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I gave the Z Grills Pellet Smoker a good once over in Lowes when it was on sale for $218. I quickly passed...
These guys think I'm exaggerating for some reason. I was legitimately blown away how bad it was in person. I was dead set on buying it based on the Amazon reviews. 30 seconds into seeing it in person I wouldn't pay $200 for it.
I recommend a HeaterMeter or Fireboard with blower. This is truly set and forget (as long as you have fuel).
If you want something set it and forget it without a PiD, you will want to look at a ceramic Kamodo style (think BGE). There isn't anything that maintains a consistent (low) temperature over long periods like a ceramic Kamodo.
I recommend lump charcoal for fuel.
I still have the dual fuel Masterbuilt mentioned earlier. I use the propane to start a pan of charcoal and then just use the lump charcoal controlled by my HeaterMeter. This is great for shorter cooks (wings, ribs, etc.). For longer cooks (pork but, brisket, etc.) I use my ceramic with HeaterMeter. It can run for 24 hrs easily.
I would say to stay away from this particular one. It's supposedly has serious design issues.
I'm not sure what you classify as "good" but is shouldn't be that difficult to find a charcoal or gas (or combo) for under $300 (maybe not pellet as I haven't researched those). I wouldn't blow the bank on your 1st smoker. This electric deal is still live at $100 and this dual one was live for quite a while - I got it as my 1st smoker. One thing to note with Charcoal is that it is more difficult to hold temps. I've only used mine with gas so far and I've been quite happy with it, but still learning how to get the temps to hold better. I'm still experimenting with the tyrpes of wood chips, whether to soak or not and how much to use. I've only done a couple cooks so far, and think I will have it down pat pretty soon as far as what works for me.
if you can afford a recteq do it! i had my rt700 for 2 years now moving to an offset smoker now
It's a bit over $300 for a 26" Weber kettle. It has a lot of space for indirect cooking and makes a great smoker.
Alternatively, used 22s sell for $40 - $60 across the country. Add a Slow n Sear and maybe a Tip Top Temp if you are worried about temp control and a chimney for starting your charcoal without lighter fluid. You would be around half your budget so add a remote thermometer. Or you could probably score a used 18" Weber Smokey mountain for $150 - $200 but you lose grilling ability. These really need a cover if you keep it outside. I've gotten almost all my kettles used and unregistered with Weber, so you can sometimes get years of warranty coverage, too. Hard to beat that deal.
Pellet wise, my Green Mountain Grills Davy Crockett (now Trek) has been solid. It has a PID controller and wifi. I tried to buy a replacement power cord since mine got chewed by a critter but they went ahead and warrantied it even though they didn't need to. The thing with pellet grills is people usually buy them wanting easy. Pellet grills have to get cleaned out often and parts break. Maintaining them is not nearly as easy as making a small vent adjustment for a charcoal fire. They can be convenient, but they aren't great as your only grill if you plan to use it a lot and they're pretty poor grills if you want to grill and sear food. You really have to spend $2k+ to get a great one.
If you want masterbuilt, the gravity series grills seems decent enough. They got really cheap at Walmarts last year. No way would I buy one at full price but I would get one to try sub $200.
I'm a little biased towards Weber. They're just so simple and durable it's hard to beat the value, even if you are buying new.
(excuse the long O.T. to focus of O.P.'s thread)
Hard to beat the value of weber indeed. Even more amazing than how well they hold up, is how easy they are to use & control temp. I'd been smoking first on my 18 then the past year on a borrowed used 22" kettle. stock charcoal baskets (never invested in nice SNS or similar), but mainly by snake method smoked everything on it, from typical briskets/butts/ribs to cold smoking cheese and salmon over the freeze with the a-maze-n pellet tube sans coal; meatloafs, roasts, smoked/braised beef shanks, basically ended up using that kettle as an oven on a regular basis for everything i could
Its only limitation for me was size, as the snake takes up too much real estate to fit anything more than the tiniest of briskets, or a couple racks of sveltest st. Louis cut ribs without molesting them too much to get more on (racks, folding, tetrissing). And although this was a old used one on indefinite loan, I did not have authorization to cut a hole into it for the probe wire grommet I needed, once I discovered the must have smoke life changing nature of wireless grate & meat probes. Poking them through lid gasket gaps or vent holes became more hacky than I was willing to continue to deal with, over what was already somewhat hacky in a kettle smoker.
my first instinct was trza's first suggestion, upgrade to a 26" kettle, because it's what I know, plenty of real estate even after giving the snake has room to breathe, and would be free to try to cut my own grommet probe hole in it. Then luckily stars aligned and I recently happened upon a deal for a used WSM. only took a chance on whim b/c it was super cheap, and immediately am even more blown away by its simplicity of use, all day efficiency, and just overall brilliant foolproof design. There was no learning curve at all. before I did a practice run to see how to manage the temp, it cleaned it up shiny like new as all webers seem to do, being someone who hates buying used stuff (almost always rather go lesser and get new for same money). But some kind of magic in that coating, that seems to last forever, not only the design.
In the meantime, it had been super hard to pass on all these pellet & charcoal gravity fed deals around here (along with cheap big box offsets I've had good luck on as guest cooker), because despite the obvious somewhat disposable nature of their quality when you see them in person, i would still have been more than happy with a couple/few years use for as cheap as they are & as often as I smoke, and it was hard to resist the allure of these things that impart that flavor we all seek, but that's basically a set it & forget it oven... had I known that the WSM's effectively function filling almost exactly that need despite not being computer/fan controlled, I'd have done this a long time ago. You watch a YT video on how to set up, basically dumping the coals in then a few lit is WAY easier than building the perfect snake keeping your meat out of its way... am super amazed at how consistently that temp stays once you nudge the bottom vents into position to hold the temp where you want it, then can really walk away. wsm even had my probe wire pass-thru grommet hole already factory cut/ included. Had I known it'd have been this easy and effective, even easier to clean than kettle (more parts but less unweildy altogether), I'd have done it long ago.
Although only having experience with a few of their models, like trza I too am super weber biased, but I think we are for good reason. Can 2nd the recommendation (7th? itt) for a WSM for smoking to anyone, with 100% confidence.
I would seriously suggest an electric for what you said, best set and forget out there (if you have an outdoor outlet or can run cord through a door). Usually cheapest and I've had one for years and love how easy and consistent it works! Usually smoke butts or briskets overnight and have one helluva breakfast waiting
Agree. Electric is a great first smoker. Snobs will turn up their nose but just stop hanging around with snobs and everyone will love your food.
Sat am. I just put 2 chickens into mine for guests at noon. They come our great.
Smoked chicken is incredible and easy.
Oh..and if you use a pellet smoker all the time...I hear guys gripe about the cost of pellets for an all day smoke.
If you are just starting out, go for the electric smoker. I have had the digital Masterbuilt for 4 years and it is still going strong. During the summer, it holds a fairly constant temperature, but it sort of struggles a bit during cold seasons.
The one thing I would absolutely do with an electric smoker is get a pellet tray. Properly lit with a torch and given the right amount of air, the pellets will smolder for 8 to 12 hours, giving you plenty of good smoke. For more intense, but shorter, smoke you can just light both end to get double the smoke. Another advantage of these trays is that you can use them to cold smoke cheese or make wonderful smoked salmon.
The pellet tray adds the convenience of a pellet smoker to any other type. Just buy pellets of whatever kind of wood you like and don't be afraid to experiment with different kinds.
I bought the electric smoker figuring once I got experience with it I would go for something really good. Now I figure I will just keep using it until it breaks and probably just get another one.
BTW - We live in Kansas City and have done publicity for the American Royal, where we always get to taste the best BBQ in the world (Not what the public gets), so we know what the "good stuff is".
If you are just starting out, go for the electric smoker. I have had the digital Masterbuilt for 4 years and it is still going strong. During the summer, it holds a fairly constant temperature, but it sort of struggles a bit during cold seasons.
The one thing I would absolutely do with an electric smoker is get a pellet tray. Properly lit with a torch and given the right amount of air, the pellets will smolder for 8 to 12 hours, giving you plenty of good smoke. For more intense, but shorter, smoke you can just light both end to get double the smoke. Another advantage of these trays is that you can use them to cold smoke cheese or make wonderful smoked salmon.
The pellet tray adds the convenience of a pellet smoker to any other type. Just buy pellets of whatever kind of wood you like and don't be afraid to experiment with different kinds.
I bought the electric smoker figuring once I got experience with it I would go for something really good. Now I figure I will just keep using it until it breaks and probably just get another one.
BTW - We live in Kansas City and have done publicity for the American Royal, where we always get to taste the best BBQ in the world (Not what the public gets), so we know what the "good stuff is".
Good stuff.
I've found that just smoke for the first 2-4 hrs is plenty on a well seasoned smoker. Everyone eats a different level of smoke they desire. Mine is on the lighter side.
I'm going to go ahead and suggest you ignore anyone who gives you the advice to buy an electric smoker. That is not a smoker. That is an oven that people put wood chips in. I have owned electric "smokers", pellet smokers, charcoal smokers, and offset smokers. You get out of your product the effort you put into it. An electric "smoker" is easy, but it produces oven-quality food. Pellet smokers are barely a step up from that. These charcoal smokers produce a fantastic product relative to the effort involved (as easy as a pellet smoker). An offset requires the most babying, but will produce the cleanest/most robust smoke flavor if that's what you desire.
Lmao, please go make a post over at smokingmeatforums telling them that electric smokers are no good and aren't even smokers. 🤣🤣🤣
I could throw a smoke tube in my kitchens oven. If you want to call that a smoker, be my guest.
You could also have a smokey kitchen for the rest of the year. What type of ridiculous false equivalency is that? The electric units in question are widely accepted as [spoiler alert] smokers. Just because they don't fit some weird snobby pedantic box you think needs to be checked doesn't change the fact that they're still smokers, and still can do an excellent job of smoking if you use them properly.
You could also have a smokey kitchen for the rest of the year. What type of ridiculous false equivalency is that? The electric units in question are widely accepted as [spoiler alert] smokers. Just because they don't fit some weird snobby pedantic box you think needs to be checked doesn't change the fact that they're still smokers, and still can do an excellent job of smoking if you use them properly.
Sorry for triggering you. Over a smoker of all things. Lmfao.
Sorry for triggering you. Over a smoker of all things. Lmfao.
Heat source does provide flavor. But seasoning and wood is what makes it a smoker.
The food is awesome and everyone loves it. Can't really argue with that.
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These guys think I'm exaggerating for some reason. I was legitimately blown away how bad it was in person. I was dead set on buying it based on the Amazon reviews. 30 seconds into seeing it in person I wouldn't pay $200 for it.
I'm glad I waited.
Auber makes some good ones: https://www.auberins.co
I recommend a HeaterMeter or Fireboard with blower. This is truly set and forget (as long as you have fuel).
If you want something set it and forget it without a PiD, you will want to look at a ceramic Kamodo style (think BGE). There isn't anything that maintains a consistent (low) temperature over long periods like a ceramic Kamodo.
I recommend lump charcoal for fuel.
I still have the dual fuel Masterbuilt mentioned earlier. I use the propane to start a pan of charcoal and then just use the lump charcoal controlled by my HeaterMeter. This is great for shorter cooks (wings, ribs, etc.). For longer cooks (pork but, brisket, etc.) I use my ceramic with HeaterMeter. It can run for 24 hrs easily.
I'm not sure what you classify as "good" but is shouldn't be that difficult to find a charcoal or gas (or combo) for under $300 (maybe not pellet as I haven't researched those). I wouldn't blow the bank on your 1st smoker. This electric deal is still live at $100 and this dual one was live for quite a while - I got it as my 1st smoker. One thing to note with Charcoal is that it is more difficult to hold temps. I've only used mine with gas so far and I've been quite happy with it, but still learning how to get the temps to hold better. I'm still experimenting with the tyrpes of wood chips, whether to soak or not and how much to use. I've only done a couple cooks so far, and think I will have it down pat pretty soon as far as what works for me.
if you can afford a recteq do it! i had my rt700 for 2 years now moving to an offset smoker now
Alternatively, used 22s sell for $40 - $60 across the country. Add a Slow n Sear and maybe a Tip Top Temp if you are worried about temp control and a chimney for starting your charcoal without lighter fluid. You would be around half your budget so add a remote thermometer. Or you could probably score a used 18" Weber Smokey mountain for $150 - $200 but you lose grilling ability. These really need a cover if you keep it outside. I've gotten almost all my kettles used and unregistered with Weber, so you can sometimes get years of warranty coverage, too. Hard to beat that deal.
Pellet wise, my Green Mountain Grills Davy Crockett (now Trek) has been solid. It has a PID controller and wifi. I tried to buy a replacement power cord since mine got chewed by a critter but they went ahead and warrantied it even though they didn't need to. The thing with pellet grills is people usually buy them wanting easy. Pellet grills have to get cleaned out often and parts break. Maintaining them is not nearly as easy as making a small vent adjustment for a charcoal fire. They can be convenient, but they aren't great as your only grill if you plan to use it a lot and they're pretty poor grills if you want to grill and sear food. You really have to spend $2k+ to get a great one.
If you want masterbuilt, the gravity series grills seems decent enough. They got really cheap at Walmarts last year. No way would I buy one at full price but I would get one to try sub $200.
I'm a little biased towards Weber. They're just so simple and durable it's hard to beat the value, even if you are buying new.
Hard to beat the value of weber indeed. Even more amazing than how well they hold up, is how easy they are to use & control temp. I'd been smoking first on my 18 then the past year on a borrowed used 22" kettle. stock charcoal baskets (never invested in nice SNS or similar), but mainly by snake method smoked everything on it, from typical briskets/butts/ribs to cold smoking cheese and salmon over the freeze with the a-maze-n pellet tube sans coal; meatloafs, roasts, smoked/braised beef shanks, basically ended up using that kettle as an oven on a regular basis for everything i could
Its only limitation for me was size, as the snake takes up too much real estate to fit anything more than the tiniest of briskets, or a couple racks of sveltest st. Louis cut ribs without molesting them too much to get more on (racks, folding, tetrissing). And although this was a old used one on indefinite loan, I did not have authorization to cut a hole into it for the probe wire grommet I needed, once I discovered the must have smoke life changing nature of wireless grate & meat probes. Poking them through lid gasket gaps or vent holes became more hacky than I was willing to continue to deal with, over what was already somewhat hacky in a kettle smoker.
my first instinct was trza's first suggestion, upgrade to a 26" kettle, because it's what I know, plenty of real estate even after giving the snake has room to breathe, and would be free to try to cut my own grommet probe hole in it. Then luckily stars aligned and I recently happened upon a deal for a used WSM. only took a chance on whim b/c it was super cheap, and immediately am even more blown away by its simplicity of use, all day efficiency, and just overall brilliant foolproof design. There was no learning curve at all. before I did a practice run to see how to manage the temp, it cleaned it up shiny like new as all webers seem to do, being someone who hates buying used stuff (almost always rather go lesser and get new for same money). But some kind of magic in that coating, that seems to last forever, not only the design.
In the meantime, it had been super hard to pass on all these pellet & charcoal gravity fed deals around here (along with cheap big box offsets I've had good luck on as guest cooker), because despite the obvious somewhat disposable nature of their quality when you see them in person, i would still have been more than happy with a couple/few years use for as cheap as they are & as often as I smoke, and it was hard to resist the allure of these things that impart that flavor we all seek, but that's basically a set it & forget it oven... had I known that the WSM's effectively function filling almost exactly that need despite not being computer/fan controlled, I'd have done this a long time ago. You watch a YT video on how to set up, basically dumping the coals in then a few lit is WAY easier than building the perfect snake keeping your meat out of its way... am super amazed at how consistently that temp stays once you nudge the bottom vents into position to hold the temp where you want it, then can really walk away. wsm even had my probe wire pass-thru grommet hole already factory cut/ included. Had I known it'd have been this easy and effective, even easier to clean than kettle (more parts but less unweildy altogether), I'd have done it long ago.
Although only having experience with a few of their models, like trza I too am super weber biased, but I think we are for good reason. Can 2nd the recommendation (7th? itt) for a WSM for smoking to anyone, with 100% confidence.
Sat am. I just put 2 chickens into mine for guests at noon. They come our great.
Smoked chicken is incredible and easy.
Oh..and if you use a pellet smoker all the time...I hear guys gripe about the cost of pellets for an all day smoke.
Don't overthink it!
The one thing I would absolutely do with an electric smoker is get a pellet tray. Properly lit with a torch and given the right amount of air, the pellets will smolder for 8 to 12 hours, giving you plenty of good smoke. For more intense, but shorter, smoke you can just light both end to get double the smoke. Another advantage of these trays is that you can use them to cold smoke cheese or make wonderful smoked salmon.
The pellet tray adds the convenience of a pellet smoker to any other type. Just buy pellets of whatever kind of wood you like and don't be afraid to experiment with different kinds.
I bought the electric smoker figuring once I got experience with it I would go for something really good. Now I figure I will just keep using it until it breaks and probably just get another one.
BTW - We live in Kansas City and have done publicity for the American Royal, where we always get to taste the best BBQ in the world (Not what the public gets), so we know what the "good stuff is".
The one thing I would absolutely do with an electric smoker is get a pellet tray. Properly lit with a torch and given the right amount of air, the pellets will smolder for 8 to 12 hours, giving you plenty of good smoke. For more intense, but shorter, smoke you can just light both end to get double the smoke. Another advantage of these trays is that you can use them to cold smoke cheese or make wonderful smoked salmon.
The pellet tray adds the convenience of a pellet smoker to any other type. Just buy pellets of whatever kind of wood you like and don't be afraid to experiment with different kinds.
I bought the electric smoker figuring once I got experience with it I would go for something really good. Now I figure I will just keep using it until it breaks and probably just get another one.
BTW - We live in Kansas City and have done publicity for the American Royal, where we always get to taste the best BBQ in the world (Not what the public gets), so we know what the "good stuff is".
I've found that just smoke for the first 2-4 hrs is plenty on a well seasoned smoker. Everyone eats a different level of smoke they desire. Mine is on the lighter side.
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I could throw a smoke tube in my kitchens oven. If you want to call that a smoker, be my guest.
Sorry for triggering you. Over a smoker of all things. Lmfao.
The food is awesome and everyone loves it. Can't really argue with that.
There you go, I fixed it for you lol.
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