So What Does Everyone Think About Deflate-Gate?

So which situation is more far-fetched?

Ball attendant sneaks balls into bathroom, takes out the balls, uses a needle (just a needle on its own) to almost perfectly deflate the balls 1 PSI by some sort of counting algorithm and perfect needle placement (too far in, and you'll drain the air way too fast, not far enough in, and it will take forever), mistake one of the deflated balls for a properly inflated ball, packs them all back up, and is out of the bathroom in 90 seconds.

or

The ideal gas law happened, and the pressure inside the balls decreased due to a temperature decrease.

Let's see....

I'm betting you're not familiar with occam's razor.

Do you even know where they officially tested the balls? What if they tested the balls back in the locker room that is temperature controlled to the same locker room the Patriots filled the balls at?

So you don't need a crystal ball to see what is going to happen with Deflategate. The NFL is going to let it die. They are never going to interview Tom Brady. They are never going to speak with any of the players. They are never going to release any of their findings. They are going to just hope it goes away and everybody forgets about it. Why? Because it makes the NFL look bad. As we've been reporting from the jump this was an inside job. The Patriots were never at fault. The Patriots never did anything wrong. The NFL, Colts and Ravens ran a sting operation that failed miserably. And now the plan is falling apart as the seams as the rest of the National Media is slowly catching up to Barstool. Here are the facts.

1. The Ravens told the Colts to complain about the footballs because John Harbaugh was mad Tom Brady told him to "learn the rulebook" after whining about our formations.

2. The NFL planned on checking the air pressure of the footballs before the game started.

3. The refs never checked the actual temperature with a pressure gauge before the game.

5. The NFL risked letting the Colts play at a disadvantage in the AFC Title game if they truly thought the Patriots were gaining a competitive advantage because they wanted to trap Belichick.

5. There was only 1 ball that was 2 PSI underweight and that was the actual ball the Colts intercepted. AKA – The only ball they touched. The rest were 1 PSI underweight which is to be expected. Is it a strange coincidence the 1 ball they had access too was the only one that was 2 PSI's underweight or was their foul play involved? I'll let you be the judge of that.

6. Former Jets Executive Mike Kensil who was with the Jets when Belichick bolted for the Pats is the current NFL Director of Operations. He was the guy on the sidelines who spearheaded this investigation. He has a long open grudge against the Patriots

7. The NFL leaked false information about this investigation saying all the balls were way underweight to Chris Mortenson and then refused to comment on it any further to put the Pats under a cloud of suspicion.This sets off a weeklong firestorm of accusations.

8. Belichick and Brady deny any wrong doing. Belichick and many 3rd party scientists confirm that losing 1 to 2 PSI is normal and to be expected.

9. The NFL is still silent. Almost like they enjoy the rumor mongering they started.

10. The National Media is now questioning whether the NFL had ulterior motives.

11. Everybody knows the NFL tried to frame the Patriots

So that pretty much catches people up in a nutshell. That's why the NFL can't be let off the hook here. The way they handled this almost makes the Ray Rice thing seem competent in comparison. Obviously it's a far less serious issue, but still alarming to say the least. That's why the Patriots can't let this go. Roger Goodell and league office is out of control. We need a full investigation into how this could go down like this. Why they'd try to smear the Patriots a week before the biggest sporting spectacle in the world. Is this who we want running the most popular sport in America? Two faced vengeful liars? Lots of questions need to be asked and I want to hear the answers. I'd like to say the integrity of the NFL is on the line, but I'm not sure they have any left.

What?

Do you think that the balls' internal air temperature magically reaches the same temperature as its environment instantaneously?

That's not how it works.

The Patriots should not let Deflategate die after the Super Bowl [barstoolsports.com]

As soon as I saw a headline that the investigation will take "several weeks" I was convinced of your article - they are drawing it out to let it blow over and everyone forgets about it - either not saying anything, or doing some very low key press release saying they didn't find anything.

There are a LOT of omissions that are just too glaring for the story to be believable:
- No interviews of Brady, etc
- No records (even verbal) of when the balls were measured before the game
- Vague rules of how the balls are to be checked

This all reeks of the NFL wanting to backtrack on "early reports". Whether you all see it as a conspiracy or not is another issue

Yeah running the numbers, from 80F to 50F (which are fair assumptions for locker room and on-the-field temps), a 12.5 PSI ball would "deflate" to 11 PSI and a 13.5 PSI ball to 11.9 PSI (assuming the volume of the ball is constant). - or roughly 1.5 PSI or so (the loss is actually a percentage).

What would the math work out to if a game were being played somewhere that was actually cold instead of 50F?

Let's go back to the "Ice Bowl" where the temperature was -15F. If the rule had been in place back then what would the initial pressure have to have been set at to keep the ball above the !2.5psi on the field?

Nothing to do with this controversy, I'm just curious if it is even realistically possible to stay within the rules. There are many games played at temperatures right around freezing or in the twenties.

I don't give two farks.

Or one.

Or a fractional amount of one.

Both teams might have been using the same game balls back then. If so, there's no advantage either way. They may of had to refill the ball(s) outside during the game if there was a loss of air pressure. I'm guessing that every thrown ball felt like a rock for either team.

As soon as I saw a headline that the investigation will take "several weeks" I was convinced of your article - they are drawing it out to let it blow over and everyone forgets about it - either not saying anything, or doing some very low key press release saying they didn't find anything.

There are a LOT of omissions that are just too glaring for the story to be believable:
- No interviews of Brady, etc
- No records (even verbal) of when the balls were measured before the game
- Vague rules of how the balls are to be checked

This all reeks of the NFL wanting to backtrack on "early reports". Whether you all see it as a conspiracy or not is another issue

The second #5 shouldn't be overlooked either. I did not know this one until I read this article: "There was only 1 ball that was 2 PSI underweight and that was the actual ball the Colts intercepted. AKA – The only ball they touched. The rest were 1 PSI underweight which is to be expected. Is it a strange coincidence the 1 ball they had access too was the only one that was 2 PSI's underweight or was their foul play involved? I'll let you be the judge of that."

Don't you think it hurts the NFL that their premier team over the last 15 that already has been found cheating before has been accused of cheating again? If the most winningest team in the last 15 years is viewed in the publics eye as repeat offenders doesn't it take a little bit away from the credibility of the game?

If it was thermodynamics and the league was worried about public perception (since all the criticism from the Rice case they have been) couldn't the league have tested the thermodynamics the first few days and said that while the Patriots balls were below regulation it's a natural occurrence and they will adjust the rules in the off season?

Yeah 10 balls right around 1 psi low supposedly 1 2 psi and 1 0 psi. To me that just shows when you only have 90 seconds you can miss 1 ball and take air out of another ball twice by mistake.

But you're not jumping to conclusions, remember.

No I said I'm not jumping on the thermodynamics conclusion until there is more evidence to point that way.