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Synology DiskStation DS720+ 2-Bay NAS Enclosure (Celeron J4125, 2GB DDR4) Expired

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Amazon has Synology DiskStation DS720+ 2-Bay NAS Enclosure on sale for $319.99. Shipping is free.

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Features:
  • 2x 3.5/2.5" Bays | 2x M.2 2280 Slots
  • 2.0 GHz Intel Celeron J4125 Quad-Core
  • 2GB DDR4 RAM
  • 2x Gigabit Ethernet Ports
  • 2x USB 3.0 Type-A | 1x eSATA
  • RAID 0, 1, Basic, Hybrid, and JBOD
  • Sequential Reads up to 225.99 MB/s
  • Sequential Writes up to 195.42 MB/s
  • AES-NI Hardware Encryption Engine
  • Synology DiskStation Manager OS

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I debated Synology for sometime. But I am cheap as shit.

Before going further, no intention to crap the thread ...

My use case is very simple - (1) store files (backup + media), (2) stream media. Update is very infrequent. Media streaming happens 60-80 times a month for avg 1hr each time. I mostly use VLC/XBMC as the client.

I settled for a used NUC of eBay. It was almost in new condition. With 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, USB3 dual bay SATA doc, I paid ~$130ish.

With OMV, I am pretty happy with the setup. For fun, I tried live transcoding with JellyBean. I don't have content more than 1080P. 2 concurrent streams worked just fine at ~50% load.

I am not too tech savvy, I had to invest couple of hours to understand everything before diving in.

For sure this setup is a package solution, easy to handle and manage. And for sure the SATA interface is much more efficient compared to the USB 3 setup, I have. I have a slightly better CPU and 4x more RAM (for docker, Minecraft, etc), though.
I tried every DIY raid solution and then caved and bought the DS1511+ and it's been running and receiving updates for 10 years now and I don't have to do anything because it just works.

I'm sure you could find *something* to nitpick about any model (and I've got mine about the synology software), but as you get older, you just want reliability even if it costs a few hundred dollars. I've played with the various opensource raid-focused OSes and ideas and there's zero reason to switch (for me).

My 10yo hitachi 2TB drives are still error free. They were the deal at the time and I knew I'd have to replace them. The RAID-10 works for me.

I'd pair this with the two biggest HDDs you can afford, RAID-1, and not look back.

Edit… depending on your budget and space needs, you could pass on this one and wait for a 4 or 5 bay model
The previous $440 DS920+ deal would be better if I catched that.

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pug_ster
08-12-2022 at 09:04 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:04 AM.
Quote from mma123 :
I debated Synology for sometime. But I am cheap as shit.

Before going further, no intention to crap the thread ...

My use case is very simple - (1) store files (backup + media), (2) stream media. Update is very infrequent. Media streaming happens 60-80 times a month for avg 1hr each time. I mostly use VLC/XBMC as the client.

I settled for a used NUC of eBay. It was almost in new condition. With 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, USB3 dual bay SATA doc, I paid ~$130ish.

With OMV, I am pretty happy with the setup. For fun, I tried live transcoding with JellyBean. I don't have content more than 1080P. 2 concurrent streams worked just fine at ~50% load.

I am not too tech savvy, I had to invest couple of hours to understand everything before diving in.

For sure this setup is a package solution, easy to handle and manage. And for sure the SATA interface is much more efficient compared to the USB 3 setup, I have. I have a slightly better CPU and 4x more RAM (for docker, Minecraft, etc), though.
For almost 2 years I've set up a raspberry pi 4 (4gb version) with an external 5tb hard drive. It worked fine mostly but I've had numerous problems with sd card corruption and a hard time updating OMV.

I've ended up buying a synology DS920+ which cost me a pretty penny for the unit, 4 x14 tb hard drives, 4gb memory upgrade, and 2 x 1tb nvme ssd cache, which cost me around $1300-$1400. I've used it for a few months already and the disks are about 23% full but it really has most of the bells and whistles of a low powered server and certainly less maintence than my old raspberry pi 4 server.
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08-12-2022 at 09:04 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:04 AM.
Quote from coopmike :
I tried every DIY raid solution and then caved and bought the DS1511+ and it's been running and receiving updates for 10 years now and I don't have to do anything because it just works.

I'm sure you could find *something* to nitpick about any model (and I've got mine about the synology software), but as you get older, you just want reliability even if it costs a few hundred dollars. I've played with the various opensource raid-focused OSes and ideas and there's zero reason to switch (for me).

My 10yo hitachi 2TB drives are still error free. They were the deal at the time and I knew I'd have to replace them. The RAID-10 works for me.

I'd pair this with the two biggest HDDs you can afford, RAID-1, and not look back.

Edit… depending on your budget and space needs, you could pass on this one and wait for a 4 or 5 bay model
This is what I'm conflicted about. The idea of overspending, possibly hundreds (thousand?) on a synology really makes me unhappy, but if I don't have to DO anything after setup then that's a big time/mental savings.

My wife has already given the Ok to spend whatever I need to make sure our data is secure but at the same time I don't want to spend more if I don't have to.
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Norinion
08-12-2022 at 09:08 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:08 AM.
Quote from Hat-Trick :
Does this model have enough horsepower to do 2 or 3 simultaneous Plex streams at a time?
This question always comes down to what type of media you're transcoding and bandwidth.
Short answer: Yes, but depends.
Longer answer: Is the transcoding client sided or server sided? If it's client sided, then that would just depend on your bandwidth and client devices. Most clients can do h.264-1080p fine, while other clients struggle with h.265 (hevc). I run a DS220+ and force transcoding on client devices. Apple TVs, iPhones, iPads, handle 4k hevc fine, while some computers even desktops, struggle. I can get more into it, but if you're looking for server sided transcoding, h.264 at 1080, I believe it should be okay.

For more technical information, check this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...1274624273
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08-12-2022 at 09:09 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:09 AM.
Quote from VoJA20x :
whats the cheapest way for me to setup external hard drives (4) without network? just plug into my computer
Then you're looking for a direct storage connection over usb, not a NAS (network attached storage).
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soundbytegfx
08-12-2022 at 09:12 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:12 AM.
Quote from Norinion :
This question always comes down to what type of media you're transcoding and bandwidth.
Short answer: Yes, but depends.
Longer answer: Is the transcoding client sided or server sided? If it's client sided, then that would just depend on your bandwidth and client devices. Most clients can do h.264-1080p fine, while other clients struggle with h.265 (hevc). I run a DS220+ and force transcoding on client devices. Apple TVs, iPhones, iPads, handle 4k hevc fine, while some computers even desktops, struggle. I can get more into it, but if you're looking for server sided transcoding, h.264 at 1080, I believe it should be okay.

For more technical information, check this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...1274624273 [google.com]
There's no "client side transcoding" with Plex. Everything is done on the server. If the client can direct play, then Plex just feeds the file (no transcoding). If the client can't play the file natively, then the Plex Server transcoding the file to a format the client can play.

Yes this device has hardware transcoding. So it'll handle 1080p transcodes without issue. If your trying to transcode multiple 4k streams simultaneously, it may struggle.

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08-12-2022 at 09:13 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:13 AM.
Quote from mma123 :
I debated Synology for sometime. But I am cheap as shit.

Before going further, no intention to crap the thread ...

My use case is very simple - (1) store files (backup + media), (2) stream media. Update is very infrequent. Media streaming happens 60-80 times a month for avg 1hr each time. I mostly use VLC/XBMC as the client.

I settled for a used NUC of eBay. It was almost in new condition. With 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, USB3 dual bay SATA doc, I paid ~$130ish.

With OMV, I am pretty happy with the setup. For fun, I tried live transcoding with JellyBean. I don't have content more than 1080P. 2 concurrent streams worked just fine at ~50% load.

I am not too tech savvy, I had to invest couple of hours to understand everything before diving in.

For sure this setup is a package solution, easy to handle and manage. And for sure the SATA interface is much more efficient compared to the USB 3 setup, I have. I have a slightly better CPU and 4x more RAM (for docker, Minecraft, etc), though.
have you ever been on reddit on synology (for reviews), homelabs, or self-hosted subreddits? if not, i suggest you give them a visit. sounds like you know some good stuff and what you want -- you may find random ideas about you're trying to find do or didn't know you could do
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08-12-2022 at 09:15 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:15 AM.
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Synology NAS can only do gigabit Ethernet port which too slow nowadays. Also they haven't refresh their CPU and hardware for a while. I'm waiting for Asustor AS6704T going down in price a bit to buy for my home server.
Couldn't agree more.

Ive been waiting for another deal for a Synology NAS since the BF deals that I missed out/was lazy/hesitant on.

The Celeron Gemini Lake CPU's were great bang for the buck/power-heat to performance ratio... 3-4 years ago. (not to mention the 9 year old Bay Trails ie say a J1900)

Synology w/ a low power Alder Lake Celeron - that would be bad arse.
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08-12-2022 at 09:17 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:17 AM.
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$319.99 on Amazon today. Just pulled the trigger on upgrading from my ds220+ to this! Thanks OP!
I purchased the DS220+ on Prime Day for $245. I'm still within the return window. Is this a better option for just $75 more?
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08-12-2022 at 09:18 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:18 AM.
Quote from Norinion :
This question always comes down to what type of media you're transcoding and bandwidth.
Short answer: Yes, but depends.
Longer answer: Is the transcoding client sided or server sided? If it's client sided, then that would just depend on your bandwidth and client devices. Most clients can do h.264-1080p fine, while other clients struggle with h.265 (hevc). I run a DS220+ and force transcoding on client devices. Apple TVs, iPhones, iPads, handle 4k hevc fine, while some computers even desktops, struggle. I can get more into it, but if you're looking for server sided transcoding, h.264 at 1080, I believe it should be okay.

For more technical information, check this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...1274624273
Apple TV 4K boxes everywhere. Rarely do I stream to anything else except maybe an iPhone 13. Media is 1080p or less.
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08-12-2022 at 09:20 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:20 AM.
My rule of thumb for NAS's with x86 CPU is ~$330 for a 2-bay, ~$440 for a 4-bay... so this is overpriced IMO. 2-bay models with non x86 CPUs would be ~$275. I also wouldn't buy a NAS now that didn't have at least 2.5 Gbe ports unless I was wanting something for infrequent backups.
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08-12-2022 at 09:22 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:22 AM.
Quote from soundbytegfx :
There's no "client side transcoding" with Plex. Everything is done on the server. If the client can direct play, then Plex just feeds the file (no transcoding). If the client can't play the file natively, then the Plex Server transcoding the file to a format the client can play.

Yes this device has hardware transcoding. So it'll handle 1080p transcodes without issue. If your trying to transcode multiple 4k streams simultaneously, it may struggle.
I think we're talking about the same thing. Direct play is client side transcoding. The video needs to be transcoded to play, that's why older desktops (with quick sync or lower end GPUs) struggle with 4k hevc. My older PC can direct play but stutters on playback. I believe this is because the PC (client) isn't able to transcode smoothly.
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08-12-2022 at 09:25 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:25 AM.
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Apple TV 4K boxes everywhere. Rarely do I stream to anything else except maybe an iPhone 13. Media is 1080p or less.
Then I think you can set Plex to direct play. Have the Apple TV 4k Boxes handle all the transcoding and playback. As long as you're within your own home network then the 1g line network should be more than enough (assuming your network is based off 1g lines). But if you're trying to view it remotely, like on the go, then you would need an internet line as high as your biggest video file's bitrate.

Edit: this is how I'm running my Plex. Direct play all video files. My ipad, iphone, and apple TV 4k can handle smooth 4k HDR HEVC playback on my DS220+.
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08-12-2022 at 09:33 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:33 AM.
Quote from Hat-Trick :
Does this model have enough horsepower to do 2 or 3 simultaneous Plex streams at a time?

So far I've been able to do that with no issues
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08-12-2022 at 09:35 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:35 AM.
Anyone use this to replace google photos/backup and remove photos from phone? I have a ds211j i stopped using years ago (except for some occasional backup) because it was too slow.
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08-12-2022 at 09:40 AM.
08-12-2022 at 09:40 AM.
Quote from n0chance :
Anyone use this to replace google photos/backup and remove photos from phone? I have a ds211j i stopped using years ago (except for some occasional backup) because it was too slow.
This is what I plan on doing. There are more than a few guides on Google and Reddit. Just a tip, make sure to Exifixit or something similar to restructure the metadata that Google removes during takeout or else all of your added pictures will wind up having the current date and annoying to go through. Hopefully someone with firsthand experience can comment on the easiest way.
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