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Orgain Organic Vegan Protein Powder - Creamy Chocolate Fudge, 2.03lbs

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Model: Orgain Organic Vegan Protein Powder,Creamy Chocolate Fudge -21g of Plant Based Protein, Low Net Carbs,Non Dairy,Gluten Free, No Sugar Added, Soy Free, Kosher,Non-GMO, 2.03 Lb (Packaging May Vary)

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Jul 14, 2022 05:28 AM
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scubJul 14, 2022 05:28 AM
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i eat healthy and ate everything any anything that had any scientific research to inhibit cancer.. was a gym freak too. then three year ago i was diagnosed with blood cancer. so please gtfo with the stevia cancer causing crap.. i bet there are far worse things in your diet/foods than a plant that grows out in nature.

anyway, im not necessarily a vegan, but tried both the plant based and dairy base orgain protein.. they are both good, except for me, the plant base is much harder on my digestion than the dairy.. by "harder" i mean it takes longer to digest so i stay full much longer. this is not necessarily a bad thing, but i need to eat small frequent meals, so it doesn't work too well for that purpose.

either way this is a great deal for a very good quality protein.. much better than 99% of those protein shakes out there.. i wish this was around 5+ years ago when i worked out regularly since it wws difficult to find protein powder without a ton of unnecessary ingredients.
Jul 14, 2022 04:09 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 04:09 PM
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Quote from rcs1 :
Oh wait, it totally has been around for decades....
Oh wait, no long term studies. laugh out loud

Oh wait, glyphosate! LMAO

My valuable opinion would remain the same regardless. nod
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Jul 14, 2022 04:18 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 04:18 PM
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Last edited by GandalfNYC July 14, 2022 at 04:24 PM.
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Jul 14, 2022 04:20 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 04:20 PM
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Unrelated, Steve took a sh*tload of this stuff, then competed as "Stevia" in the olympics, and beat some former champion female athletes. nod LMAO
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Jul 14, 2022 06:32 PM
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iRiamoJul 14, 2022 06:32 PM
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People here debating the concerns with stevia are probably the same ones that will go home and throw a slab cow meat on the grill which has been conclusively identified as a group 1 carcinogen.
Jul 14, 2022 08:08 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 08:08 PM
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Wrong! nod
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 08:10 PM
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Group 1 Herb comes to mind. laugh out loudLMAOlaugh out loudLMAO
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Jul 14, 2022 09:58 PM
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Quote from GandalfNYC :
Oh wait, no long term studies.

Oh wait, glyphosate!

My valuable opinion would remain the same regardless.
This is completely false. There are over 200 studies on the safety of stevia extract:

Stevia Safety
The Acceptable Daily Intake (ADI) is the amount of a substance that people can consume in food or beverages on a daily basis during their whole life without any appreciable risk to health. Several regulatory authorities have rigorously evaluated more than 200 peer-reviewed studies on animals and humans examining the safety of high-purity steviol glycosides. Based on this evidence, JECFA has established an ADI that applies to adults and children. The ADI is expressed as steviol equivalents of 4 mg/kg of body weight per day.7 This equates to approximately 12 mg of high-purity stevia extracts/kg of body weight per day, using a conversion factor of 0.33. This ADI was established using a safety factor of 100, which includes a 10-times factor to account for potential differences between humans and animal species used in toxicological testing and a 10-times factor to account for potential differences within the human population, such as between children and adults. Thus, any potential increased susceptibility of children compared with adults to steviol glycosides has been addressed in the establishment of the ADI. For example, to put the ADI for high purity steviol glycosides into perspective, a 150-lb (70-kg) person would need to consume approximately 40 packets of a table top stevia sweetener that contain 21 mg steviol glycosides per packet daily for a lifetime to maximize the current ADI. Here is the calculation: A 70-kg person consuming the ADI (12 mg/kg per day) would consume 70 × 12 = 840 mg steviol glycosides per day. If a tabletop packet contained about 21 mg steviol glycosides, this person would need to consume 840 / 21 = 40 small tabletop packets per day to maximize the current ADI.
In the United States, high-purity stevia leaf extracts are considered GRAS (generally recognized as safe) by the US Food and Drug Administration. For more information about the Food and Drug Administration GRAS process, see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18983884. There are many ways of producing purified steviol glycosides, and there are many GRAS notices.
Stevia has been shown to be safe in more than 200 studies, and JECFA has established an ADI of 4 mg/kg body weight per day, expressed as steviol equivalents, to guarantee this safety to consumers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/...MC4890837/
Jul 14, 2022 10:23 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 10:23 PM
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Quote from GandalfNYC :
Oh wait, no long term studies. laugh out loud

Oh wait, glyphosate! LMAO

My valuable opinion would remain the same regardless. nod
Quote from rcs1 :
This is completely false. There are over 200 studies on the safety of stevia extract:

Stevia Safety
The Acceptable Daily Intake (ADI) is the amount of a substance that people can consume in food or beverages on a daily basis during their whole life without any appreciable risk to health. Several regulatory authorities have rigorously evaluated more than 200 peer-reviewed studies on animals and humans examining the safety of high-purity steviol glycosides. Based on this evidence, JECFA has established an ADI that applies to adults and children. The ADI is expressed as steviol equivalents of 4 mg/kg of body weight per day.7 This equates to approximately 12 mg of high-purity stevia extracts/kg of body weight per day, using a conversion factor of 0.33. This ADI was established using a safety factor of 100, which includes a 10-times factor to account for potential differences between humans and animal species used in toxicological testing and a 10-times factor to account for potential differences within the human population, such as between children and adults. Thus, any potential increased susceptibility of children compared with adults to steviol glycosides has been addressed in the establishment of the ADI. For example, to put the ADI for high purity steviol glycosides into perspective, a 150-lb (70-kg) person would need to consume approximately 40 packets of a table top stevia sweetener that contain 21 mg steviol glycosides per packet daily for a lifetime to maximize the current ADI. Here is the calculation: A 70-kg person consuming the ADI (12 mg/kg per day) would consume 70 × 12 = 840 mg steviol glycosides per day. If a tabletop packet contained about 21 mg steviol glycosides, this person would need to consume 840 / 21 = 40 small tabletop packets per day to maximize the current ADI.
In the United States, high-purity stevia leaf extracts are considered GRAS (generally recognized as safe) by the US Food and Drug Administration. For more information about the Food and Drug Administration GRAS process, see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18983884. There are many ways of producing purified steviol glycosides, and there are many GRAS notices.
Stevia has been shown to be safe in more than 200 studies, and JECFA has established an ADI of 4 mg/kg body weight per day, expressed as steviol equivalents, to guarantee this safety to consumers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/...MC4890837/
Nope. Key words: long term and glyphosate.

"And while they have conducted more than 40,000 clinical studies on stevia and concluded that it is safe for human use, there is a general lack of long-term studies on stevia's use and effects. All in all, stevia's sweet taste and all-natural origins make it a popular sugar substitute."

My opinions are 100% perfect for me, and it is better for anyone to be safe than sorry.
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Jul 14, 2022 10:25 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 10:25 PM
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Something interesting from google:

"When did doctors recommend smoking?
In the 1930s and 1940s, smoking became the norm for both men and women in the United States, and a majority of physicians smoked. At the same time, there was rising public anxiety about the health risks of cigarette smoking."

My prediction for 10-20 years in the future:

"In the 2020's, although it was obvious that artificial sweeteners, even those some falsely labeled as "natural" are not a good idea given the side effect and malaise experienced by many who took them, some still insisted they were healthy. At the same time, there was rising public anxiety about the health risks of stevia and other sweeteners."

LMAO
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Jul 14, 2022 10:27 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 10:27 PM
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IMO for anything containing stevia to be called "organic" is outrageous!
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Jul 14, 2022 10:30 PM
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GandalfNYCJul 14, 2022 10:30 PM
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Potential side effects linked to stevia consumption include:
Kidney damage.
Gastrointestinal symptoms.
Allergic reaction.
Hypoglycemia or low blood sugar.
Low blood pressure.
Endocrine disruption.

EEK!

Does stevia cause health problems?

There's concern that stevia herb may harm your kidneys, reproductive system, and cardiovascular system. It may also drop blood pressure too low or interact with medications that lower blood sugar.

EEK!
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rcs1Jul 15, 2022 08:11 PM
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Edited comment below.
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Quote from GandalfNYC :
Nope. Key words: long term and glyphosate.

"And while they have conducted more than 40,000 clinical studies on stevia and concluded that it is safe for human use, there is a general lack of long-term studies on stevia's use and effects. All in all, stevia's sweet taste and all-natural origins make it a popular sugar substitute."

My opinions are 100% perfect for me, and it is better for anyone to be safe than sorry.
Why do you keep posting the same stuff you posted before, and in separate comments?

Also why do you keep mentioning glyphosate when we are talking about stevia? You do realize that steviol glycosides and glyphosate are two completely different things right?

That you choose not to use Orgain because there were higher levels of glyphosate at one time found in the product is fine. But I completely fail to understand why you keep mentioning glyphosate - an herbicide - when I'm talking about Stevia.

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Jul 16, 2022 03:00 AM
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GandalfNYCJul 16, 2022 03:00 AM
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Quote from rcs1 :
Why do you keep posting the same stuff you posted before, and in separate comments?

Also why do you keep mentioning glyphosate when we are talking about stevia? You do realize that steviol glycosides and glyphosate are two completely different things right?

That you choose not to use Orgain because there were higher levels of glyphosate at one time found in the product is fine. But I completely fail to understand why you keep mentioning glyphosate - an herbicide - when I'm talking about Stevia.
Why do you keep responding? The strength of your convictions is clearly lacking.

You don't need to understand anything, but you really should stop pumping stevia into your already lesser system. nod

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