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Japanese Harima Kugihiki Flush Cutting Hand Saw

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Woodcraft has select Japanese Kugihiki/Gyokucho Handsaw on sale for 50% Off listed below. Shipping is $4.99 (& may vary depending on location)

Thanks to community member MissleBear for finding this deal

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Woodcraft has two different models of their popular Japanese made hand saws on sale in this months flier.

The Gyokucho Razorsaw Dozuki hand saw (No. 306) with Replaceable Blade is a dovetail pull saw with a spine running the entire length of the blade. This saw has very fine teeth and is used for making finish cuts for joinery and other finish work. Cuts are very smooth; with practice you can make finish cuts that don't need sanding or chisel finish work.

Because the spine runs the length of the blade the steel is very thin with minimal kerf (0.012"). Teeth are impulse hardened for extended wear. The blade length is 9½˝ and overall length is 21˝. 18 TPI with a curved end for cutting veneer and starting cuts in mid-panel. Replacement blade #155684.

The Harima "Kugihiki" Flush Cutting saw has a spineless, flexible blade used for flush cutting dowels, pegs, plugs, etc. The 5 3/4" blade has 22 TPI with a 0 set so there is minimal marring of the finish. Also rattan/bamboo wrapped wooden handle.

Free shipping with code: MASTERBUILDER

Prices valid until 4/30/21.

https://www.woodcraft.com/product...g-hand-saw

https://www.woodcraft.com/product...e-gyokucho OOS
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Created 04-01-2021 at 07:19 AM by MissileBear
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An update:

Stopped into my local store and ordered one of each of this as they were already sold out. They are expecting more stock in this area on Monday, but we'll see if I get the call this week or not.

Looks like the code SAWDUST is in fact dead for good. The store associate told me this was a temporary code due to the Covid situation and was deactivated yesterday morning. He was told by his superiors that this is a permanent change :/

Kudos to yardost for finding the code MASTERBUILDER which at the time of this posting appears to work for free shipping.

For those inquiring, there are a few major differences between Japanese style saws and the Western style saws. Most notably Japanese saws cut on the pull stroke, Western saws cut on the push stroke. This is why the Western saws have a pistol style grip as opposed to the horizontal barrel grip on the Japanese saws...it's a different movement & body mechanic.

Western saws use a set to alternately push the teeth outward; this is done to prevent sawdust from binding the blade. This is also why the kerf (the slot made by the saw) is wider than the thickness of the saw blade itself. A Japanese saw has a 0 degree set - instead the teeth are alternately sharpened at an angle. The kerf on a Japanese saw is the same as the thickness of the blade.

Western style saws generally need thicker and/or deeper blades as they have to be able to withstand the force of being pushed through wood. Japanese saws can be thinner as they are pulled through.

Most modern Japanese saws have impulse hardened teeth. This means that the steel will be too hard to sharpen and are therefore disposable (also why replacement blades are sold). Non-hardened teeth can be sharpened with a specific file called a Feather file. It's a very tedious process.

Different Japanese saw types:

Ryoba - A spineless saw with teeth on both sides of the blade. These are general purpose saws that usually have a higher TPI for rip cutting on one side, and a finer TPI for crosscutting on the other. There are different TPI combinations for hardwood/softwood, different lengths, and blade thicknesses. The lack of spine allows for deep cuts.

Kataba - A saw that has either a partial spine or no spine designed for crosscuts. Generally a finer TPI there are also different combinations of these. Teeth are on one side only.

Dozuki - A spined saw with a finer TPI and thinner blade meant for dovetails and other fine joinery tasks. The spine limits this saw to shallow cuts, but the fine TPI and thin blade affords very precise, finish cuts.

Mawashibiki - The Japanese style keyhole saw. Think of this as a stiff coping saw; it allows curved cuts and cuts from the center of material (via a drilled hole).

Kugihiki - A spineless, Japanese flush cutting saw. Flexible, thin blades allow making flush cuts on pegs, dowels, dovetail ends, and other similar joinery tasks. The blades on these are generally narrow and can reach into smaller openings. These come single and double sided.

There are others, but those are the main ones you are likely to see. All of these saws are fine woodworking saws....if you are framing or wondering why you can't just use a Sawzall or Circular Saw, then assuredly these are not the tools for you. If you are building furniture, making boxes, doing trim work, or any kind of precision woodworking tasks these likely have a home in your collection. In today's world I think of these as an accentuating tool; they probably don't replace electric tools, but work when a powertool will not.

There are a lot of arguments about which is superior....Western style or Japanese. I personally prefer a nice Western style backsaw since I learned with that tool a long time ago, but I have several Japanese saws in my collection since they server a different purpose. There's no question that a Japanese saw makes cleaner cut, however as a practice you should plan on cleaning up your cut with a rasp/chisel/plane/etc. I've found that the thinner, more flexible blades produce a more variable cut, predominantly because I haven't mastered Japanese saws.

Sorry for the long read, but thought it might be helpful to someone.
Also worth mentioning; you can order these if they are backordered (online and in-store) for this price, however there is often a wait time of several weeks to get these in. The last saws I ordered took about a month to come in. The store associates have told me these are very quick to sell out in most locations and they have to wait for more stock. Buyer beware - that said, I've never had an order cancelled on me.

If you can wait, this is pretty much the best deal (40%-50% off the normal price) you'll find on similar Japanese handsaws. Blade replacements alone generally cost more than this.
I use it mostly to cut dowels flush with the workpiece when covering screw holes. Very common in pocket hole joinery as well as many other types of joinery.

Idk why but I get giddy whenever I see a woodworking deal. I don't need this but TU

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04-02-2021 at 11:52 AM.
04-02-2021 at 11:52 AM.
Quote from dp77777 :
This seems kinda like a good deal if slick deals was around in 1800

Why wouldn't anyone just use a battery circular saw?
As others have mentioned, it's a lot more useful to have some of these precision saws for finer woodworking. I didn't see the value much in these kinds of hand tools until I started doing more woodworking for fun.

These kind of saws are perfect for cutting dowels since they are a lot more flexible than power tools.
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04-02-2021 at 12:30 PM.
04-02-2021 at 12:30 PM.
@missilebear amazing. thank you.
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jakinaka
04-02-2021 at 12:33 PM.
04-02-2021 at 12:33 PM.
Why not use a wood chisel and a gentle tapping instead of this? Does this provide that much more precision?
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04-02-2021 at 01:16 PM.
04-02-2021 at 01:16 PM.
I'm still waiting on mine from the beginning of January.
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04-02-2021 at 01:39 PM.
04-02-2021 at 01:39 PM.
[QUOTE=yardost;146402765]Use code "masterbuilder" for free shipping[/QUOTE

This works, they need to update the main post as sawdust does not work
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04-02-2021 at 01:44 PM.
04-02-2021 at 01:44 PM.
I ordered both of these this morning without the new free shipping code and my order has already shipped!
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04-02-2021 at 01:53 PM.
04-02-2021 at 01:53 PM.
Ordered with the "masterbuilder" free shipping code and already shipped.
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04-02-2021 at 02:48 PM.
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is this too heavy for backpacking?
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04-02-2021 at 03:45 PM.
04-02-2021 at 03:45 PM.
Gorgeous saws, that's for sure.

But I must resist buying more tools that I would seldom use.
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04-02-2021 at 04:01 PM.
04-02-2021 at 04:01 PM.
Quote from ogp :
Same here.
I also ordered this one but went with Amazon over Woodcraft for a buck or two more. Got it in like a week.​
Thanks, going to get that one, went to cancel my order and found out that Woodcraft had already charged my credit card in January... which is very shady if they don't have the product much less it hasn't been shipped...it might even be illegal? I, won't be giving those guys any more business.
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04-02-2021 at 04:31 PM.
04-02-2021 at 04:31 PM.
I don't get this one if you can get a better tool for much less
https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-Pr...1003172560
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04-02-2021 at 05:25 PM.
04-02-2021 at 05:25 PM.
Quote from Banana_Fly :
I don't get this one if you can get a better tool for much less
https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-Pr...1003172560
Not in any way a comparable saw.

That's a Western style saw with an offset handle and swivelling blade. 14 TPI, .030" blade thickness, labelled as a door jam saw. Made in China; no mention of steel type or hardening.

Listed as a contractor saw.
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04-02-2021 at 08:51 PM.
04-02-2021 at 08:51 PM.
I order the last time they were on sale. Mine shipped next day. Don't think woodcraft is prioritizing back orders.
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04-03-2021 at 02:38 AM.
04-03-2021 at 02:38 AM.
this or suizan stuff over at katz moses' shop?
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04-03-2021 at 06:37 AM.
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Quote from belmontisan :
is this too heavy for backpacking?
Too heavy? No, these are pretty lightweight, but they really are not designed for cutting firewood and not meant for the abuses of being lugged around in that fashion. Unless you are woodworking in the brush, I'd recommend a more camping specific option....preferably something that folds so as not to shred the rest of your gear or require a separate protective sheath.
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Why not use a wood chisel and a gentle tapping instead of this? Does this provide that much more precision?
With a dovetail guide (slot style, magnetic) you could get a finish cut with the Dozuki saw. You are still going to need a chisel to clean up the dovetail bottom. While you can cut dovetails entirely with a chisel, making cuts with the saw will speed up the process quite a bit.
Quote from plasticpopcorn4 :
this or suizan stuff over at katz moses' shop?
The Suizan saws appear to be pretty comparable in price and get favorable reviews. I don't own one and cannot do a side by side comparison...but I see Gyokucho, Suizan, and Z-Saw brands all used pretty frequently and referenced in forums and the like. There are a bunch of reviews on the YouTubes if you're into that kind of thing.
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