Different/higher level speaker, and easier to listen to for long periods. That being said, you need to audition to know what sound you prefer.
Actually the older klipsch horns had some excellent speakers. Not my cup of tea, but there's a reason they can sell crap speakers for some much nowadays. Bose too has that going for them. Reputation was solid. This is a higher end speaker than either of those Klipsch's IMO (explained below). It's smoother, but might not get as loud at the same levels, and needs a sub to shine IMO. For your situation, I think you got the right speakers. There's a ton of amps that will work fine. I switched from a full sized ATI unit (125 watts) to a 20 watt orb audio unit. It's tiny, it runs much cooler, and it's plenty for nearfield. My 12" sub carries all the lows, but is also overkill.
You would be right only in that there is no budget line now, but these are supposed to be the higher end line (Reference), and are an all around better speaker series. Since Infinity was gobbled up by the Harman Group, Infinity has been kind of 2nd fiddle when Infinity arguably had the best lineage of their whole line up. I had the P152's, and liked them. Best budget speaker still IMO, but these are better. Both need subs to really shine IMO. I was wishing Frys would carry these for some great deals, but I expect them to continue selling these direct, etc. The reason these may stick around is that after designing, and testing a product, the actual production, and parts of a speaker isn't that expensive. Check DIY forums, and you'll see a list of $100 parts for high end speakers. That's why you continue to see discontinued speakers like the Kef Q100's on sale. They keep running out, and when people stop buying they lower prices, because there's less than $100 in parts, and they are still getting $250+ for them.
Yes, and you could save $30 and go with the smaller R152's if you have a small room, and are running a sub. Both can use the sub, but go bigger if you aren't getting one.
Yes save $30, or go even cheaper IMO.
Yes don't need much for surrounds. Go smaller, or get even cheaper speakers, and put the balance towards a better subwoofer.
QUICK NOOB ADVICE FOR BUILDING AN HT SYSTEM.
BUDGET: 1k or much less
SUBWOOFER around 50% because the subwoofer makes the experience. Some can't have loud/low woofers so they can go with a cheaper unit.
SPEAKERS 25-35%+ depending on use. If music is more important, then invest heavier here. Otherwise the subwoofer is what counts. Mainly focus on the front 2 speakers, and a matching center. After that you can get away with cheaper rears.
RECEIVER: remaining budget (along with cables). People buy $500+ receivers with $500 speakers, and $200 sub. That sucks next to a $150 receiver with cheaper speakers, and a good sub, or 2. So get what you need, and spend more here if you have to have certain features, but don't trip up. This always 3rd on the list because it doesn't affect things as much as the speakers, and especially the subwoofer.
CABLES: Monoprice. Any 12-16 Gauge will work great for speakers in any budget minded application. 12 isn't much more, and you don't need much usually. Surrounds can easily get away with 16 gauge. Don't get caught up by marketing. You can not discern the difference between a $2 cable, and a $100+ one. It will look nicer, but that's it.
Example of decent budget build using SD:
SVS PB1000 $4-$500 depending on sale
Pioneer BS22 pair $75ish at frys x2
Pioneer C22 $75ish at frys
Whatever receiver is on sale for around $150. I'm partial to Yamaha, and Denon, but it's fun to research. Remember, the speakers can make a huge difference in sound, the receiver, at this level, is minor at most.
If you get everything on sale it's like $750ish. You can do better buying used of course, but that takes research, and maybe more time than waiting for deals on new gear.
With these speakers, I'd consider a pair of these, the matching center, and a pair of pioneers BS22 for rears. Then a sub from SVS, HSU, Rythmik, Outlaw, etc... That frys 15" Klipsch is great if it ever comes back for $400, and you have the space. Then I'd grab whichever receiver goes on sale because it's least important pieces. Measure out your room, add a few feet to each run, and order enough to cover your room. Most connections, are HDMI nowadays, and you should have plenty, but if you need RCA's, optical, etc., there's plenty of cheap ones that will work.
Lastly, or the 1st thing to do is audition speakers if you can. It's not about the deal. It's about getting speakers you like. I don't like Klispch, but you might love them. I only know this from listening to them.
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I highly recommend the R162 bookshelves. I'm a speaker fanatic, and have owned and build many designs. The 162 is so neutral, non-fatiguing, excellent imaging and clear extended highs. They look beautiful and the bass while not substantial, is surprisingly good and very tight.
I also have the large center (amazing), and r253 towers.
These 162s have been out of stock for so long, that I'm actually surprised they're back in stock.
Would the R152 speakers work with a small 50x2 watt amplifier as a desktop setup? Really wanted the Klipsch RP-150m speakers (were $170 pair) at Fry's over the weekend but missed that deal.
Hey I'm a moron, do these need an amp? If so, anyone got a suggestion for a good budget amp to go with them?
Yes they require amplification which a Receiver will provide, but there are so many Receivers out there with so many levels of functionality that it's hard to give you a recommendation without knowing more about your setup.
I got an entire 5 speaker setup last time this deal was around. LOVE THEM! Seriously the best bang of the buck. I bought a pair of R162 as front and a pair of R152 as surround. I also got the larger center speaker first, but had to return it for the smaller one because it's HUGE--it wouldn't fit in any of the TV stands I was looking at, and my TV isn't mounted so it can't be put on the top either. The R162s are also big, but doable. My advice would simply be BUY THEM. But also note the dimensions if you don't want to deal with return (which is super easy with Harman Kardon btw)
If you're looking for a sub, I wouldn't recommend the Infinity one listed here as there were posts complaining it was not that impressive. If you want a good sub to match the quality of these speakers, wait a month or so for the black friday sale from SVS. I got their PB1000 for $400 last time. Awesome stuff.
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Actually the older klipsch horns had some excellent speakers. Not my cup of tea, but there's a reason they can sell crap speakers for some much nowadays. Bose too has that going for them. Reputation was solid. This is a higher end speaker than either of those Klipsch's IMO (explained below). It's smoother, but might not get as loud at the same levels, and needs a sub to shine IMO. For your situation, I think you got the right speakers. There's a ton of amps that will work fine. I switched from a full sized ATI unit (125 watts) to a 20 watt orb audio unit. It's tiny, it runs much cooler, and it's plenty for nearfield. My 12" sub carries all the lows, but is also overkill.
You would be right only in that there is no budget line now, but these are supposed to be the higher end line (Reference), and are an all around better speaker series. Since Infinity was gobbled up by the Harman Group, Infinity has been kind of 2nd fiddle when Infinity arguably had the best lineage of their whole line up. I had the P152's, and liked them. Best budget speaker still IMO, but these are better. Both need subs to really shine IMO. I was wishing Frys would carry these for some great deals, but I expect them to continue selling these direct, etc. The reason these may stick around is that after designing, and testing a product, the actual production, and parts of a speaker isn't that expensive. Check DIY forums, and you'll see a list of $100 parts for high end speakers. That's why you continue to see discontinued speakers like the Kef Q100's on sale. They keep running out, and when people stop buying they lower prices, because there's less than $100 in parts, and they are still getting $250+ for them.
Yes, and you could save $30 and go with the smaller R152's if you have a small room, and are running a sub. Both can use the sub, but go bigger if you aren't getting one.
Yes save $30, or go even cheaper IMO.
Yes don't need much for surrounds. Go smaller, or get even cheaper speakers, and put the balance towards a better subwoofer.
QUICK NOOB ADVICE FOR BUILDING AN HT SYSTEM.
BUDGET: 1k or much less
SUBWOOFER around 50% because the subwoofer makes the experience. Some can't have loud/low woofers so they can go with a cheaper unit.
SPEAKERS 25-35%+ depending on use. If music is more important, then invest heavier here. Otherwise the subwoofer is what counts. Mainly focus on the front 2 speakers, and a matching center. After that you can get away with cheaper rears.
RECEIVER: remaining budget (along with cables). People buy $500+ receivers with $500 speakers, and $200 sub. That sucks next to a $150 receiver with cheaper speakers, and a good sub, or 2. So get what you need, and spend more here if you have to have certain features, but don't trip up. This always 3rd on the list because it doesn't affect things as much as the speakers, and especially the subwoofer.
CABLES: Monoprice. Any 12-16 Gauge will work great for speakers in any budget minded application. 12 isn't much more, and you don't need much usually. Surrounds can easily get away with 16 gauge. Don't get caught up by marketing. You can not discern the difference between a $2 cable, and a $100+ one. It will look nicer, but that's it.
Example of decent budget build using SD:
SVS PB1000 $4-$500 depending on sale
Pioneer BS22 pair $75ish at frys x2
Pioneer C22 $75ish at frys
Whatever receiver is on sale for around $150. I'm partial to Yamaha, and Denon, but it's fun to research. Remember, the speakers can make a huge difference in sound, the receiver, at this level, is minor at most.
If you get everything on sale it's like $750ish. You can do better buying used of course, but that takes research, and maybe more time than waiting for deals on new gear.
With these speakers, I'd consider a pair of these, the matching center, and a pair of pioneers BS22 for rears. Then a sub from SVS, HSU, Rythmik, Outlaw, etc... That frys 15" Klipsch is great if it ever comes back for $400, and you have the space. Then I'd grab whichever receiver goes on sale because it's least important pieces. Measure out your room, add a few feet to each run, and order enough to cover your room. Most connections, are HDMI nowadays, and you should have plenty, but if you need RCA's, optical, etc., there's plenty of cheap ones that will work.
Lastly, or the 1st thing to do is audition speakers if you can. It's not about the deal. It's about getting speakers you like. I don't like Klispch, but you might love them. I only know this from listening to them.
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I also have the large center (amazing), and r253 towers.
These 162s have been out of stock for so long, that I'm actually surprised they're back in stock.
AT A GLANCE:
- 1" (25mm) CMMDTM tweeter
- 6.5" CMMD High-Output Woofer
- 20 - 150W Recommended Amplifier Power
WHAT'S IN THE BOX:- 2x Infinity Reference R162 2-Way Bookshelf Speakers
- 2 x Speaker Grilles (1 for Each Speaker)
- 8 x Rubber Cushions
- Limited 5-Year Warranty
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If you're looking for a sub, I wouldn't recommend the Infinity one listed here as there were posts complaining it was not that impressive. If you want a good sub to match the quality of these speakers, wait a month or so for the black friday sale from SVS. I got their PB1000 for $400 last time. Awesome stuff.