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Model: Epson Home Cinema 4010 4K PRO-UHD® Projector with Advanced 3-Chip Design and HDR (Refurbished)
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I personally think this is the best projector under $2k. Best contrast under $2k (excluding the 5040UB refurb), great color, very bright, motorized lens so it is easy to install and can do 2.4:1 screens. It has two issues and they need to be known about before buying. The first is that it has only a HDMI 1.4 jack and that makes it not be able to handle 4K HDR at 60hz. This also limits some devices from being able to send it 4K HDR at any refresh rate. Devices that can send it the right signal are the Apple TV 4K, Nvidia Shield, Google Chromecast with GTV, and TiVo Stream (Roku and FireTV don't play well with it). The ATV4K is the easiest to use and has auto frame rate/range match that does indeed just work. It is my recommended device to use with this projector. This can game at 4K SDR but I believe the Xbox can have issues sending it the right signal, not sure though. The other issue this projector has is it's HDR handling is rough. You really need to create some custom settings for each type of HDR and then save them to the presets. I recommend making custom gamma settings for HDR mastered at 1000 and 4000 nits. Its a bit of a pain, but can work out really well.
If you are using this for blu ray 4k discs then just get a Panasonic UB420 and use its HDR Optimizer. This solves all the HDR issues and will result in a great picture. If mainly using it for discs then you don't even need to worry about the HDMI 1.4 issue either.10.1.1
The 4040, and 5040 both have the same issues listed as above but they add another issue to the mix and that's their power supplies are known to fail. Epson has apparently fixed that with the refurb ones but that's only if they were refurbished for the power supply issue. You are kinda rolling the dice to see if you get one with a good or bad power supply. What happens is that after some time (1 to ? years) the projector will just stop turning on. Some swear by the refurbs and say its not a risk now, I don't and avoid them. The 4040 is more worth the risk to me at $1000 because it is so much cheaper and comes with a 3 year warranty. It is a lot of projector for only a grand. But so is this one for only $1440.
I don't know if I'd get any of the aforementioned if one of my goals is gaming though. You won't be able to do 4K HDR gaming and that seems like it would be a big bummer when buying a new console. The Epson 3800 can do it and can be had for $1500. The 5050 refurb at $2500 can do it and would be a large upgrade due to its contrast improvements. Then there's a bunch of DLP's that will do 4K HDR gaming well but with worse contrast.
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I don't know anything about Wal-Mart refurb deals. Can anyone with insight shared their experience?
At face value, this is tempting
I bought a PS4 pro refurbished from Walmart years back and it looked brand new when I got it. Never had an issue with it. Not sure who did the refurbishment. If it says manufacturer refurbished it may be direct sales from epson to reach a larger audience through Walmart.
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05-27-2021 at 07:29 AM.
I personally think this is the best projector under $2k. Best contrast under $2k (excluding the 5040UB refurb), great color, very bright, motorized lens so it is easy to install and can do 2.4:1 screens. It has two issues and they need to be known about before buying. The first is that it has only a HDMI 1.4 jack and that makes it not be able to handle 4K HDR at 60hz. This also limits some devices from being able to send it 4K HDR at any refresh rate. Devices that can send it the right signal are the Apple TV 4K, Nvidia Shield, Google Chromecast with GTV, and TiVo Stream (Roku and FireTV don't play well with it). The ATV4K is the easiest to use and has auto frame rate/range match that does indeed just work. It is my recommended device to use with this projector. This can game at 4K SDR but I believe the Xbox can have issues sending it the right signal, not sure though. The other issue this projector has is it's HDR handling is rough. You really need to create some custom settings for each type of HDR and then save them to the presets. I recommend making custom gamma settings for HDR mastered at 1000 and 4000 nits. Its a bit of a pain, but can work out really well.
If you are using this for blu ray 4k discs then just get a Panasonic UB420 and use its HDR Optimizer. This solves all the HDR issues and will result in a great picture. If mainly using it for discs then you don't even need to worry about the HDMI 1.4 issue either.10.1.1
I personally think this is the best projector under $2k. Best contrast under $2k (excluding the 5040UB refurb), great color, very bright, motorized lens so it is easy to install and can do 2.4:1 screens. It has two issues and they need to be known about before buying. The first is that it has only a HDMI 1.4 jack and that makes it not be able to handle 4K HDR at 60hz. This also limits some devices from being able to send it 4K HDR at any refresh rate. Devices that can send it the right signal are the Apple TV 4K, Nvidia Shield, Google Chromecast with GTV, and TiVo Stream (Roku and FireTV don't play well with it). The ATV4K is the easiest to use and has auto frame rate/range match that does indeed just work. It is my recommended device to use with this projector. This can game at 4K SDR but I believe the Xbox can have issues sending it the right signal, not sure though. The other issue this projector has is it's HDR handling is rough. You really need to create some custom settings for each type of HDR and then save them to the presets. I recommend making custom gamma settings for HDR mastered at 1000 and 4000 nits. Its a bit of a pain, but can work out really well.
If you are using this for blu ray 4k discs then just get a Panasonic UB420 and use its HDR Optimizer. This solves all the HDR issues and will result in a great picture. If mainly using it for discs then you don't even need to worry about the HDMI 1.4 issue either.10.1.1
Thanks for that rundown! Sounds like you know your stuff, so I'll ask - compared to the Epson refurbs that have been listed from them directly lately (4040 and 5040), which do you think is the best bang for the buck?
I'm replacing a very old Optoma that has outlived it's usefulness in a very specific use - in a dark basement with a giant wall, so it's a prime situation for a projector over a TV. My problem is I want to pick up a PS5 (hopefully sometime in 21?) and want to be future proofed to some extent with the projector I buy without breaking the bank.
Thanks for that rundown! Sounds like you know your stuff, so I'll ask - compared to the Epson refurbs that have been listed from them directly lately (4040 and 5040), which do you think is the best bang for the buck?
I'm replacing a very old Optoma that has outlived it's usefulness in a very specific use - in a dark basement with a giant wall, so it's a prime situation for a projector over a TV. My problem is I want to pick up a PS5 (hopefully sometime in 21?) and want to be future proofed to some extent with the projector I buy without breaking the bank.
Future-proof is a silly term in this day and age. There are so many new technologies introduced every year that you can't be "future-proof."
The closest you can get to "future-proof" is having Dolby vision and hdmi 2.1, but even then those don't have a set life. Nor do they really matter for a projector that is the limiting factor.
I've had the 4010 in my dedicated theater room with a 135" screen for almost 3 years now, picture and brightness are great, no problems so far movies and football look fantastic on this.
Is this crisp/sharp enough to use a PC with, for casual browsing et al.
My only question is, why? Why spend $1500 on a home theater projector for casual browsing of the internet? Unless you just have money like that, in which case, do your thing. However, this is designed in Epson's family of premium home theater projectors for the purpose of home theater experience. To buy it and use it as a glorified monitor is a waste of the device's potential and could be achieved with projectors at a lower cost.
Says it comes with a 2 year warranty which would match what Epson always has on their refurb projectors. Their service is good too.10.1.1
I've currently got the Epson 6030UB and I think I've just decided to hang on to it for a while longer. I have zero complaints with my Epson and it has blown anything else I've ever used out of the water. Maybe it sounds fanboy-ish but I'm sticking with Epson's until I eventually trade over to an ultra short throw laser projector setup. They just continue to put out units that top reviewer's lists of the best home theater projectors and I understand why
Future-proof is a silly term in this day and age. There are so many new technologies introduced every year that you can't be "future-proof."
The closest you can get to "future-proof" is having Dolby vision and hdmi 2.1, but even then those don't have a set life. Nor do they really matter for a projector that is the limiting factor.
I'm with you there - but I'm not really trying to future proof anything - the PS5 is out now and the specs are available. I'm more concerned that whatever I'm buying isn't already *too* obsolete. I don't mind it missing a few specs or features, but I need the setup to not be missing something essential/critical to the experience out of the box.
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If you are using this for blu ray 4k discs then just get a Panasonic UB420 and use its HDR Optimizer. This solves all the HDR issues and will result in a great picture. If mainly using it for discs then you don't even need to worry about the HDMI 1.4 issue either.10.1.1
I don't know if I'd get any of the aforementioned if one of my goals is gaming though. You won't be able to do 4K HDR gaming and that seems like it would be a big bummer when buying a new console. The Epson 3800 can do it and can be had for $1500. The 5050 refurb at $2500 can do it and would be a large upgrade due to its contrast improvements. Then there's a bunch of DLP's that will do 4K HDR gaming well but with worse contrast.
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At face value, this is tempting
At face value, this is tempting
I bought a PS4 pro refurbished from Walmart years back and it looked brand new when I got it. Never had an issue with it. Not sure who did the refurbishment. If it says manufacturer refurbished it may be direct sales from epson to reach a larger audience through Walmart.
At face value, this is tempting
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank pixelpusher15
If you are using this for blu ray 4k discs then just get a Panasonic UB420 and use its HDR Optimizer. This solves all the HDR issues and will result in a great picture. If mainly using it for discs then you don't even need to worry about the HDMI 1.4 issue either.10.1.1
At face value, this is tempting
Bought a refurb 65" OLED from them in 2017 and it turned out great.
If you are using this for blu ray 4k discs then just get a Panasonic UB420 and use its HDR Optimizer. This solves all the HDR issues and will result in a great picture. If mainly using it for discs then you don't even need to worry about the HDMI 1.4 issue either.10.1.1
I'm replacing a very old Optoma that has outlived it's usefulness in a very specific use - in a dark basement with a giant wall, so it's a prime situation for a projector over a TV. My problem is I want to pick up a PS5 (hopefully sometime in 21?) and want to be future proofed to some extent with the projector I buy without breaking the bank.
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I'm replacing a very old Optoma that has outlived it's usefulness in a very specific use - in a dark basement with a giant wall, so it's a prime situation for a projector over a TV. My problem is I want to pick up a PS5 (hopefully sometime in 21?) and want to be future proofed to some extent with the projector I buy without breaking the bank.
Future-proof is a silly term in this day and age. There are so many new technologies introduced every year that you can't be "future-proof."
The closest you can get to "future-proof" is having Dolby vision and hdmi 2.1, but even then those don't have a set life. Nor do they really matter for a projector that is the limiting factor.
My only question is, why? Why spend $1500 on a home theater projector for casual browsing of the internet? Unless you just have money like that, in which case, do your thing. However, this is designed in Epson's family of premium home theater projectors for the purpose of home theater experience. To buy it and use it as a glorified monitor is a waste of the device's potential and could be achieved with projectors at a lower cost.
I've currently got the Epson 6030UB and I think I've just decided to hang on to it for a while longer. I have zero complaints with my Epson and it has blown anything else I've ever used out of the water. Maybe it sounds fanboy-ish but I'm sticking with Epson's until I eventually trade over to an ultra short throw laser projector setup. They just continue to put out units that top reviewer's lists of the best home theater projectors and I understand why
The closest you can get to "future-proof" is having Dolby vision and hdmi 2.1, but even then those don't have a set life. Nor do they really matter for a projector that is the limiting factor.