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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!
Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.
Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.
All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:
30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
Shahhere
Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc
Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.
Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.
All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:
30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:
07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500
07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521
07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
TBD15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.Title Company Comparisions:
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
- AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
- Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
- Better.com https://better.com/
- BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloan
s.com/ - Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourow
nloan.com/...sults.aspx - Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmor
t.com/ - HighTechLending http://www.hightechlen
ding.co/Default.aspx - Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemort
gage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy! - LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
- Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.c
om/ - Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.c
om/ - LoanLock https://www.loanlock.co
m/ - NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal
.org/ - NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
- Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe
.com/ - Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
- Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
- Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.c
om/ - RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.co
m/ - Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.or
g/ Eligibility traviscu.org - United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
- Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkho
meloans.com/ - West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
Shahhere
Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc
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Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*
Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com
Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage
Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)
Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool
Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.
Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.
This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).
You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)
You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).
Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.
If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.
If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.
Thanks - MeAPhool
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I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=
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As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfin I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C". |
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Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*
- Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.c
om/ - Better.com https://better.com/
- Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
- LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.co
m/ - owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
- NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
- Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.c
om/ - Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.or
g/ Eligibility [traviscu.org] - Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
- Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemort
gage.com/ - NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal
.org/ - United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
- BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloan
s.com/ - LoanLock https://www.loanlock.co
m/ - West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
- RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.co
m/ - Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe
.com/ - HighTechLending https://hightechlending
.mortgagewebcen ter.com/ - Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourow
nloan.com/...sults.aspx - AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
- Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
https://www.amerisave.com/ - Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.c
om/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better. - Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkho
meloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask. - Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmor
t.com/ - Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
- Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.
com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]
Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com
Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage
Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)
Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool
Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.
Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.
This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).
You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)
You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).
Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.
If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.
If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.
Thanks - MeAPhool
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For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png
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from PeterLegend
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.
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I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them. |
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The article you posted is talking about "Radian Lien Protection" which is not what Radian Title Services is providing btw as the quotes list title search so that article is outdated or not referencing the same product. Again; I've used them for the last 8+ years when they were called Entitle and now Radian and never had an issue.
If you have a link to the LC items I'll update the post with it for sure.
Shahhere
I got an updated Loan Estimate from Better.com showing that the Title Fees were updated based on the order placed with Radian and the costs are now down to $14xx vs $22xx that they had quoted (This is in PA, despite our conversations about standard pricing in PA lol).
Shahhere
Shahhere
My understanding is that usually the LE at first may not have the title discount or reissue rate. If you did a refi recently you could get a discount in title insurance part.
varies state to state but for TX (from tdi.texas.gov):
Do I get a discount if I refinance?
Yes, if you refinance within eight years. The premium discount varies, based on the number of years since your current loan began. If your current loan was within four years of your new loan, you get a 50% discount on the basic premium. If your current loan was between four and eight years before the new loan, you get a 25% discount. After eight years, you do not get a discount.
Shahhere
That's interesting!!
https://lofidirect.com/page/lofi-licensing
For the 15 year 2.25 rate 250K loan amount, they currently have lender credit covering their 1400 origination. (Not the best out there, but probably very close)
The other good thing about this lender is they do not inflate the title insurance and appraisal costs either - at least for where I am. So if you are looking for a LE that is realistic in all the sections, this might be the lender to go to.
I have a lender that was servicing my loan in 2014 who I had reached out last week to see what they could do as their letter stated that they'd beat any offers out there.
Not having high hopes and even if they beat it I'd figured it was only by a hundred at best but lo and behold they have taken my Better Estimate of -$2150 for 2.75% and are kicking back a really large credit at the same rate and kicking back almost -$6600. The credit is large enough for me to consider this a "True No Closing Cost" loan and not bring any money to close.
Verbally this was unheard of yesterday and I do have a Loan Estimate reflecting that credit and am awaiting the Lender to "Lock" the rate/credit so I have a solid item to go by and will post the Lender Information here as well. I highly doubt that others will be able to replicate this deal My 227K loan with 47% LTV and a good Debt to Income and Credit score combined with probably some sort of an exemption by the lender........
I've sent it to Better but don't think they'll come close and think they'll flat out reject the match. I'll post the Lender Info and the Direct Contact to the LO who helped me to help everyone else here as soon as I have a Locked LE and the state that they Operate in (PA is obviously one of them
Shahhere
If that won't work, then you can proceed to the next step to upload docs, hard pull and official LE which I never got to yet. LOFI is very hands on - they will send you repeated once a day text, email, etc trying to get you to complete full process - so be warned you might need to do disable spam filters for LoFi now and enable them once you are done. They are also relatively easier to reach as of now since they are new as yet.
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I have a lender that was servicing my loan in 2014 who I had reached out last week to see what they could do as their letter stated that they'd beat any offers out there.
Not having high hopes and even if they beat it I'd figured it was only by a hundred at best but lo and behold they have taken my Better Estimate of -$2150 for 2.75% and are kicking back a really large credit at the same rate and kicking back almost -$6600. The credit is large enough for me to consider this a "True No Closing Cost" loan and not bring any money to close.
Verbally this was unheard of yesterday and I do have a Loan Estimate reflecting that credit and am awaiting the Lender to "Lock" the rate/credit so I have a solid item to go by and will post the Lender Information here as well. I highly doubt that others will be able to replicate this deal My 227K loan with 47% LTV and a good Debt to Income and Credit score combined with probably some sort of an exemption by the lender........
I've sent it to Better but don't think they'll come close and think they'll flat out reject the match. I'll post the Lender Info and the Direct Contact to the LO who helped me to help everyone else here as soon as I have a Locked LE and the state that they Operate in (PA is obviously one of them
Shahhere
You mentioned earlier that there is a way to appeal a Better denial. Do you know what that method is ? Is there another number or someone else you call or email to request a reconsideration if you are shot down initially for a rate match?
If that won't work, then you can proceed to the next step to upload docs, hard pull and official LE which I never got to yet. LOFI is very hands on - they will send you repeated once a day text, email, etc trying to get you to complete full process - so be warned you might need to do disable spam filters for LoFi now and enable them once you are done. They are also relatively easier to reach as of now since they are new as yet.
I have a lender that was servicing my loan in 2014 who I had reached out last week to see what they could do as their letter stated that they'd beat any offers out there.
Not having high hopes and even if they beat it I'd figured it was only by a hundred at best but lo and behold they have taken my Better Estimate of -$2150 for 2.75% and are kicking back a really large credit at the same rate and kicking back almost -$6600. The credit is large enough for me to consider this a "True No Closing Cost" loan and not bring any money to close.
Verbally this was unheard of yesterday and I do have a Loan Estimate reflecting that credit and am awaiting the Lender to "Lock" the rate/credit so I have a solid item to go by and will post the Lender Information here as well. I highly doubt that others will be able to replicate this deal My 227K loan with 47% LTV and a good Debt to Income and Credit score combined with probably some sort of an exemption by the lender........
I've sent it to Better but don't think they'll come close and think they'll flat out reject the match. I'll post the Lender Info and the Direct Contact to the LO who helped me to help everyone else here as soon as I have a Locked LE and the state that they Operate in (PA is obviously one of them
Shahhere
I have a lender that was servicing my loan in 2014 who I had reached out last week to see what they could do as their letter stated that they'd beat any offers out there.
Not having high hopes and even if they beat it I'd figured it was only by a hundred at best but lo and behold they have taken my Better Estimate of -$2150 for 2.75% and are kicking back a really large credit at the same rate and kicking back almost -$6600. The credit is large enough for me to consider this a "True No Closing Cost" loan and not bring any money to close.
Verbally this was unheard of yesterday and I do have a Loan Estimate reflecting that credit and am awaiting the Lender to "Lock" the rate/credit so I have a solid item to go by and will post the Lender Information here as well. I highly doubt that others will be able to replicate this deal My 227K loan with 47% LTV and a good Debt to Income and Credit score combined with probably some sort of an exemption by the lender........
I've sent it to Better but don't think they'll come close and think they'll flat out reject the match. I'll post the Lender Info and the Direct Contact to the LO who helped me to help everyone else here as soon as I have a Locked LE and the state that they Operate in (PA is obviously one of them
Shahhere
Yes, I've updated the OP with the LO that I have contacted.
Shahhere
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