My concern with "running hot" is fan noise (should have stated I guess). Ryzens seem to be quiet because they run cooler (though could depend on manufacturer). So I guess my question is, will the i3-1125 run "louder"? HP would be the brand (consumer-grade). I imagine so (HP isn't very high quality)................
Good qualification! A platform like the Inspiron and Lattitude from Dell are rarely optimized for silent operation. At the same time, a review of this platform with a more powerful CPU in notebookcheck[notebookcheck.net] noted how quiet the system was... but how the performance of the CPU had been limited by how much Dell chose to restrict the power supplied to it (presumably in part to maintain that balance of heat and noise in a system that might still be optimized for a lesser CPU like the one in this offer).
Good qualification! A platform like the Inspiron and Lattitude from Dell are rarely optimized for silent operation. At the same time, a review of this platform with a more powerful CPU in notebookcheck[notebookcheck.net] noted how quiet the system was... but how the performance of the CPU had been limited by how much Dell chose to restrict the power supplied to it (presumably in part to maintain that balance of heat and noise in a system that might still be optimized for a lesser CPU like the one in this offer).
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My Ryzen has a "max tdp" of 15w while the i3-1125 has 28w (taken from Passmark). Would one logically conclude that the i3 would run louder/fan running more?
My Ryzen has a "max tdp" of 15w while the i3-1125 has 28w (taken from Passmark). Would one logically conclude that the i3 would run louder/fan running more?
In short: NO. Looking past typical design choices (heatsink design, fan selection) the most complicated reason is that the manufacturer of a laptop my limit these newer CPUs to a specific TDP well below the technical maximum(!). This has implications not only for the feature you're worried about (how often/loud the fan runs) but also the overall performance (as in, am I really getting what I paid for).
In short: NO. Looking past typical design choices (heatsink design, fan selection) the most complicated reason is that the manufacturer of a laptop my limit these newer CPUs to a specific TDP well below the technical maximum(!). This has implications not only for the feature you're worried about (how often/loud the fan runs) but also the overall performance (as in, am I really getting what I paid for).
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Jon
thanks. so basically i have to buy and test out each model....? lol
thanks. so basically i have to buy and test out each model....? lol
I wish it were better. If you are lucky the model you're researching will get a enough interest from a site who regularly performs such performance testing (such as notebookcheck). If not, you need to make a lot of subjective evaluations about the design and then evaluate those on your own once you receive the device. Checking and/or unlocking TDP is basically the thing these days in the laptop space when you're trying to buy for performance.
I wish it were better. If you are lucky the model you're researching will get a enough interest from a site who regularly performs such performance testing (such as notebookcheck).
Unfortunately the budget and even midrange models tend to get very few professional reviews. The 5410 has been out for months but there are essentially no reviews from the major sites (nor of its predecessor). The 1125G4 has been on the market for the better part of a year but you'll struggle to find ANY reviews of laptops using it. The manufacturers seem to only send review units of their flagship models, like the XPS 13.
Not broken, but the real deal at this price would be the i3-1125G4 with 4 cores / 8 threads. That CPU is really i5-level performance and flexibility with i3 branding; only the graphics is "old" but presumably at this price point you're not looking for anything "gaming" beyond Minecraft or Roblox.
The 1115G4 is the 2 core / 4 thread model that is functional, but more comparable to the Pentium and Celeron CPUs you see in Chromebooks. These lower horsepower CPUs are killer with Chrome OS, but demanding of more patience when operated with Windows. At this price point you might do better to shop for a refurb/off-lease laptop with a 4 core i-series CPU. In fact, I see that a refurb HP 15-dy2035tg 15.6" is available at Micro Center with that exact 1125G4 i3 I mentioned earlier.
Actually what you just stated is partly true. When it says eBay money back guarantee, even if the person is a scammer, you can still get your money back. So how does eBay refund your money if they can't get money back from the seller? There's the refund policy of the eBay seller and there's eBay in case an issue arises and the seller refuses to respond.
I know someone who basically got a free laptop because the seller refused to communicate over some condition issues that were not transparent. The seller stopped responding after 7-10 days of bad communication and submitted to eBay to step in and within 48 hours eBay refunded the money and said the case was closed and there was no need to return the laptop.
I had something similar happen with a high-end refurbished office chair.
The seller sent a different model than he sold. I had screen shots saved with everything about the sale and could prove that he misrepresented the item.
The scammer apologized and promised to send me a box for return shipping. Every time I contacted him he assured me that the box was "on the way". I did my research and knew that Ebay would refuse any refund or investigation after (I think) 45 days). After that time I was also blocked from reviewing the seller.
Two days before that Ebay dispute period ended I opened a case. The seller instantly refunded the $300+ I had paid for the chair, closed the sale out (which closed the case), and sent me an email complaining bitterly that paying for return shipping would cost more than the chair was worth.
I wonder how many times these guys just run out the clock after they sell an item.
Although this pricing is only 1 per order, Amex promo works for multiple orders.
For those with Amex offer $200 off $800 offer, you can reduce this by $100 per laptop if you purchase two separate orders of this $399.99 laptop (sales taxes will make it > $800 qualifying you for the credit)
I have both the $200 off $800 Amex offer and a 10% Dell Amex offer on the same Amex card, making this $260 per computer ($399.99 multiply by 2 minus $200 amex offer minus $80 amex 10% dell offer).
I also have the $200 Amex biannual credit from my Amex Plat Biz so this further reduces it to $160 per computer.
Also 8% Rak CB means a further $32 reduction per computer for an net $128 per computer.
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The 1115G4 is the 2 core / 4 thread model that is functional, but more comparable to the Pentium and Celeron CPUs you see in Chromebooks. These lower horsepower CPUs are killer with Chrome OS, but demanding of more patience when operated with Windows. At this price point you might do better to shop for a refurb/off-lease laptop with a 4 core i-series CPU. In fact, I see that a refurb HP 15-dy2035tg 15.6" is available at Micro Center with that exact 1125G4 i3 I mentioned earlier.
Good luck!
Jon
The HP laptop is way much better processor and significantly cheaper. Also has 1 DRAM slot available for future upgrades.
The HP laptop is way much better processor and significantly cheaper. Also has 1 DRAM slot available for future upgrades.
Good luck!
Jon
I know someone who basically got a free laptop because the seller refused to communicate over some condition issues that were not transparent. The seller stopped responding after 7-10 days of bad communication and submitted to eBay to step in and within 48 hours eBay refunded the money and said the case was closed and there was no need to return the laptop.
The seller sent a different model than he sold. I had screen shots saved with everything about the sale and could prove that he misrepresented the item.
The scammer apologized and promised to send me a box for return shipping. Every time I contacted him he assured me that the box was "on the way". I did my research and knew that Ebay would refuse any refund or investigation after (I think) 45 days). After that time I was also blocked from reviewing the seller.
Two days before that Ebay dispute period ended I opened a case. The seller instantly refunded the $300+ I had paid for the chair, closed the sale out (which closed the case), and sent me an email complaining bitterly that paying for return shipping would cost more than the chair was worth.
I wonder how many times these guys just run out the clock after they sell an item.
For those with Amex offer $200 off $800 offer, you can reduce this by $100 per laptop if you purchase two separate orders of this $399.99 laptop (sales taxes will make it > $800 qualifying you for the credit)
I have both the $200 off $800 Amex offer and a 10% Dell Amex offer on the same Amex card, making this $260 per computer ($399.99 multiply by 2 minus $200 amex offer minus $80 amex 10% dell offer).
I also have the $200 Amex biannual credit from my Amex Plat Biz so this further reduces it to $160 per computer.
Also 8% Rak CB means a further $32 reduction per computer for an net $128 per computer.
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