature? Why can't it be God? Is it because you are more well-versed in science and not in the aspects of faith that you feel this way? Does that make it right?
I'm also not an aethesit, I'm agnostic (meaning I believe that there could be a god, but unless you prove it to me in some way other than faith, I wont believe you).
EDIT: I know enough about my religion to form an opinion. I also know some things about the Christian religion. That's about it, (i mean I know what everyone else/the media tells us about Budhism, Muslim, etc. but not beyond that).
I also believe in a systematic theology based on a fallen nature and God's method of reconciliation with his creation based on a combination of love, God's Will, and human free will.
There is certainly faith involved. But, my theology is a logical flow based on a set of starting values found in scripture and observation, towards an end with God reconciling us to Him by acts only He could do.
I'm also not an aethesit, I'm agnostic (meaning I believe that there could be a god, but unless you prove it to me in some way other than faith, I wont believe you).
Oh, and the Jewish school is so interesting! Did you have a bar mitzvah? I had a friend who had a bat mitzvah and I read some passages in it. I also went to a few Hebrew classes... it was so cool.
I also believe in a systematic theology based on a fallen nature and God's method of reconciliation with his creation based on a combination of love, God's Will, and human free will.
There is certainly faith involved. But, my theology is a logical flow based on a set of starting values found in scripture and observation, towards an end with God reconciling us to Him by acts only He could do.
There are times I wish I was a religious man.
This is why I don't buy the "believers are just delusional" argument. Believers have something that is desirable. And I don't think that answer is "delusion."
I think you and I are on the same page.
Same reason why if I believed in aliens, I would try to tell as many people as possible also -- So they can share in my joy.
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And yes, I had one. I went to Israel to the Western Wailing Wall (actually went for 2 weeks, 1/2 day spend there doing my bar mitzvah, and the rest was sight seeing