Model: M12 FUEL 12-Volt Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless Stubby 1/2 in. Impact Wrench with M12 2.0Ah Battery
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Looks like this 250 foot pounds breakaway torque. For comparison, their mid torque m18 gun ($199 tool only) is 600 and the high torque m18 ($299 tool only) is 1400.
Looks like this 250 foot pounds breakaway torque. For comparison, their mid torque m18 gun ($199 tool only) is 600 and the high torque m18 ($299 tool only) is 1400.
keep in mind the mid and high torque m18 tools are alot bigger than this stubby. 250 foot pounds is more than enough for the average backyard mechanic (wheel lugs, suspension, etc.)
Price-wise, this is just a warm deal. I'd say this is pretty much the regular price.
Also, note that you'll want a XC battery (3, 4, 6) for this tool because the CP 2.0 battery won't be enough to hit 250 foot pounds
Looks like this 250 foot pounds breakaway torque. For comparison, their mid torque m18 gun ($199 tool only) is 600 and the high torque m18 ($299 tool only) is 1400.
Good to know the numbers. Question I had, is that many smaller sized impact drivers put out 250 ft lbs of nut busting torque as well (for example, the dcf887). For lugs and other general automotive purposes (not tight spaces), is there any reason to pickup an m12 stubby, or might as well just use an adapter on the impact driver?
Edit: I realize using an adapter will lose a bit of torque application, but the numbers are still close enough to wonder.
Good to know the numbers. Question I had, is that many smaller sized impact drivers put out 250 ft lbs of nut busting torque as well (for example, the dcf887). For lugs and other general automotive purposes (not tight spaces), is there any reason to pickup an m12 stubby, or might as well just use an adapter on the impact driver?
Edit: I realize using an adapter will lose a bit of torque application, but the numbers are still close enough to wonder.
Googling says that dcf887 is 1825 inch pounds, which is 152 foot pounds. Impressive for an impact driver for sure. An adapter would make it less compact. But personally I use my cheap porter cable impact driver with an adapter for almost every automotive job I do. Shopping for a cordless ratchet right now—even less torque but I can break them free by hand and then pull the trigger. If you're just starting off, I think I'd get an impact driver first, then the mid torque wrench, then a cordless ratchet. I don't think I run into enough situations that would warrant buying this tool. But I'm just a weekend warrior, ymmv
Good to know the numbers. Question I had, is that many smaller sized impact drivers put out 250 ft lbs of nut busting torque as well (for example, the dcf887). For lugs and other general automotive purposes (not tight spaces), is there any reason to pickup an m12 stubby, or might as well just use an adapter on the impact driver?
I'm seeing DCF887 to have 1825 inch pounds of torque, which converts to about 152 feet pounds.
IMO the Stubby is a convenience tool. Tool is small (Good for tight spaces) and It's light (1 handed operation).
Whether thats worth it enough to you to get it, is totally up to you and your use cases
Googling says that dcf887 is 1825 inch pounds, which is 152 foot pounds. Impressive for an impact driver for sure. An adapter would make it less compact. But personally I use my cheap porter cable impact driver with an adapter for almost every automotive job I do. Shopping for a cordless ratchet right now—even less torque but I can break them free by hand and then pull the trigger. If you're just starting off, I think I'd get an impact driver first, then the mid torque wrench, then a cordless ratchet. I don't think I run into enough situations that would warrant buying this tool. But I'm just a weekend warrior, ymmv
Thanks for the reply. I think the numbers you found are the no load totals, I found the 3000 in lbs / 250 ft lbs nut busting numbers for the 887 on https://www.protoolreviews.com/to...iew/43232/ Was surprised by their test numbers but that's what made me think that it should work as a decent light impact wrench...
Similar situation to what you described, have several M12 tools and seen good things about the stubby here, but this looks like a pass for me unless I have some tight space engine work come up. Thanks for the feedback!
keep in mind the mid and high torque m18 tools are alot bigger than this stubby. 250 foot pounds is more than enough for the average backyard mechanic (wheel lugs, suspension, etc.)
Price-wise, this is just a warm deal. I'd say this is pretty much the regular price.
Also, note that you'll want a XC battery (3, 4, 6) for this tool because the CP 2.0 battery won't be enough to hit 250 foot pounds
Don't forget the 2855-20, same torque as the M12 but a bit newer and better lights. $199 tool only
I hate to give free advertisement but this little guy took off the axle Bolt in my Acura TL without a hiccup. Virtually eliminated the need for my big high torque impact. this is an amazing tool !I take it to the junkyard all the time to remove Rusty bolts etc
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Price-wise, this is just a warm deal. I'd say this is pretty much the regular price.
Also, note that you'll want a XC battery (3, 4, 6) for this tool because the CP 2.0 battery won't be enough to hit 250 foot pounds
Good to know the numbers. Question I had, is that many smaller sized impact drivers put out 250 ft lbs of nut busting torque as well (for example, the dcf887). For lugs and other general automotive purposes (not tight spaces), is there any reason to pickup an m12 stubby, or might as well just use an adapter on the impact driver?
Edit: I realize using an adapter will lose a bit of torque application, but the numbers are still close enough to wonder.
Edit: I realize using an adapter will lose a bit of torque application, but the numbers are still close enough to wonder.
Googling says that dcf887 is 1825 inch pounds, which is 152 foot pounds. Impressive for an impact driver for sure. An adapter would make it less compact. But personally I use my cheap porter cable impact driver with an adapter for almost every automotive job I do. Shopping for a cordless ratchet right now—even less torque but I can break them free by hand and then pull the trigger. If you're just starting off, I think I'd get an impact driver first, then the mid torque wrench, then a cordless ratchet. I don't think I run into enough situations that would warrant buying this tool. But I'm just a weekend warrior, ymmv
IMO the Stubby is a convenience tool. Tool is small (Good for tight spaces) and It's light (1 handed operation).
Whether thats worth it enough to you to get it, is totally up to you and your use cases
Thanks for the reply. I think the numbers you found are the no load totals, I found the 3000 in lbs / 250 ft lbs nut busting numbers for the 887 on https://www.protoolrevi
Similar situation to what you described, have several M12 tools and seen good things about the stubby here, but this looks like a pass for me unless I have some tight space engine work come up. Thanks for the feedback!
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Price-wise, this is just a warm deal. I'd say this is pretty much the regular price.
Also, note that you'll want a XC battery (3, 4, 6) for this tool because the CP 2.0 battery won't be enough to hit 250 foot pounds
Don't forget the 2855-20, same torque as the M12 but a bit newer and better lights. $199 tool only
I mean $179 for a 12V impact driver? That's considered a SD?
I can't imagine it being "stubby" makes it worth $100+ more than a 20V impact driver.
I'm a tool guy, and have most of the B&D 20V set, and the pricing of those tools vs this is sooo much more reasonable.
I mean $179 for a 12V impact driver? That's considered a SD?
I can't imagine it being "stubby" makes it worth $100+ more than a 20V impact driver.
I'm a tool guy, and have most of the B&D 20V set, and the pricing of those tools vs this is sooo much more reasonable.
B&D. Not the same power and durability as Milwaukee. Can't compare a Ford Focus to a Lexus Ls460. Come on.
What's the refund value on the battery then, $65? That's insane!
Might as well get last gens mid torque for $199, 2860-20, for $199. Or better yet, get it with a free 5.0 like I did.