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Prometheus XVI Ryzen 9 NVIDIA RTX 3080 16.0" 16:10 165Hz QHD HDR 2560x1600, 16gb RAM, 512gb NVME hd Gaming Laptop $1999.91 at Eluktronics

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Nice gaming laptop with the 3080:

MSRP: $2,679.98
$1,999.91
(YOU SAVE $680.07)

AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX 8 Cores - 16 Threads (3.3-4.6GHz Max Boost Clock)

8GB GDDR6 VRAM NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (Max-P TGP: 115~150 Watts*)

16.0" Narrow Bezel QHD IPS-Type 165Hz 500-Nit HDR Anti-Glare Display (2560 x 1600)

512GB Ultra Performance PCIe NVMe SSD + Samsung 16GB DDR4 3200MHz (2 Dimm)

One empty M.2 PCIe bay *Not applicable when a secondary PCIe SSD storage option is selected.

Weight: Only 5.62lbs

https://www.eluktronics.com/Prome...XVI-3080BF


They also have a 17 inch 3070 laptop at $1699:

https://www.eluktronics.com/Prome...II-1P16RBF
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Bazoogamoosh
12-08-2021 at 06:58 AM.
12-08-2021 at 06:58 AM.
Quote from Ohsighrus :
Probably the best bang for your buck right now for highest end gaming laptop. Only real competition getting similar FPS is in the much higher price bracket (double)

https://youtu.be/IibIzB5kdZ0?t=481

People need to understand though, a laptop is still a laptop. Even the best laptop really isn't very good compared to an equally priced desktop. If a laptop is what you want, this is a decent one. This isn't getting anywhere near 140+ FPS in 1440p with AAA titles as it can't even do that in 1080p consistently.

Personally I can't spend $2k on a laptop and sleep at night. It either ends up being a bad desktop hooked up to a ton of external stuff or it ends up as a portable movie watcher that a cheaper option would have worked better and way lighter. This laptop actually did worse in DaVinci Resolve than two 3070 laptops... so you can def save money and get pretty damn near equal experiences going with much cheaper 3070 builds and sticking to 1080p as you should on a laptop.

How long would it take to crypto farm and it for it to pay itself off?
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cobelali
12-08-2021 at 07:05 AM.
12-08-2021 at 07:05 AM.
Quote from sHockz_atx :
You don't do FDE on a NAS, you create an encrypted volume/container. Duh. Veracrypt works fine, and I'm not sure why you lumped it in with a dead software that's not being developed for anymore. Moreso, you can use veracrypt on the tiny 512gb drive to create the same container as I suggested doing on a NAS. Or if you're cheap, a $40 external USB drive. Or, just upgrade windows for -.37 cents. The solutions are endless, and "home" is what they put on gaming laptops because they aren't business marketed. If you're afraid of losing your passwords to someone stealing your drive data, use a password manager. The solutions are endless, and saying "why didn't this come with pro" is literally asinine.

I'll keep it simple for you so you can follow along.

1. When Truecrypt was abandoned, the code was used to create Veracrypt. I mentioned both because they share the same code base.

2. As I mentioned in my previous post, I found full drive encryption unrideable on both.

3. I did not mention passwords so I don't know why you include it in your response other than to fill space and appear like you know what you're talking about. My passwords are not accessible to anyone with access to my physical drive. It's my documents that I want to protect.

4. I didn't say encryption wasn't possible on Nas. My reason for encrypting my working drive was to protect the data from random technicians if it needed repairs. I don't need encryption on my Nas because a single drive cannot be used to access my data, hence no encryption is needed for my needs.

5. An asinine comment goes something like this:

"Do you even know what pro gives you over home?
Literally nothing that a home user needs"
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bokuhmin812
12-08-2021 at 11:16 AM.
12-08-2021 at 11:16 AM.
Quote from Ohsighrus :
Probably the best bang for your buck right now for highest end gaming laptop. Only real competition getting similar FPS is in the much higher price bracket (double)

https://youtu.be/IibIzB5kdZ0?t=481

People need to understand though, a laptop is still a laptop. Even the best laptop really isn't very good compared to an equally priced desktop. If a laptop is what you want, this is a decent one. This isn't getting anywhere near 140+ FPS in 1440p with AAA titles as it can't even do that in 1080p consistently.

Personally I can't spend $2k on a laptop and sleep at night. It either ends up being a bad desktop hooked up to a ton of external stuff or it ends up as a portable movie watcher that a cheaper option would have worked better and way lighter. This laptop actually did worse in DaVinci Resolve than two 3070 laptops... so you can def save money and get pretty damn near equal experiences going with much cheaper 3070 builds and sticking to 1080p as you should on a laptop.
Hi, I need a Christmas present for my 13 years old son. Do you know where i can find a gaming desktop for him? or buy a Prometheus XVII Ryzen 9 5900HX RTX 3070 8GB ? because i am not tech savvy.. Thank you!!
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Ohsighrus
12-08-2021 at 01:02 PM.
12-08-2021 at 01:02 PM.
Quote from bokuhmin812 :
Hi, I need a Christmas present for my 13 years old son. Do you know where i can find a gaming desktop for him? or buy a Prometheus XVII Ryzen 9 5900HX RTX 3070 8GB ? because i am not tech savvy.. Thank you!!
https://www.eluktronics.com/Prome...XVI-3070BF

Save money get this.
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Dealzilla1718
12-08-2021 at 04:16 PM.
12-08-2021 at 04:16 PM.
Can you mine crypto with this?
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kstar1990
12-08-2021 at 04:33 PM.
12-08-2021 at 04:33 PM.
Quote from bokuhmin812 :
Hi, I need a Christmas present for my 13 years old son. Do you know where i can find a gaming desktop for him? or buy a Prometheus XVII Ryzen 9 5900HX RTX 3070 8GB ? because i am not tech savvy.. Thank you!!
Here is a link to the 3070 model: https://www.eluktronics.com/Prome...II-1P16RBF
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Can you mine crypto with this?
yes
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Eluktronics
12-08-2021 at 07:45 PM.
12-08-2021 at 07:45 PM.
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Can you mine crypto with this?
Yes, the RTX 3070 and 3080 mobile doesn't have that big of a difference when it comes to mining crypto. The 3070 XVII edition properly tuned down to 115 watts with the memory clock up achieves anywhere from 50~57MH/s. Total power draw for the entire system is approximately 150 watts on a 3070. The RTX 3080 comes closer to 60MH/s and the XVI edition doesn't have wattage control like our XVII series.
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12-08-2021 at 11:50 PM.
12-08-2021 at 11:50 PM.
How does laptop gaming compare to a computer? Im running ryzen 7 3800 with 1070ti on my built a while back. Im sick of waiting around for the graphic card. I'm thinking of selling it and get one of these for my work station. If I connect this to a Monitor will it be the same? Please advise.
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DeC5799
12-09-2021 at 08:20 AM.
12-09-2021 at 08:20 AM.
Quote from cobelali :
I use bitlocker whole disk encryption as a home user and that's only available in the pro version. I know about Truecrypt and Veracrypt, but I found unstable. The reason I use encryption is for warranty work. If my drive dies under warranty and I have to send it in for repair or replacement, the technician will have access to all my data. Bitlocker is not perfect, but it fits my use case perfectly.
FYI, Home offer Device Encryption if it detects the require TPM support is there (discreet or firmware). Go to Settings > Upgrade If your hardware/firmware pre-requisite are met, you should see the option for Device Encryption. Latest Windows 10 build even have this automatically enabled but require last step: You need to sign in with online account for Device Encryption to work on Windows 10 Home. For Pro, you do not, and with Pro you can more control over what to encrypt, with Home you do not, it's entire device (the laptop) or none at all.

Hope that helps.

But yea I prefer pro so I can enable bit locker with a offline/local account.
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12-09-2021 at 08:36 AM.
12-09-2021 at 08:36 AM.
Quote from sHockz_atx :
Why would you store data you care about on a laptop (with only 512gb of storage...barely enough for a couple games)? Use a NAS. Encrypt there. Even my 65 year old mother uses a NAS.

And yea, truecrypt probably unstable because it's development's been dead for like...5+ years.

Also - if your drive is dead, why are you worried about the data on it? It's solid state, unless it's the FBI they aren't getting your data off. No one cares. Drive encryption is just not needed for a gaming laptop with only 512gb of storage. If it had a second HDD bay and 2x 2tb nvme's, yea, pro for bitlocker would make sense because then it would also cater to developers.
In today's age where more and more people are connected and doing their banking shopping, and other activities online... and with AES-NI acceleration now on practically all newly sold CPUs (ARM, X86_64, etc.) there is no penalty for using system encryption either.

Even Windows 10 Home (latest build) will try to automatically enable encryption if your system has the right requirement (TPM or fTPM) + AES_NI.

Everyone should be caring about the data they have on their laptops of desktops, unless they are technical enough to build a dedicate machine for single purpose where there ARE 100% no useful data on that machine.

But as you said, most gamers are not that technical to build or buy a system JUST for sole purpose of only gaming.

The practice of encrypting your personal computer devices should be mainstream by now. Macs is pushing this as a default, Windows 10 is trying to, iOS has this by default Windows 11 is trying to set this as as standard requirement.

The thought process has shifted from, only encrypt if you have data to protect to you should encrypt everything and only not encrypt if you are 100% sure you have no personal data you want exposed at all.

Just like Backup best practices wasn't mainstream a decade ago, and today everyone should have some form of backup... today everyone should have some form of device encryption.

Data thieves are getting very craft and is working at never thought about methods on what personal data they can use to cause damage or theft. As data is harder to get, they are innovator new ways to use data that no one has thought was even useful before.

As for dead drives... unless his physically damage beyond repairs, I've been able to do recover with good success myself without special NSA knowledge (I'm not a data recovery expert either). I had a failed NAS drive. To recover I tried to transplant the controller from a working drive to the "dead" one. Then the dead one start working! The transplant was pretty easy too. No soldering. Just need a screw driver, remove 2 screws and that's it. I was able to move all the data I needed.

If that was someone else drive without encryption, I just accessed all their data on it.
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12-09-2021 at 06:32 PM.
12-09-2021 at 06:32 PM.
Alder lake Mobile laptops are coming out in one month are already in laptops waiting the ship with 3O7o TI and 3080 tis and will offer a generational bump in gaming for laptops just wait
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12-09-2021 at 07:27 PM.
12-09-2021 at 07:27 PM.
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Haha. I was called out for things I didn't even say, but sure, dude.
You were called out for making a stupid comment about a gaming laptop. None of the other laptops in this price segment or category come with windows 10 pro. Go buy a friggin ultrabook and get outta the gaming threads?
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12-09-2021 at 07:35 PM.
12-09-2021 at 07:35 PM.
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You're not wrong, but laptops have their place IMO. I've gotten a ton of mileage out of my Walmart L5P in the past few months, to the point that I feel like I use it more than my 3070 desktop. The only thing I'll hard disagree on is 1080p being the gold standard for laptops. After using the screen in this L5P with 1600p/IPS/G-sync, there's definitely a place for higher resolutions with full power cards.
Yeah, the 1440p 165hz screens this gen are leagues ahead of the high refresh options, both in terms of visual clarity and intelligibility but also color reproduction. Saying 1080p is the max you should target on a laptop is like saying you don't need 4k (or 4k approximated) if you're using a large screen monitor or tv as a computer display. I sit a few feet from my LG CX48 Oled and would DIE if I couldn't use it at more than 1440p. The same can be said for a 17 inch gaming laptop (and to a lesser extent, the new 16.1s). The better screens, by default, are just the higher resolution options now. There's no downside (unless you're a heavy esports gamer and if you are, do you REALLY need a 3080 anyway??)
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CaptGeech
12-10-2021 at 08:17 PM.
12-10-2021 at 08:17 PM.
So, back to the two laptops in question. I'm really thinking about getting one of these (if they are even both available). I have a 17 inch ROG now I'm replacing with a 1070 card and I imagine the 17 inch screen in this Eluk model probably blows my screen out of the water and the 3070 card etc. etc. But for the small price difference, should I just try to handle being on a 16 inch screen for the better specs all around? There may be times I just hook it up where my old desktop is on my 27 inch pred monitor, but I really like being able to chill in my living room on my couch and game, and with my eyes the 17 inch has really helped over my older 15.6. I'm fearful of going down to the 16 inch. I realize it's not a huge difference but it does make a difference for me. Any feedback on quality between these two panels specifically? I know the 17 inch is probably what a 300-350 nits panel vs that sexy 500 on the 16. Any input is appreciated. Thank you!
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12-12-2021 at 10:53 AM.
12-12-2021 at 10:53 AM.
Quote from BoastfulMice8832 :
No that deal is over haha, was before black Friday

Rn best is legion 7i 3070 1TB for 1560$

Link for 7i please?
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