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Rheem Performance Platinum 50 Gal. 10-Year Hybrid High Efficiency Smart Tank Electric Water Heater - $799 + shipping

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I just purchased this water heater, normally $1299, for $799 + tax + $75 shipping.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

Steps to get deal:
1) Go to above link
2) Change store to zip code 15010(Edit: use Zip 97322 for $699 instead of $799)
3) Select Ship to Home (unless you happen to live close to this store), add to cart.
4) Check out.

Additional notes:
1) Federal tax credit of $300. State tax credits vary, in my home state we get an additional $400 (bringing this heater down to $99 + $75 shipping + tax).
2) For many/most, the $75 shipping is worth it even if you can get this price locally as these heaters are quite heavy and supposedly must be transported vertically.
3) Do your homework on these hybrid heaters before purchasing. You need 220V to operate. Installation expense is generally much higher with hybrid electric vs standard electric resistance heaters and gas heaters. Hot water recovery is very slow (but you can switch to standard electric mode for rapid recovery when you know your usage will be high, e.g. having company over). They can apparently be loud, so if this will be located close to a bedroom, important to think about. There are important climate and installation location factors to consider--just google.
4) The newest generation of this series from Rheem, called "Proterra" can be had for $1269, a slight discount compared to full price (15% for my location). After carefully examining specs, photos, etc - it seems that the only difference with the Proterra series is built-in leak detection with auto-shutoff. FYI if that feature is important to you, you can add it for $219:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem...513?NCNI-5
5) This is for 50 gallon. Looks like if you need 65 gal or 80 gal, the Proterra is actually on sale (whereas the Performance Platinum is full price), making the Proterra cheaper.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081
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I just purchased this water heater, normally $1299, for $799 + tax + $75 shipping.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

Steps to get deal:
1) Go to above link
2) Change store to zip code 15010(Edit: use Zip 97322 for $699 instead of $799)
3) Select Ship to Home (unless you happen to live close to this store), add to cart.
4) Check out.

Additional notes:
1) Federal tax credit of $300. State tax credits vary, in my home state we get an additional $400 (bringing this heater down to $99 + $75 shipping + tax).
2) For many/most, the $75 shipping is worth it even if you can get this price locally as these heaters are quite heavy and supposedly must be transported vertically.
3) Do your homework on these hybrid heaters before purchasing. You need 220V to operate. Installation expense is generally much higher with hybrid electric vs standard electric resistance heaters and gas heaters. Hot water recovery is very slow (but you can switch to standard electric mode for rapid recovery when you know your usage will be high, e.g. having company over). They can apparently be loud, so if this will be located close to a bedroom, important to think about. There are important climate and installation location factors to consider--just google.
4) The newest generation of this series from Rheem, called "Proterra" can be had for $1269, a slight discount compared to full price (15% for my location). After carefully examining specs, photos, etc - it seems that the only difference with the Proterra series is built-in leak detection with auto-shutoff. FYI if that feature is important to you, you can add it for $219:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem...513?NCNI-5
5) This is for 50 gallon. Looks like if you need 65 gal or 80 gal, the Proterra is actually on sale (whereas the Performance Platinum is full price), making the Proterra cheaper.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

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Nov 21, 2020 05:29 PM
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davejfr0Nov 21, 2020 05:29 PM
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Quote from skluvdeals :
I got a message for the heater saying not getting enough hot air. I want to install inlet duct to get air from within house. but the rheem duct adapter is 125$. Has anyone installed something cheaper ?
supplyhouse.com had it the cheapest that I saw...the outlet duct will be easier for me to install, so I went ahead and bought that, but could only find it from the rheem parts site and some other site that was more than MSRP, which ironically was the cheapest.

I also bought my leak sensor from supplyhouse for $140, compared to home depot's $220.
Nov 21, 2020 05:59 PM
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skluvdealsNov 21, 2020 05:59 PM
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Quote from davejfr0 :
supplyhouse.com had it the cheapest that I saw...the outlet duct will be easier for me to install, so I went ahead and bought that, but could only find it from the rheem parts site and some other site that was more than MSRP, which ironically was the cheapest.

I also bought my leak sensor from supplyhouse for $140, compared to home depot's $220.
Thankyou for the pointer.. it seems supplyhouse is out of stock.. BTW the manual says 8" insulated flex duct.. but looking at the picture of adapter, I believe the duct opening is 4 inch standard and another 4 inch of insulation on the side. could I just not install non insulated 4 inch duct ?

Also, Any DIYer made their custom adapter and not use the expensive ones.. Please share if you got it to work Smilie TIA
Nov 21, 2020 06:22 PM
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BlueChin8736Nov 21, 2020 06:22 PM
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I ordered the 50 gal unit around 12th and received shipping notification on 13th.
Estimated delivery date on HD website says 30th by NSD shipping. Shipping to Tucson AZ.

I tracked it on NSD website but their website says order is registered (Atlanta GA) but estimated delivery date is unknown.

Am I getting the water heater? Credit card was already charged by HD since it was in shipped status.

Nov 21, 2020 06:22 PM
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DealaMealNov 21, 2020 06:22 PM
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Don't know what kind of drain is on this thing but if it's the basic crap ones on everything else you should replace it. Cost about $15 and you will thank me later. By doing this and draining the tank once a year you should get about 20 years out of the tank. Also you should buy a corresponding aluminum anode sacrificial rod. Another $20-$25 bucks. Just put it in your water closet and change it out in 8 years. If you have hard water change it out in 5. Here's a good video on what to buy and how to install. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OBPJYg0o_o0. It's also 500 times easier installing before you fill the tank. There's a reason this water heater has a 10 year warranty. It's specifically designed to fail around year 12-13. That's because most people won't drain it once a year and very very few people change out the sacrificial rod. By doing this you will easily double or triple the life of your hot water heater.
Nov 21, 2020 06:36 PM
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jgoody92Nov 21, 2020 06:36 PM
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Not sure why everyone is getting told it is hard to install. If you have a pre-existing electric water heater its pretty straight forward. I had to do some copper sweating because both my old pipes went in the top of the heater versus the side on this one. I put new shutoff valves in line and a pvc condensate line. The wiring was the same as old one. I drained, removed my old one and had the new one up and running in maybe 3hrs. I'm not a plumber but I've done a little of everything through the years. I will say the heat pump is kinda loud but not unbearable. I installed in utility room in the basement. We can just hear it upstairs if nothing else is on.
Nov 21, 2020 06:49 PM
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ohiogatorsNov 21, 2020 06:49 PM
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Quote from skluvdeals :
I got a message for the heater saying not getting enough hot air. I want to install inlet duct to get air from within house. but the rheem duct adapter is 125$. Has anyone installed something cheaper ?

If you have to heat the air to supply the water heater, you're really not getting the efficiency gains that you bought a heat pump water heater for.
Nov 21, 2020 08:26 PM
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skluvdealsNov 21, 2020 08:26 PM
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I understand and thats why am looking to install a inlet duct Smilie

Quote from ohiogators :
If you have to heat the air to supply the water heater, you're really not getting the efficiency gains that you bought a heat pump water heater for.

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Nov 21, 2020 09:28 PM
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Quote from DealaMeal :
Don't know what kind of drain is on this thing but if it's the basic crap ones on everything else you should replace it. Cost about $15 and you will thank me later. By doing this and draining the tank once a year you should get about 20 years out of the tank. Also you should buy a corresponding aluminum anode sacrificial rod. Another $20-$25 bucks. Just put it in your water closet and change it out in 8 years. If you have hard water change it out in 5. Here's a good video on what to buy and how to install. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OBPJYg0o_o0. It's also 500 times easier installing before you fill the tank. There's a reason this water heater has a 10 year warranty. It's specifically designed to fail around year 12-13. That's because most people won't drain it once a year and very very few people change out the sacrificial rod. By doing this you will easily double or triple the life of your hot water heater.
The T&P valve should also be tested/cycled once per year. If it doesn't open easily, leak or has sediment in it, replace it. T&P valves, properly functioning one anyway, rarely last as long as the heater does. Most only last 3-5 years. I believe Rheem recommends changing it every 5 years even it checks OK.
Nov 21, 2020 09:40 PM
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skluvdealsNov 21, 2020 09:40 PM
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So after being happy for 1 day, I am hitting issues of slow recovery Frown even running in high demand mode has a significant wait. Can we use "electric" mode to get the water heated instantly ? I dont mind consuming high energy as long as family is happy.
Nov 21, 2020 09:55 PM
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poohbieNov 21, 2020 09:55 PM
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Quote from eliezerlp :
I plan on setting up some sort of recirculation system at some point. I came across this Rheem Tech Bulletin [amazonaws.com] which gives some information regarding their heat pump water heaters and recirculation systems.

I plan on making it somewhat smart and perhaps only circulate hot water when I predict that there will be a demand. I've got smart water and power usage monitoring so I will experiment a bit to try to find the right balance of comfort (instant hot water) and cost (water heater running more often).
Quote from funzie :
I've got and done all that too. Unless you have a very set schedule it's very hard to predict when you are going to use water. As always it's best to keep it simple. So just turning the pump on every 15 minutes to charge the line works well. That's what I do, as well as run it for a few minutes when the light switch comes on in the bathroom. The Grunfos pump have a "smart" feature to analyze usage, but I don't think it's smart at all. It would also be more beneficial to insulate the lines to prevent heat loss.

So from experience I've:
- Insulated both supply and return lines
- Run the pump for 3 minutes every 15 minutes.
- Run the pump for 5 minutes when a bathroom light turns on.
When you say insulating your supply and return lines, are you only talking about the portion sticking outside of the wall going into your water heater? I thought it was a good idea to do that, but the 2 plumbers I've had install water heaters told me its pointless as the piping in the walls isn't insulated.

I went old-school a long time ago and put the recirculation pump on a remote switch. Got some extra remotes for convenience. Turn it on/off when needed. Definitely not as convenient but the most energy-saving, and I had gotten tired of the water noise through the walls from the recirculation pump. And my water heater doesn't seem to break as quickly vs when I had it running 24/7.
Nov 21, 2020 10:06 PM
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funzieNov 21, 2020 10:06 PM
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Quote from poohbie :
When you say insulating your supply and return lines, are you only talking about the portion sticking outside of the wall going into your water heater? I thought it was a good idea to do that, but the 2 plumbers I've had install water heaters told me its pointless as the piping in the walls isn't insulated.

I went old-school a long time ago and put the recirculation pump on a remote switch. Got some extra remotes for convenience. Turn it on/off when needed. Definitely not as convenient but the most energy-saving, and I had gotten tired of the water noise through the walls from the recirculation pump. And my water heater doesn't seem to break as quickly vs when I had it running 24/7.
The insulation is not to prevent heat loss but to prevent condensation and mold growth. Keeping the heat in the pipe is an added benefit. Depends on a lot of factors too, like where the lines are or the climate you live in. But it's always a good idea to insulate. For example if you are in a cold climate and the line is in an unconditioned space like attic or basement condensation and moisture will occur which can lead to mold.
Nov 21, 2020 10:20 PM
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poohbieNov 21, 2020 10:20 PM
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Quote from funzie :
The insulation is not to prevent heat loss but to prevent condensation and mold growth. Keeping the heat in the pipe is an added benefit. Depends on a lot of factors too, like where the lines are or the climate you live in. But it's always a good idea to insulate. For example if you are in a cold climate and the line is in an unconditioned space like attic or basement condensation and moisture will occur which can lead to mold.
I put insulation on the water heater outlet pipe once, and I think it ended up locking in the condensation and causing more mold growth because I hadn't noticed that happening before I put on the insulation. Next time around, I got the kind of insulation with the adhesive in the slit to seal it after you put it on. Crossing my fingers that's the key to not having condensation/mold growth?

And which way should the recirculation pump be pumping the water? Mine has always drawn water away from the water heater's drain valve, but I had a plumber comment once that it's in the wrong direction. I do notice the hot water pressure goes up when the recirculation pump is turned on.
Nov 22, 2020 01:18 AM
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JuganhutNov 22, 2020 01:18 AM
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A couple of things I read and need to warn about that I see people posting.

Do not take hot air from attic. It is full of micro particles that will kill your unit in a year.

It dumps about 1-2 gallons of water a day. If you have a wall leading outside nearby, yes you can direct water out but make sure you put a much and/or a water trap to keep animals and the elements out. Also, if you can, put a hook where the pipe drains outside to catch the water and use it to water plants.

You can be creative with the intake and exhaust manifolds of needed. Check hardware store and you may find some cheaper that you can easily rig up.

These work better the more warm the air.
Nov 22, 2020 03:22 AM
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nadroj1485Nov 22, 2020 03:22 AM
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Quote from BlueChin8736 :
I ordered the 50 gal unit around 12th and received shipping notification on 13th.
Estimated delivery date on HD website says 30th by NSD shipping. Shipping to Tucson AZ.

I tracked it on NSD website but their website says order is registered (Atlanta GA) but estimated delivery date is unknown.

Am I getting the water heater? Credit card was already charged by HD since it was in shipped status.
I ordered on the 12th as well and mine was delivered yesterday. I never received a call to schedule delivery or anything but it was sitting on my front porch Friday evening. Mine still shows estimated delivery date as December 4th on the home depot website. I wouldn't get worried about it not being delivered until after the 30th if I was you.

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topchoNov 22, 2020 03:23 AM
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Quote from funzie :
The insulation is not to prevent heat loss but to prevent condensation and mold growth. Keeping the heat in the pipe is an added benefit. Depends on a lot of factors too, like where the lines are or the climate you live in. But it's always a good idea to insulate. For example if you are in a cold climate and the line is in an unconditioned space like attic or basement condensation and moisture will occur which can lead to mold.
Insulating the hot water line serves only one purpose- keeping the heat.

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