They only recommend 8gb. They also only recommend using Synology memory modules. I added a single 16gb stick of
CT16G4SFD8266 which has been tested by multiple users, myself included, and it works fine.
I snagged the 920+ from Amazon Warehouse in January for $311.59. It appeared unused with cosmetic damage to the packaging.
The N5095/N5125 based models are announced already FYI
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If you are not sure you need 4 bay you don't need 4 bay.
2 Bay is sufficient for home usage. You get 1 disk redundancy. You can slap a 12-16TB disk on it and be good for a long time unless you are a data hoarder or have really big library of movie/shows etc.
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Then get the 4 bay when you need it. You can sell your 2 bay and upgrade to 4. Unless you have unlimited pool of money put your money towards larger disks than more bays because the most expensive disk is the one which you had to replace.
Phdeez mentioned creating a user for each Docker container. This is a good method but can get messy if you're trying to use directories that containers share and manipulate. You could fix that by giving the user permissions to each other containers folders but at that point you might as well just create one Docker specific user since you're giving them each other's access anyways. Less overhead for you that way.
I just have one user that I use to launch my containers. You can specify PUID and GUID for your Docker limited account in your Docker container environment variables when you launch it. I specify mine in my Docker-compose file. Just easier for me to manage it that way.
Not really the place for Docker lessons, but if that's all too much for you you can always go the VM route, I just find it a little wasteful with already having somewhat limited resources.
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Yeah, I'm advising specifically against that!
I just created a user for each docker container, then gave that user permissions to the docker folder they needed access to (SharedFolder)/docker/sabnzbd, and then add all of the containers I used for Media (sabnzbd, sonarr, radarr) to a group and allowed them all access to the (SharedFolder)/Media. That way those users don't have access to each other's containers nor can they access other resources on the Synology.
When you add the docker container you'll specify the PUID (user ID) and PGID (Group ID) that user belongs to.
That way if the docker container is jacked, it can't escape and get root access to the Synology.
I previously had all my docker containers using the root user, but it really is a security nightmare that way.... so I rebuilt them
I actually throw all the docker users in a MediaUsers group to avoid permission problems, HOWEVER, using one docker user would work too (just don't place them in the Administrators group)!
New to NAS, planning to get the 4 bay but wondering how much storage to get. Of course if I had unlimited funds, I'd max out on TB but I have kids and bills to pay. I'd like to run a RAID 5 across 4 drives to back up PCs, photos from cameras and phones for four people in household. How much storage to get? Suggestions much appreciated.
On Synology devices you'll want to use SHR, here's a calculator, and why I suggest it is because you can mix and match drive sizes and get the most out of them, unlike Raid5.
Personally, I think the deal at Newegg for 12TB WD Reds[newegg.com] is a great deal, $180 and no need to shuck them.
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For the 4 phones 2-4 tb will easily have you covered for 5 years worth of photos and videos (unless they are doing hours and hours of video). The PCs will depend on how many and how big/full are the hard drives. I would say try to grab 2 of the 12TBs and you should be golden for now. That will give you 12TB storage with back up.
Keep an eye today and tomorrow and you might find a decent deal on shuckable drives.
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Thanks, your suggestions make a lot of sense.
One of the advantages of going with the 2 Bay is if you decide to expand in the future (and need a 4 or 5 bay), you can throw the 2 Bay at a relative's house and have offsite backups.
Synology has a built in backup option to backup Synology devices directly. It's pretty handy.
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If you can afford it go with the 4 Bay. You can always start with 2 drives and add to it later. If you start with a 2 Bay... you're stuck with a 2 Bay.
But, I agree with Kthxbb, I feel getting the two-bay is really limiting, especially if you're considering doing any type of drive redundancy (SHR/RAID-1). IMO, 3 bays is the sweet spot (2 data + 1 parity). For a long time I used the 4 bay this way and had a small (128gb) 2.5" SSD for the Synology OS, Plex, dockers, etc.
Recently I migrated all the data from the SSD to an NVMe drive (which Synology normally uses for cache, but there are guides to use it as a regular data volume), which freed up the 4th slot and allowed me to add a 4th spinning drive to increase my data pool.
I actually throw all the docker users in a MediaUsers group to avoid permission problems, HOWEVER, using one docker user would work too (just don't place them in the Administrators group)!
Yeah your method is good too! I just have too many overlapping services to want to deal with the permissions. I don't expose any of my stuff externally and use a VPN to connect to my network so I find my method acceptable.
Security in a nutshell is reducing the risk to a level that is acceptable by yourself or an organization since you can never reduce all risks. Multiple ways to reduce the risk.
On Synology devices you'll want to use SHR, here's a calculator, and why I suggest it is because you can mix and match drive sizes and get the most out of them, unlike Raid5.
Personally, I think the deal at Newegg for 12TB WD Reds[newegg.com] is a great deal, $180 and no need to shuck them.
One of the advantages of going with the 2 Bay is if you decide to expand in the future (and need a 4 or 5 bay), you can throw the 2 Bay at a relative's house and have offsite backups.
Synology has a built in backup option to backup Synology devices directly. It's pretty handy.
But, I agree with Kthxbb, I feel getting the two-bay is really limiting, especially if you're considering doing any type of drive redundancy (SHR/RAID-1). IMO, 3 bays is the sweet spot (2 data + 1 parity). For a long time I used the 4 bay this way and had a small (128gb) 2.5" SSD for the Synology OS, Plex, dockers, etc.
Recently I migrated all the data from the SSD to an NVMe drive (which Synology normally uses for cache, but there are guides to use it as a regular data volume), which freed up the 4th slot and allowed me to add a 4th spinning drive to increase my data pool.
For someone who's new to NAS and don't have a lot to backup, should i got with basic instead of SHR?
Just purchased DS220+ and 2 14TB RED PRO drive yesterday.
I set it up last night and was doing some research on what's the best way to set up the drive and volumes. Someone mentioned you can choose basic mode and use the Hyper Backup tool to only backup important documents and photos. Personally, i don't care much about video and also won't be downloading a lot of them either.
Will the basic selection gives me the max disk utilization?
Thanks!
For someone who's new to NAS and don't have a lot to backup, should i got with basic instead of SHR?
Just purchased DS220+ and 2 14TB RED PRO drive yesterday.
I set it up last night and was doing some research on what's the best way to set up the drive and volumes. Someone mentioned you can choose basic mode and use the Hyper Backup tool to only backup important documents and photos. Personally, i don't care much about video and also won't be downloading a lot of them either.
Will the basic selection gives me the max disk utilization?
Thanks!
I'm sorry, I can't say for certain as I've never used a multiple drive setup with basic. I will say you'd probably want to keep the volumes separate in case one fails you'd only lose the data on that drive.
Since you purchased the 220, you only have 2 drive bays, and for that I don't think SHR makes sense, unless in the future you decide to throw those drives in to a larger unit to expand space (and with SHR, you can mix and match drive sizes, which is great, unlike RAID).
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2 Bay is sufficient for home usage. You get 1 disk redundancy. You can slap a 12-16TB disk on it and be good for a long time unless you are a data hoarder or have really big library of movie/shows etc.
I just have one user that I use to launch my containers. You can specify PUID and GUID for your Docker limited account in your Docker container environment variables when you launch it. I specify mine in my Docker-compose file. Just easier for me to manage it that way.
Not really the place for Docker lessons, but if that's all too much for you you can always go the VM route, I just find it a little wasteful with already having somewhat limited resources.
I just created a user for each docker container, then gave that user permissions to the docker folder they needed access to (SharedFolder)/docker/sabnzbd, and then add all of the containers I used for Media (sabnzbd, sonarr, radarr) to a group and allowed them all access to the (SharedFolder)/Media. That way those users don't have access to each other's containers nor can they access other resources on the Synology.
When you add the docker container you'll specify the PUID (user ID) and PGID (Group ID) that user belongs to.
That way if the docker container is jacked, it can't escape and get root access to the Synology.
I previously had all my docker containers using the root user, but it really is a security nightmare that way.... so I rebuilt them
I actually throw all the docker users in a MediaUsers group to avoid permission problems, HOWEVER, using one docker user would work too (just don't place them in the Administrators group)!
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Personally, I think the deal at Newegg for 12TB WD Reds [newegg.com] is a great deal, $180 and no need to shuck them.
Keep an eye today and tomorrow and you might find a decent deal on shuckable drives.
Synology has a built in backup option to backup Synology devices directly. It's pretty handy.
Recently I migrated all the data from the SSD to an NVMe drive (which Synology normally uses for cache, but there are guides to use it as a regular data volume), which freed up the 4th slot and allowed me to add a 4th spinning drive to increase my data pool.
Yeah your method is good too! I just have too many overlapping services to want to deal with the permissions. I don't expose any of my stuff externally and use a VPN to connect to my network so I find my method acceptable.
Security in a nutshell is reducing the risk to a level that is acceptable by yourself or an organization since you can never reduce all risks. Multiple ways to reduce the risk.
https://www.synology.co
Personally, I think the deal at Newegg for 12TB WD Reds [newegg.com] is a great deal, $180 and no need to shuck them.
One of the advantages of going with the 2 Bay is if you decide to expand in the future (and need a 4 or 5 bay), you can throw the 2 Bay at a relative's house and have offsite backups.
Synology has a built in backup option to backup Synology devices directly. It's pretty handy.
But, I agree with Kthxbb, I feel getting the two-bay is really limiting, especially if you're considering doing any type of drive redundancy (SHR/RAID-1). IMO, 3 bays is the sweet spot (2 data + 1 parity). For a long time I used the 4 bay this way and had a small (128gb) 2.5" SSD for the Synology OS, Plex, dockers, etc.
Recently I migrated all the data from the SSD to an NVMe drive (which Synology normally uses for cache, but there are guides to use it as a regular data volume), which freed up the 4th slot and allowed me to add a 4th spinning drive to increase my data pool.
For someone who's new to NAS and don't have a lot to backup, should i got with basic instead of SHR?
Just purchased DS220+ and 2 14TB RED PRO drive yesterday.
I set it up last night and was doing some research on what's the best way to set up the drive and volumes. Someone mentioned you can choose basic mode and use the Hyper Backup tool to only backup important documents and photos. Personally, i don't care much about video and also won't be downloading a lot of them either.
Will the basic selection gives me the max disk utilization?
Thanks!
Just purchased DS220+ and 2 14TB RED PRO drive yesterday.
I set it up last night and was doing some research on what's the best way to set up the drive and volumes. Someone mentioned you can choose basic mode and use the Hyper Backup tool to only backup important documents and photos. Personally, i don't care much about video and also won't be downloading a lot of them either.
Will the basic selection gives me the max disk utilization?
Thanks!
Since you purchased the 220, you only have 2 drive bays, and for that I don't think SHR makes sense, unless in the future you decide to throw those drives in to a larger unit to expand space (and with SHR, you can mix and match drive sizes, which is great, unlike RAID).
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What are the differences /or benefits of the newer models