ABS Challenger Gaming PC - Intel i5 10400 - GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 16GB DDR4 - 512GB SSD for $849.99 + FS

Good deal? Convince me one way or the other

https://slickdeals.net/f/14359388-lenovo-ideacentre-t540-i5-9400-16gb-ddr4-gtx-1660-ti-256gb-pcie-ssd-1tb-hdd-310w-psu-win10h-726-69-f-s?src=catpagev2

i would compare with this link above which has a better 1660 ti for $150 plus cheaper....

Quote from b22 : https://slickdeals.net/f/14359388-lenovo-ideacentre-t540-i5-9400-16gb-ddr4-gtx-1660-ti-256gb-pcie-ssd-1tb-hdd-310w-psu-win10h-726-69-f-s?src=catpagev2 i would compare with this link above which has a better 1660 ti for $150 plus cheaper....

Ty! I'm really keen on the extra threads so I wish this were a 10th gen or I at least had the option to customize it. 😞

Quote from b22 : https://slickdeals.net/f/14359388-lenovo-ideacentre-t540-i5-9400-16gb-ddr4-gtx-1660-ti-256gb-pcie-ssd-1tb-hdd-310w-psu-win10h-726-69-f-s?src=catpagev2 i would compare with this link above which has a better 1660 ti for $150 plus cheaper....

Has previous gen CPU as well.

Shows $849 when I click the link?

Quote from Primexcel : Has previous gen CPU as well.

Performance wise, you won't be able to tell the difference between the i5 9400 and the i5 10400.
They both retail within $20-25 of each other.
1660ti > 1660 super
The real difference here is the fact that the $150 cheaper system has a 256 SSD not a 500 SSD.

I think both systems are relatively crap by today's standards but at sub $900 you won't find much better.

This is what you buy a child who is playing minecraft and fortnite and still needs a decent computer for other things. Spending $900 on a gaming PC is pretty much bottom budget while still hitting decent fps.

If you're an adult who can afford a real gaming PC, then hold off until the rtx 3080 and 3070 systems start dropping. A 3070 could make an extremely affordable gaming computer for the sub $500 GPU range.

Quote from Fibrocyte : Good deal? Convince me one way or the other

Graphics card is old. Anything that isn't RTX and therefore can't do DLSS is going to be left in the dust this generation. You're better off getting a CPU+Mobo combo for cheap and waiting for a price drop on last gen RTX cards, you'll pay a bit more but it'll last you a lot longer

Quote from electricblue17 : Graphics card is old. Anything that isn't RTX and therefore can't do DLSS is going to be left in the dust this generation

1660 Super was released less than a year ago.

Also, it all depends on the use case.

1660 Super can play most anything at 1080@60 on ultra settings. If you want higher/better then go bigger, but that doesn't make this a bad deal.

Comparing this deal to a 3080 that costs about as much as this entire PC and, by the way, you probably won't get your hands on until 2021 doesn't really make much sense. Like saying a Honda is a bad deal becuase it isn't a 2021 Tesla.

Fo what you get here, this is a nice deal.

Quote from b22 : https://slickdeals.net/f/14359388-lenovo-ideacentre-t540-i5-9400-16gb-ddr4-gtx-1660-ti-256gb-pcie-ssd-1tb-hdd-310w-psu-win10h-726-69-f-s?src=catpagev2 i would compare with this link above which has a better 1660 ti for $150 plus cheaper....

Yes, much better deal there.

Quote from Ohsighrus : Performance wise, you won't be able to tell the difference between the i5 9400 and the i5 10400. They both retail within $20-25 of each other. 1660ti > 1660 super The real difference here is the fact that the $150 cheaper system has a 256 SSD not a 500 SSD. I think both systems are relatively crap by today's standards but at sub $900 you won't find much better. This is what you buy a child who is playing minecraft and fortnite and still needs a decent computer for other things. Spending $900 on a gaming PC is pretty much bottom budget while still hitting decent fps. If you're an adult who can afford a real gaming PC, then hold off until the rtx 3080 and 3070 systems start dropping. A 3070 could make an extremely affordable gaming computer for the sub $500 GPU range.

The i5-10400 has double the threads of the i5-9400 and also a higher boost clock. You can absolutely tell the difference between those two CPU's. While I agree with you that saving up for the RTX 3070 is a great idea for those that can afford it, if someone just wants to game in 1080p and 60fps then $900 is plenty to build a solid gaming PC.

Ryzen 5 and better gfx will be a better deal for the price

Quote from Fibrocyte : Good deal? Convince me one way or the other

i know not everyone has a microcenter near them, but if you do and are building a budget build-
cpu = 160 (i5-10400)
mobo = 40 (cheapest H board for $60 minus $20 bundle discount)
ram = 55 (2x8 3200mhz, you'd want dual channel anyway)
ssd = 55 (for budget 500gb ssd)
gpu = 230 (1660 super)
case = 60 (any budget case popping up on SD lately)
psu = 55 (powerspec 550w 80+ bronze)
keyboard & mouse = 30 for very budget

i'm gonna assume you have your own (& better quality) keyboard and mouse, so i won't take that into account. before windows 10, that's $655.

however, if you were to get a legit win10 ($80-130) and use microcenter's pc building services ($150), that's right around $900 ballpark. but building a basic pc is not difficult - plenty of step-by-step youtube videos for that, and it can be a fun project.

also, many people buy gray market win10 on ebay for $5. that's up to you, but a potential money saver. those keys do work; it's just a matter of ethics.

one upside of buying a prebuilt is troubleshooting & warranty is easier - you only have to deal with one company.

my personal opinion - wait for rtx 3060 (if you're on a budget) AND amd rdna 2 cards, watch a few youtube videos, and build your own. you'll get better performance per dollar for sure.

Quote from djbreitboy234 : The i5-10400 has double the threads of the i5-9400 and also a higher boost clock. You can absolutely tell the difference between those two CPU's. While I agree with you that saving up for the RTX 3070 is a great idea for those that can afford it, if someone just wants to game in 1080p and 60fps then $900 is plenty to build a solid gaming PC.

I was going to say something mean to the original poster but i rather support your comment. This PC will play any game you need at 1080p. Its not cutting edge but $2000+ for a "real adult" gaming PC is way more than most people want or are willing to pay.

Also on a more serious note why are the 16XX series cars now "junk" compared to the new RTX cards? I have seen this comment once or twice. My sons plays ARK on a old 940m and on low settings he does just fine and has fun. So i am having trouble seeing how a 16XX series card will be extremely out dated just because a new 30XX is coming out.

This is what I got this morning https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yNtRp8