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The Celiac discussion thread....no wheat allowed!!

17,745 1,470 February 4, 2009 at 08:46 PM in Sad
Celiac....I haz it!

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This sucks really freaking bad.




Anyone else in the same boat? I literally found out an hour ago...have lots of researching to do.



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07-30-2009 at 08:32 AM.
07-30-2009 at 08:32 AM.
Quote from PassionateGray :
I still haven't gotten tested and all my symptoms point to celiac. Bleh. I guess I better call my doctor.
The symptoms for celiac can match the symptoms for a ton of other diseases. The symptoms vary GREATLY from person to person. Also, some people have wheat-intolerance (not celiac), which is much better (no damage to the intestine, and it's only wheat -- not rye and barley).

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07-30-2009 at 01:17 PM.
07-30-2009 at 01:17 PM.
Quote from PassionateGray :
I still haven't gotten tested and all my symptoms point to celiac. Bleh. I guess I better call my doctor.
Not trying to nag you laugh out loud But you need to do this as soon as possible. Another celiac I know put this off for years. He suspected it, but didn't want to go on the diet. He ended up having some pretty serious health problems as a result.

Look on the bright side, it might be a relief to know you don't have it..

Get it done soon. Nag, Nag, Nag laugh out loud
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08-10-2009 at 07:16 AM.
08-10-2009 at 07:16 AM.
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I want to add to the discussion.. if you are a celiac, you should not "cheat" at all. The damage done to your intestines gives you a high risk for cancer and other problems. Eating gluten does serious damage to your insides.
That's one thing I found to be a big problem. I've read that too and theres a big tendency for people who have it and the people around them to just say "Whats the big deal? A little gluten wont hurt you!"

Basically you come off as the bad guy, food-Nazi while the other people try to make you into some uptight crazy person and they even get hysterical about it when you insist NO GLUTEN. I had this experience several times and its really annoying as hell when you spend weeks and months and tons of effort trying to avoid gluten for someone and then people are hysterically and viciously trying to belittle you and talk someone into eating something with gluten in it. Its criminally stupid.

In this case it was especially criminally stupid because the only hope for this person to get her platelets down was hopefuly a gluten free diet if she had celiac , so I tried to make a diet that was completely gluten free to see if her platelets would come down when she was retested in the following 2 months.

Im actually trying to find a gastro guy who knows somethng about celiac right now to confirm this person has celiac, I mainly jumped to this no-gluten diet because its the only real option of avoiding chemo. I HOPE she has celiac disease because the alternative is chemo and its the only option I have now to try to lower her platelet count and the problem is, there's a really long wait for gastro docs and finding one thats decent makes it even harder.

On the topic of docs --- I've found the only hope you have is to read up on any problems yourself and be totally informed. You have to argue with the docs and present a reasonable case for doing various tests as well as know what tests and other treatments are available for you to have any chance of talking them into doing any of them. Its the only way to know what is missing too if they dont bring something up.

Another bad thing about the foot dragging is you waste tons of valuable time jumping from doc to doc and it also gets confusing if one doc finally agrees to do one test and another agrees to do another. If its an emergency like Sudden Hearing Loss which they say should be treated as soon as possible within 2 weeks max ---- it can be tragic. And another thing -- specialists are in short supply here. Not only cant you find many docs who are willing to do lots of tests and who are up on the topics , with neurologists and gastro docs --- it can be a super long wait. Gastro -- a neurologist I found who is so far, fantastic called a gastro doc and the earliest time was in February. One guy wouldnt take Medicare.

One question --- is there a big difference in care with Medicare and other insurance firms? Is Medicare much worse? I assume if you are rich and can pay zillions out of pocket , the care is fantastic. Then maybe it is like House.
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08-10-2009 at 07:30 AM.
08-10-2009 at 07:30 AM.
Quote from SlickChik :
It is an autoimmune disease that it brought on by digesting food with gluten, it attacks the villi in your intestine which can cause all sorts of problems (i.e. malnourishment).
It not just digestion.... My grandmothers never got under control until she realized there was gluten and in her toothpaste.

She's also gotten really bad after helping bake cookies with gluten flower.

So don't inhale Wink
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08-10-2009 at 07:34 AM.
08-10-2009 at 07:34 AM.
Quote from radford :
Im actually trying to find a gastro guy who knows somethng about celiac right now to confirm this person has celiac, I mainly jumped to this no-gluten diet because its the only real option of avoiding chemo. I HOPE she has celiac disease because the alternative is chemo and its the only option I have now to try to lower her platelet count and the problem is theres a really long wait for gastro docs and finding one thats decent makes it even harder.
Why would celiac have anything to do with platelets? Am I missing something? Platelets aren't typically part of the immune system their a clotting agent.
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08-10-2009 at 03:59 PM.
08-10-2009 at 03:59 PM.
Quote from fbskiracer :
Why would celiac have anything to do with platelets? Am I missing something? Platelets aren't typically part of the immune system their a clotting agent.
Basically as I understand it, there are two main categories --- a reactive cause in which any infection etc., causes higher platelet counts than normal. One cause in this category often cited is possibly Celiac disease. The other category is some direct problem with the blood like leukemia or a non-leukemia abnormality with the bone marrow.

Now from what Ive read I thought it said even the latter was a diagnosis of exclusion, you reasonably eliminate any other causes then you narrow it down to the bone marrow.

In this case her platelets are sky high -- 1-2 million. The normal range I think is around 600-640 K. This supposedly can cause strokes and heart attacks. Im not even sure on that. Obviously it sounds logical but is there any proof that it is the case? I see it stated everywhere on med sites and docs say it but Id like to know if its actually the case in real life that people with higher platelets are all dying of strokes. The reason I say this is because many people who are found to have abnormalities have lived with them for decades. That doesnt mean ALL people like that will not have strokes but Id like to know if there are stats to back it up because they are putting people on chemo for decades which can itself cause leukemia and other cancers as well as tons of other complications.

See heres a thing on Celiac, Anemia and High Platelets - and sure, it seems like its unusual to have really sky high numbers just from Celiac but in this case they are very high due to Celiac and anemia.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/...id=2329657
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08-12-2009 at 12:38 PM.
08-12-2009 at 12:38 PM.
So I had the biopsy done on Friday. I just called to check and the results are in. Now I just wait for the doctor to call me. :bitesnails:
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08-12-2009 at 12:42 PM.
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Quote from rayzac :
So I had the biopsy done on Friday. I just called to check and the results are in. Now I just wait for the doctor to call me. :bitesnails:
Good luck, but seriously -- it's not the end of the world.

Did they do an actual biopsy? or were you allowed to swallow the camera pill? I've had both, and the second is way cooler.
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08-12-2009 at 12:47 PM.
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Quote from Fallacy :
Good luck, but seriously -- it's not the end of the world.

Did they do an actual biopsy? or were you allowed to swallow the camera pill? I've had both, and the second is way cooler.
Thanks. I just got the call. Confirmed Sadwalk

Yes, they did the biopsy. vomit
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08-12-2009 at 02:04 PM.
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Quote from rayzac :
Thanks. I just got the call. Confirmed Sadwalk

Yes, they did the biopsy. vomit
Comfort

There's lots of good advice in this thread, there are also other forums that deal with questions and you can talk to people and seek personal advice.

This is one of the better ones IMO http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free...hp?act=idx, but there are others.




I'll trade you warning points for bad advice? deal? laugh out loud
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08-12-2009 at 02:10 PM.
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Thanks. I just got the call. Confirmed Sadwalk

Yes, they did the biopsy. vomit
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08-12-2009 at 05:56 PM.
08-12-2009 at 05:56 PM.
welcome to the club hug You are now a Silly Yak.
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08-12-2009 at 06:10 PM.
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Quote from rayzac :
Thanks. I just got the call. Confirmed Sadwalk

Yes, they did the biopsy. vomit
hug that sucks. On the plus side it sounds like with greater exposure and understanding of this issue there is also a greater variety of gluten-free foods and drinks available. Comfort
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08-12-2009 at 06:27 PM.
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Thanks hug

The one lady at work has been gluten free for a bit over a year so we are talking and she is giving me lots of good recipes and tips. She also is going to bring me GF cupcakes for my birthday Whee
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08-12-2009 at 07:30 PM.
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Quote from rayzac :
Thanks hug

The one lady at work has been gluten free for a bit over a year so we are talking and she is giving me lots of good recipes and tips. She also is going to bring me GF cupcakes for my birthday Whee
If you are by deerfield, they have an entire GF bakery there that has the best stuff I've had so far.

http://www.deerfieldsglutenfree.com/

The first week or so after I found out I just ate salad and grilled chicken. I use my george foreman all the time nod
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