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Epson Home Cinema 2100 1080p 3LCD Projector - Refurbished $399
Includes 2-Year Limited Warranty
Epson Certified Refurbished
Wondering if this is a good deal?
https://epson.com/Clearance-Cente...1H851020-N
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Contrast Ratios are always implied and will vary dramatically depending on how dark your room gets and how reflective everything is inside of that room. Light Control *is a must*. You also generally want a screen, projecting on a standard house wall with flat or semi-gloss paint will not be ideal but, you know, its functional. You can get a cheap grey screen (material only, sold cheap in various sizes on ebay) and give that a go, I'd recommend a greyish screen to help enhance the blacks that may get a little washed out on these inexpensive LCD based projectors.
Having said that, $400 for a 1080p projector is amazing, thats what replacement bulbs used to cost.
Optoma is a well known, established brand name. Look at each model and make sure you get one designed for home theater use (better image quality, punchy colors and black levels) versus industrial/classroom models (those tend to be brighter, while sacrificing contrast ratio and color accuracy).
The one thing you want to avoid with projectors is turning them on and off like TV's. Bulbs generally fail when you spark them, particularly when you do it if they are still warm. A good habit with PJ's is to turn them on and just leave them on, I routinely turn mine on for 10+ hour stretches, rather than turn it on/off, on/off several times a day....I've never blown a bulb (4 projectors over a decade)...they just get dim or start to flicker when they reach their end of life (2000-5000 hours in my case) and then you replace them.
or you get a new $400 projector depending on how often you use yours.
Also worth mentioning: 4K is not native on most projectors under $5000 and you can forget "real HDR" on any projector, even the $5000+ ones...1080p even at 120" is *FINE* for gaming/movie watching, 4K is of course better..even simulated...but you're not getting that for $500 yet.
HDR requires intense light output in specific regions of the panel and Projectors do not really operate like that, so even PJ's that cost $10k, $15k have dubious HDR light output numbers so just go in with your eyes open if you see HDR on any PJ and you're expecting the image to make you wince on bright scenes like a back-panel-lit LED or OLED might.
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There's no way to actually tell
A replacement bulb is about $50 on their site. It's currently OOS.
I game on it, very good response time for a projector. I have it hooked up to a receiver and sound system, along with a ps4, xbox one, switch, Wii U, and gaming pc. It is a dream playing on it.
Yes we use it for xbox and switch. It revolutionized 4 player games because we each get a personal 50" TV!!
I'm jealous. I would have to install mine on the ceiling to get a larger screen size, so I'm stuck with 100"...stuck...
We took it to a neighbor this fall for a movie night, it worked great on his garage door...even without a screen. I mean it is big enough you could probably have the kids over 6 feet away from each other haha! Be sure to plan for sound though; someone had to bring over a good sized speaker (with a build in amp).
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Fan noise is unacceptable, even in eco mode.
I got the "silver ticket" 100" screen, and while it looks 'good', don't kid yourself in comparing it to an actual LED display.
Running long cables was annoying, and I regret running them through the walls now since I took it down.
1080p vs 4k...and really the '1080p' is only achieved in ideal conditions late at night.
100% required sound system. You will need to invest $400 more to get sound with projection. While TV sound isn't good, at least you can run the TV by itself with some 'ok' sound.
And for the only benefit of....
Having a 100" screen. Yea it was nice, but all these downsides led me to simply replacing it with a 75" 4k Samsung TV for $800. It just looks, feels, and plays so much better than my projector. I wish I didn't spend all that time measuring, calculating, and building a room when a TV just performs and looks significantly better. When you look at the cost of everything, it's basically a break even, and you save yourself a headache with just getting a TV.
My 2 cents.
I watch a lot of TV, especially sports...most of these broadcast on 720p. Total crap viewing experience. When the super bowl aired in 4k, it was amazing because we were watching 1080p sports on 100". Yes it would have been nice in 4k, and we did plug in the old 46" (very nice) Samsung, but it didn't hold a stick to the projector at 1080p. I can imagine a 75" would have improved the experience quite a bit, but I'm not sure a 75" for $800 would work for sports. The TVs I buy for sports run about $1500 for ~50", so there definitely is no break even. Also already have a solid sound system. But you're right, you get no legit sound out of it, although most TV sound is pretty raunchy.
It's back in stock.
Anyone looking for a remotely decent setup is probably looking at the following:
$500 Projector
$100 Mount For Ceiling
$200 Screen (Check out Silver ticket @ Amazon)
$200 Receiver
$400 Speakers (Center, Bookshelves & Sub on sale) - Try the Sony Cores and Dayton 12" sub for cheap
Way better than buying a fancy 75" TV for $1500. Just my 2 cents.
Fan noise is unacceptable, even in eco mode.
I got the "silver ticket" 100" screen, and while it looks 'good', don't kid yourself in comparing it to an actual LED display.
Running long cables was annoying, and I regret running them through the walls now since I took it down.
1080p vs 4k...and really the '1080p' is only achieved in ideal conditions late at night.
100% required sound system. You will need to invest $400 more to get sound with projection. While TV sound isn't good, at least you can run the TV by itself with some 'ok' sound.
And for the only benefit of....
Having a 100" screen. Yea it was nice, but all these downsides led me to simply replacing it with a 75" 4k Samsung TV for $800. It just looks, feels, and plays so much better than my projector. I wish I didn't spend all that time measuring, calculating, and building a room when a TV just performs and looks significantly better. When you look at the cost of everything, it's basically a break even, and you save yourself a headache with just getting a TV.
My 2 cents.
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How do you know the counter wasn't reset with the old bulb intact and then ran 3 hrs before you got it?