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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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Can anyone recommend a lender that can get a loan closed fast! We were supposed to close on Monday and our Lender, FirstMidewest screwed up royally submitting a property disclosure that showed a farmers lease on the ranch we are buying and he wasn't supposed to, to underwriting. They will now not close the loan. We have to start all over and our house we are in is set to close any day. We need it fast. Credit score is 805 35% loan to value. It should be easy.
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Quote from David9569 :
I'm still curious to see a quote from Radian for PA rates that magically has them at such a cheap discount. I do know that alttitle.com in PA cannot possibly be beat for rates since they have zero fees beside the 3 required by PA. Basically in PA for a standard refinance it's always going to be $425 plus the Lender's title insurance (automatically determined by the refinance amount here http://www.alphaadv.net/patitle/parate25.html).

Then there are optional fees like notary and courier that most companies charge for, but alttitle covers everything else. Interestingly enough alttitle told me they currently have about a dozen refinances going on now with other people using Better.

I posted a quote on this forum; I thought you saw it? Its about $1600 and as I have said several times that I've done Refi's in Nov/Feb and both were around that cost (little higher as I had title changes).


I actually called them today and they stated that if the Lender is not a current customer of theirs they are not taking on new Lenders and no Direct to Consumer options either. The lender has to be in their system for them to process orders as the Direct side is closed due to covid.



I confirmed the quote and again the lady today 7/17 confirmed that a Title order is in place and Better is in their system so my costs would be around $1601......so the next confirmation would be when I see anything from Better with updated disclosures.


The other member who said that their rates were the same actually messaged me and confirmed that Radian was in fact cheaper Smilie.


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07-17-2020 at 04:29 PM.
07-17-2020 at 04:29 PM.
Quote from shahhere :
I posted a quote on this forum; I thought you saw it? Its about $1600 and as I have said several times that I've done Refi's in Nov/Feb and both were around that cost (little higher as I had title changes).


I actually called them today and they stated that if the Lender is not a current customer of theirs they are not taking on new Lenders and no Direct to Consumer options either. The lender has to be in their system for them to process orders as the Direct side is closed due to covid.



I confirmed the quote and again the lady today 7/17 confirmed that a Title order is in place and Better is in their system so my costs would be around $1601......so the next confirmation would be when I see anything from Better with updated disclosures.


The other member who said that their rates were the same actually messaged me and confirmed that Radian was in fact cheaper .


Shahhere
Darn, I didn't see that post. If I recall correctly, your loan is for about $245K? Is so, $1601 would mean they are not charging you for a closing protection letter (do you know if you are getting one?) and the 3 standard lender's endorsements. They have set rates in PA, so either it's legal to charge you under the limit, or it's legal to just not give it to you (in which case you lose some protection).

So this is a really old article, but I think it explains it. Radian is offering up a different product, but it sounds like it is still safe?

https://www.southcoasttoday.com/a.../301119921
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07-17-2020 at 04:54 PM.
07-17-2020 at 04:54 PM.
Aside from the numbers discussed which I am in agreement, here is another perspective: If you are capable of making the 15 year (or 20 year) payments then don't go for the 30 year because the human mind is such that it thinks you have a lot of left over money and will tend to spend it even if there is no real need to spend. This is not to say you or I are not disciplined in spending and this does not even have to be every month. But if you have a larger amount left over every month that does not NEED to go to a mortgage, wasteful needs can and will get created for that extra money. Gritting your teeth every month is better than having the feeling of excess float for which the plan is to make extra payments.

Of course everybody's situation is different and what is a squeeze for one refinancer may be almost impossible for a new home owner. Im providing this only to balance out what appears to be opinion in favor of the 30 year.
And if you do choose the 30 year, make those big extra payments at the beginning if you can than later in the loan term as the interest is being calculated for the full 30 years right from day 1.

Quote from missourian :
I am currently on 3.375% 30 year fixed, I am getting a quote from watermark of 2.75% for a 20 year fixed and he is saying it as a no cost loan

If 30 year and 20 year has the exact same option, choosing a 20 year loan a good option?
Quote from shahhere :
I think you answered it in a confusing way lol....


1) If given a choice between 15,20, 30 I'd ways take a 30 year loan especially if the rates difference is not more than 0.5% or even 0.75%.

2) You have to be disciplined and you can pay the extra principle payments between the 2 rates to accelerate the payoff time; so in the poster above I'd take 30 and pay the extra monthly payments to hit a 20 month payoff which is easy.


3)Just like MPhool said that this option gives you a chance to scale back the payments and not pay the extra monthly if you financially cant.

BTW, if you pay a 30 Year Loan at a 20 Year loan Payment schedule there would be no additional Interest you'd pay; it would be even.
If you pay a 30 year at the 15 year Principle amount but since the rates are different using 2.75% & 2.375% you'd be paying it off in 16ish years which is not that bad as well and the years/months you cannot pay the additional Payments you have the Flexibility to scale back without penalty or defaulting on the loan.



Again remember you are only paying an "Extra" 0.5 or 0.75% on the money borrowed which you can technically invest or put in other money earning accounts concurrently and come out ahead. Think about it this way that you are borrowing money from the mortgage lenders/banks at historic low rates under 3%..........

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Cmon, this is slickdeals. If the rate is the same, 30yr is better than 15yrs. If you are so unadept at handling your finances that you want to force an inflexible robot to take your money earlier so you don't waste it, and you don't get to change your mind for 15 years, than go with the 15yr.
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07-17-2020 at 08:08 PM.
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This is my first time refinancing...

I submitted an application to Watermark on 7/12 and got an e-mail the next day. Via e-mail, locked in 30 year $330k refinance (LTV approx. 77% and 800 FICO) at 2.625% with approx $1,800 in total costs (appraisal waived and included $800 in Lender Credit) plus taxes and escrow. Today I was told that I was going to be transferred to a different LO to handle the paperwork. I got the LE estimate from my new LO with total costs almost double what I was quotes and includes an appraisal fee. I e-mailed my LO back this evening saying there are some errors in the LE and he is going to look into it. The LE does include an origination fee that was not mentioned in the e-mails, but unless I'm missing something, I don't really care what the costs are, just as long as they are what they told me via e-mail. Communication with Watermark has been very good.

I have LE's from Loan Cabin and LenderFi, which are both the same interest rate and about the same fees. I also have a LE from better.com, but they came in at 3.0%.

If Watermark can give me what they originally quoted via e-mail, I will most likely go through them, but Better did say that they will try to price match. Communication with better has actually been almost too good...I probably get a phone call or text from them everyday...

If I do decide to try and price match with better, any suggestions on how and when to mention the American Express deal (I figured I would post here first before posting on that thread)

Edit: I forgot to say Thanks to Shahhere and everyone else who has provided help and suggestions!
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07-17-2020 at 09:42 PM.
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Hi,

I refinanced with better in May month. Now refinancing again with them.

Do I need to pay transfer taxes again?
Can I get any concessions in title services ?
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Anyone have any info on best rates with Jumbo Loans? Nothing is in the wiki.
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Quote from shwymie :
If I do decide to try and price match with better, any suggestions on how and when to mention the American Express deal (I figured I would post here first before posting on that thread)

Edit: I forgot to say Thanks to Shahhere and everyone else who has provided help and suggestions!
1. Mention/confirm the American Express deal after you've locked in a rate and have an improved LE from Better. Presumably they already know about it assuming you applied through the link. There's really no rush to mention it, but I'd want to confirm it's on there in case there were problems later.

2. Expect your communication to Better to fall off a cliff once you lock in. That's what has happened to most of us.

3. Why do you want to go through Watermark, who has been shady, when Better is possibly offering you the same deal plus $2500 extra? I would just send your best LE to Better, and if they accept, then you are done.
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07-18-2020 at 07:45 AM.
07-18-2020 at 07:45 AM.
I've updated my second post with reoccurring questions and explanations for the mortgage process as I understand it and to answer many other questions. If you think I should include additional topics or clarifications please provide me the feedback. User that ask general questions should be pointed to the post directly:


https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138528260&postcount=3




Homework and Understanding:

Step1: The goal is to get a formal Loan Estimate (LE) from any lender you apply with and provide them your Social Security to do a Hard Pull. Note that for Mortgage related SS Hard pulls they are combined as a single inquiry and do not drop your credit score like individual credit card applications as this applies to Student Loan and Auto Loan shopping as well and is looked at a 14-45 day window.
Reference: https://www.myfico.com/credit-edu...-inquiries
Reference: https://www.equifax.com/personal/...it-report/
Step2: Understanding the Loan Estimate as they are overall in a standard format:
A – Charges in this section are what the Lender charges you such as Origination; Points, App Fee etc. This is what you want to be Zero as most lenders will waive or give you credit toward this being zero.
B – Internal lender fees such as Credit Reporting Fee; Flood Certification fee. Again this is what the lender has to pay when you apply and in most cases the lender will not charge this while you are shopping and some will make you pay this upfront which is ok.
C – Title Costs – In most states (PA, VA, FL excluded) the title costs are reasonable and this is what you generally pay for but you can shop this with other Title Companies and not just the one brought in by the Lender.
D = A+B+C
E – Taxes & Fees – Standard items you pay Uncle Sam
F – Prepaid – Lenders will collect certain premiums on your behalf upfront such as Insurance and City/School Taxes.
G – Escrows – Similar to above Lenders will collect this on your behalf to reduce the risk of you not paying them. Escrows can be waived but will cost you a 0.25% as it's a risk that you won't pay on time to most lender/Fannie etc.
H – Other – Generally listed and standard.
I = E+F+G+H
J – (D+I) + Any Lender Credit that is offered to offset any charges in A&B or a bigger credit towards closing your loan.
Step3: Closing Cost shopping:
1. Lenders as of this writing are competing and are willing to have Zero Dollars charges in A&B from above and is considered a "No Cost" or "No Fee" loan.
2. All third party charges such as C=Title and Taxes and Escrows are in addition to this offering.
3. Many lenders will provide an even bigger credit than what the charges are in A&B as well as cover other items from C-I; this is termed "No Closing Costs" as it falls in 3 categories:
i. Negative Credit - Getting money left over from the credit to be used to either get up to a $2000 refund. Apply the remainder towards principle reduction (this changes your credit received as it changes the $$ you are borrowing as well.
ii. $0 – Most of the time you'll net very little left over or for you to pay out of pocket in this case. If you negotiated a "No Closing Cost" loan then the lender will should cover any unforeseen costs in A&B at the least.
iii. Cash required to close – In this scenario you'll have to bring additional funds to close the loan as after A-J would not cover all the closing costs.
4. Unless you LOCK the rate with the lender there are changes your numbers will change and so if the rates are low it's in your best interest to Lock.
5. Most lenders that I've shopped provide a "Float" option to further reduce your rate if there is a change of an 1/8 - ¼ % change in the rates. Many lenders are also willing to match other Lenders to match or beat the rates.
Applying:

Step4: Apply to 5-15 places to yield the best results when shopping. Apply to your local Banks but note that many smaller mortgage companies have a higher threshold for rates and credits in your favor. Applying means that you'll have to provide your Social Security# and some preliminary data in an application to get documents sent to you such as a Loan Estimate (LE). Note from above that Mortgage, Student & Car Loan Hard Pulls are groups as single hits and won't drop your credit score in most cases for 14-45 days. Below are the most competitive lenders that I've encountered for my scenario with my own feedback:


30 Year rates to use for other rate platforms and please note that my rate will not necessarily mean you'll get that rate as market and individual changes will determine that and even your negotiation pull will determine that:
2.625% - WatermarkHomeLoans.com - Michael C - 949-577-9120 – Most Competitive and might take 2-3 days to response. Should be able to get either no Costs for A&B or some credit back towards closing in J
2.625% - Loancabin.com - Competitive rates but are looking at 3-4 days response time - Should be able to kick you back some credit ($1000 to $2000)
2.75% Loan Depot – Competitive rates for many but get a bit pushy to lock which is OK if the offer is good.
3% LenderFi – No longer taking new application but were competitive and should be checked.
3.375% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback
Not all Lender will service your state so keep looking and look for other local smaller lenders and banks.

Step5: While applying take note to provide and send/upload all documents to the lender in as little of a time as possible as many lenders will drop your application if it's not received in 2 business days. Normal documentation:
1. Last 2 Paystubs
2. Last 2 Bank Statements to show that you have money to pay during closing. Note; large transactions over certain dollar amount will get scrutinized and funds will need to come out of these bank account else you'll have trouble closing.
3. W2/Tax Filings from last 2 years. More years might be needed for some.
4. Home Owners Insurance – Declaration pages.
5. Current Lender Statement
6. Current Lender Payoff Statement
7. Driving License or other Government ID Scan.
Step6: Title Company. As noted above you are allowed to pick your own Title company and in many cases you'll find competitive rates here with large savings compared to the Lender's preferred Title Company. Title Companies I've used in the past with good success and others:
1. Radian Title Services - 412-494-0400 - [email protected] – Best rates I've found hands down in 12 years of shopping. Currently not taking consumer direct inquiries and will require your lender to be established with them so the lender will have to place the order using the above email/phone.
2. AltTitle – Competitive all-inclusive rates.
3. Fidelity Title – Competitive rates
Step7: Negative points.

Step8: Breakeven Calculations and understanding money factor


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Quote from David9569 :
Darn, I didn't see that post. If I recall correctly, your loan is for about $245K? Is so, $1601 would mean they are not charging you for a closing protection letter (do you know if you are getting one?) and the 3 standard lender's endorsements. They have set rates in PA, so either it's legal to charge you under the limit, or it's legal to just not give it to you (in which case you lose some protection).

So this is a really old article, but I think it explains it. Radian is offering up a different product, but it sounds like it is still safe?

https://www.southcoasttoday.com/a.../301119921

Here is the post along with the quotes I posted from both places for comparison and on paper quote for Radian Smilie showing $1600ish quote.


https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138626453&postcount=5367





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07-18-2020 at 08:08 AM.
07-18-2020 at 08:08 AM.
Quote from shahhere :
Here is the post along with the quotes I posted from both places for comparison and on paper quote for Radian showing $1600ish quote.



Shahhere
I still don't see the post Smilie

I asked alttitle about Radian and asked him to give me his best argument why I should use his company. His argument was based on choosing local, more dependable, better customer service, and better flexibility. That's a more convincing argument for buying a house than for a refinance in my opinion.

Your "wiki" is really good. Nice job putting it together. Two suggestions. Consider putting my article that explains why Radian's rates are lower (they provide an alternative service to I think every other title company). Also I personally found Loan Cabin's rate calculator extremely helpful, and you might want to mention it. Basically I went on their site, researched the rates with various numbers, told Samantha what I wanted, and she wrote up an LE for it (after I had already applied). That's the LE I took to Better.
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07-18-2020 at 08:14 AM.
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I still don't see the post Smilie

I asked alttitle about Radian and asked him to give me his best argument why I should use his company. His argument was based on choosing local, more dependable, better customer service, and better flexibility. That's a more convincing argument for buying a house than for a refinance in my opinion.

Your "wiki" is really good. Nice job putting it together. Two suggestions. Consider putting my article that explains why Radian's rates are lower (they provide an alternative service to I think every other title company). Also I personally found Loan Cabin's rate calculator extremely helpful, and you might want to mention it. Basically I went on their site, researched the rates with various numbers, told Samantha what I wanted, and she wrote up an LE for it (after I had already applied). That's the LE I took to Better.

Link was broken or something but again here is the post: https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138626453&postcount=5367. There are 2 documents attached to that post and I uploaded to this one an new image that is not broken like before.


The article you posted is talking about "Radian Lien Protection" which is not what Radian Title Services is providing btw as the quotes list title search so that article is outdated or not referencing the same product. Again; I've used them for the last 8+ years when they were called Entitle and now Radian and never had an issue.


If you have a link to the LC items I'll update the post with it for sure.


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07-18-2020 at 09:01 AM.
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An FYI. If Better.com isn't available in your state, Rocket Mortgages had the same $2,500 incentive offer with AmEx. We tried to have them match our best refi offer today and they told us that they are no longer doing the AmEx incentive (which also means appraisal cannot be waived.)
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07-18-2020 at 09:03 AM.
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An FYI. If Better.com isn't available in your state, Rocket Mortgages had the same $2,500 incentive offer with AmEx. We tried to have them match our best refi offer today and they told us that they are no longer doing the AmEx incentive (which also means appraisal cannot be waived.)

Ironically I got that offer in my email but I did not want to confuse it with the better.com offer in the even it was just 1 referral but i dont see the email again. Better.com emails came a few times.


What was the end date on the Rocket Mortgage offer? Again, hardly anyone has mentioned them here so I doubt their rates are competitive at all...


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