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Lorex - 16-Channel, 10-Camera Indoor/Outdoor Wired 4K UHD 2TB DVR Surveillance System - White $649

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damirda
11-15-2019 at 01:43 PM.
11-15-2019 at 01:43 PM.
Is this a 1/2" sensor. it does not say anywhere. 111 deg view. is that it ??
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mat2000
11-15-2019 at 09:10 PM.
11-15-2019 at 09:10 PM.
Quote from damirda :
Is this a 1/2" sensor. it does not say anywhere. 111 deg view. is that it ??
Thanks for posting this Damirda

Remember to look at the PAST deals from BF-cyberweek 2018 ( to get an idea of past Lorex deals during BF 2018 )
https://slickdeals.net/f/12200566-security-camera-security-camera-system-black-friday-cyber-week-2018-master-list?

Here is the Lorex page on this kit:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/s...8DAA-E-1-p

Note it is a best buy only kit.

Here's the spec sheet for the camera:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ecs_R2.pdf


Video Transmission Technology: Analog HD (CVI) - CVI = Dahua standard for analog coax cameras ( vs TVI )
Image Sensor: 8MP/4K 1/2" CMOS
Video Format: NTSC
Optical Viewing Angle (Horizontal): 111°
Lens/Lens type: 2.8mm F1.6/ Fixed
Resolution/Frame rate: 4K(8MP) @ 15fps
Effective Pixels H:3840 x V:2160
Termination BNC type

Audio
Microphone/Speaker No/Yes ( I suspect they got this backwards.. )
Siren Yes
2-Way Talk No
Night Vision
IR Night Vision Range 150ft (46m)/ 98ft (30m) ( don't trust this claim.. far too optimistic )
Color Night Vision Yes
Special Features
Deterrence Yes - White Light + Siren
Additional Specifications
Camera Housing Material Polycarbonate
Power Requirements 12 V DC +/- 10%
Power Consumption
(max)
430mA / 5.2W
Camera Dimensions
(W x D x H)
2.8"x 5.9" x 3.2"
(71mm x 150mm x 82mm)
Camera Weight 0.65lb / 0.30kg
Operating Temperature -40F ~ 131˚F / -40C ~ 55˚C
Humidity < 90% RH
Environmental Rating IP67 (Indoor/Outdoor)

note: a smaller version of this kit as a Black Friday deal at Best Buy
https://slickdeals.net/f/13532962-best-buy-black-friday-lorex-8-channel-4-camera-indoor-outdoor-wired-4k-uhd-2tb-dvr-surveillance-system-for-299-99
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slickaroon
11-15-2019 at 10:49 PM.
11-15-2019 at 10:49 PM.
Can it record at 8mp/15fps?

Edit: probably not because on lorex.com it is a 4K-7FPS category.
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rootdeals
11-15-2019 at 11:02 PM.
11-15-2019 at 11:02 PM.
I thought about getting the 8 channel package from costco for 800 but this is way better in terms of quantity. The reviews are decent too. Should I wait?
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mat2000
11-16-2019 at 08:59 AM.
11-16-2019 at 08:59 AM.
Quote from slickaroon :
Can it record at 8mp/15fps?

Edit: probably not because on lorex.com it is a 4K-7FPS category.
Hi slickaroon,

Many of the DVR kits I've looked at on lorex.com have lower performing cameras compared to the NVR ( IP PoE ) kits. Of course, the NVR kits will typically run you more $.

While some professional security camera installations may only do 7fps I prefer also to have at least 15fps for the max resolution, and thus agree with you that 15fps+ is a very good requirement today.

That noted, I see the specs I cut and pasted above to show the cameras can do 15 fps at 8MP
"Resolution/Frame rate: 4K(8MP) @ 15fps"

So is the DVR the limiting factor? ( I did not check the DVR specs )

Quote from rootdeals :
I thought about getting the 8 channel package from costco for 800 but this is way better in terms of quantity. The reviews are decent too. Should I wait?
Hi rootdeals,

Take the next week and determine what your functional needs are.

Look at the ID distance list ( theoretical ) in the following past deal posts:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10409612-lorex-dahua-oem-6x-4k-8mp-security-camera-system-w-8-port-poe-ip-nvr-2tb-hdd-kit-at-costco-b-m-ymmv-for-799-99
and
https://slickdeals.net/f/12200566-security-camera-security-camera-system-black-friday-cyber-week-2018-master-list

We should be seeing a number of good deals around BF-cyberweek, so I would wait a bit longer and really take the time right now to write down what is critical for you.

Remember, imho one system does not do everything well. Definitely also plan to have a security alarm system, and I don't mind tossing in a cloud camera ( like the wyze ) for the front of the house..
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slickaroon
11-16-2019 at 02:17 PM.
11-16-2019 at 02:17 PM.
Quote from mat2000 :
Hi slickaroon,

Many of the DVR kits I've looked at on lorex.com have lower performing cameras compared to the NVR ( IP PoE ) kits. Of course, the NVR kits will typically run you more $.

While some professional security camera installations may only do 7fps I prefer also to have at least 15fps for the max resolution, and thus agree with you that 15fps+ is a very good requirement today.

That noted, I see the specs I cut and pasted above to show the cameras can do 15 fps at 8MP
"Resolution/Frame rate: 4K(8MP) @ 15fps"

So is the DVR the limiting factor? ( I did not check the DVR specs )
Yes it would be limited by the DVR. 15fps @ 4K is still rare, especially on more than one channel.
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mat2000
11-16-2019 at 02:53 PM.
11-16-2019 at 02:53 PM.
Quote from slickaroon :
Yes it would be limited by the DVR. 15fps @ 4K is still rare, especially on more than one channel.
Thanks slickaroon

Yes, see it in the DVR spec sheet now that I am looking closer at this kit:

4K ULTRA HD DIGITAL VIDEO RECORDER
D841_Series_White
Recording Frame Rate 8/16ch: 4K@7fps; 5Mp@12fps;
4MP/3MP@15fps;
1080P@ 25/30fps (NTSC)

ref:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...eet_R2.pdf
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NaroA
11-24-2019 at 05:29 PM.
11-24-2019 at 05:29 PM.
Deal is dead.
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PandemicHoax
11-26-2019 at 10:43 AM.
11-26-2019 at 10:43 AM.
I have a friend building out a new business for his wife and I was enlisted to handle all of the tech-related stuff (TVs, sound system, cameras, Internet access, VoIP SIP, PoS setup, etc). I told him to get this system for $650 but for some reason he cheaped out and wanted to go with an 8-channel setup from Zori for $175 less. Today after thinking about it, he wanted to go with my suggestion but the deal is dead. DERP

By the way, for anyone interested, Annke's software is getting really good now so for budget systems you should give them a look. All the hardware is very similar until you get into the $1000s; it's the software that makes all the difference.
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kdalla5
01-06-2020 at 06:59 PM.
01-06-2020 at 06:59 PM.
Quote from SmilingAlpaca108 :
I have a friend building out a new business for his wife and I was enlisted to handle all of the tech-related stuff (TVs, sound system, cameras, Internet access, VoIP SIP, PoS setup, etc). I told him to get this system for $650 but for some reason he cheaped out and wanted to go with an 8-channel setup from Zori for $175 less. Today after thinking about it, he wanted to go with my suggestion but the deal is dead. DERP

By the way, for anyone interested, Annke's software is getting really good now so for budget systems you should give them a look. All the hardware is very similar until you get into the $1000s; it's the software that makes all the difference.

Would you mind letting me piggyback off your research and ask what you would recommend as far as mid priced security cameras? My parents just had 9 tires slashed and a brick thrown through their bedroom window all over the course of 2 nights they live out in the countryside and are in their 70's so I'm worried about them and want to set up a security system on a budget.
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01-07-2020 at 10:03 AM.
01-07-2020 at 10:03 AM.
Quote from kdalla5 :
Would you mind letting me piggyback off your research and ask what you would recommend as far as mid priced security cameras? My parents just had 9 tires slashed and a brick thrown through their bedroom window all over the course of 2 nights they live out in the countryside and are in their 70's so I'm worried about them and want to set up a security system on a budget.
Hi kdalla5

  • "they live out in the countryside"
  • "... 9 tires slashed and a brick thrown through their bedroom window all over the course of 2 nights "
  • "..want to set up a security system on a budget ..."

  1. Countryside => typically means longer distances that need to be covered and less ambient light. Thus you need better cameras.
  2. Attacks at night => need low light cameras
  3. on a budget => this potentially conflicts with 1, 2 as better cameras = more $

If you have some time review the links in the previous post above:
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=131958814&postcount=6

also the ipcamtalk cliff notes.

If you're super tight on a budget and can wait a bit for the cameras to get delivered, this is a good low light camera at a decent deal:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13760750-security-king-dahua-oem-2mp-starlight-varifocal-motorized-2-7-13mm-2mp-ip-poe-turret-security-camera-143-96

If you need something decent right away at a decent deal then I would consider:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13780862-lorex-16-channel-4k-uhd-nvr-w-4tb-hdd-9x-ip-poe-4k-deterrence-light-cameras-costco-999-99

If you're good with IP address setups you can add a nice varifocal to the Costco Lorex kit to give you a longer ID distance. ( example the camera from Security Camera King, or some of the Dahua OEM 4MP starlight+ cameras - look at reviews from members at ipcamtalk )
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PandemicHoax
01-30-2020 at 01:56 PM.
01-30-2020 at 01:56 PM.
Quote from kdalla5 :
Would you mind letting me piggyback off your research and ask what you would recommend as far as mid priced security cameras? My parents just had 9 tires slashed and a brick thrown through their bedroom window all over the course of 2 nights they live out in the countryside and are in their 70's so I'm worried about them and want to set up a security system on a budget.
For a budget system with decent software I have had great success with Annke. You'll need to invest a little more effort into the initial setup but once it's set up you'll have a reliable system for a few years. The oldest system I have installed were the DN81R systems that I installed on my rental properties. I installed 11 systems and so far every one of them works like a charm. The only thing I can say about Annke that sucks is they don't make firmware readily accessible for updating. You have to email them if you want any updates, and they will reply with a download link for the latest firmware.

PS Stay away from Swann; their systems are unreliable, misrepresented, and unservicable since their "tech support" personnel couldn't possibly be any more ignorant.
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mat2000
01-31-2020 at 07:38 AM.
01-31-2020 at 07:38 AM.
Quote from SmilingAlpaca108 :
For a budget system with decent software I have had great success with Annke. You'll need to invest a little more effort into the initial setup but once it's set up you'll have a reliable system for a few years. The oldest system I have installed were the DN81R systems that I installed on my rental properties. I installed 11 systems and so far every one of them works like a charm. The only thing I can say about Annke that sucks is they don't make firmware readily accessible for updating. You have to email them if you want any updates, and they will reply with a download link for the latest firmware.

PS Stay away from Swann; their systems are unreliable, misrepresented, and unservicable since their "tech support" personnel couldn't possibly be any more ignorant.
Thanks SmilingAlpaca

FYI - Annke sells a very wide range of products. Some are Hikvision OEM ( good, but often outdated firmware... ), and some are absolute cheap-o stuff.. so do be cautious with that brand ( hint example avoid the XPOE stuff.. )
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