Model: Southwire 25890002 2589SW0002 Outdoor Cord-12/3 SJTW Heavy Duty 3 Prong Extension Cord, Water Resistant Vinyl Jacket, for Commercial Use and Major Appliances, Foot, Yellow, 100 Feet, Ft
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I bought this March 2021 and it was $27.59. I am NOT saying that to play that game some do where they call something a bad deal because if you had a time machine, you can do better. But just giving a data point. I don't know how much this current price is based on material/inflation costs and may be temporary or if this is a permanent good price.
So more just info for those that don't need this cord, and may (like me) buy it just because it's a good price for right now. If we see supply chain and commodity prices relax in the next year or so, hopefully these can come back down closer to what I paid.
Yes. The building inspector would definitely have an objection to doing this.
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Really tempted to put this in trench and 3/4 conduit out to my shed and cut the ends off. No one is going to check it ever and it's plenty safe. Less than half the price of 12/2 romex which is what I was going to run.
Really tempted to put this in trench and 3/4 conduit out to my shed and cut the ends off. No one is going to check it ever and it's plenty safe. Less than half the price of 12/2 romex which is what I was going to run.
If you are going to trench, you might as well do it right...
Maybe "limitation' may have been a poor word choice. The receptacles are designed to mate with 125v systems and sold as such, but the voltage insulation properties are what really matters. Furthermore, your obsession with native wire colors and color coding are over the top as in many real world installation the wires may be re-colored when they are repurposed. If I wanted to repurpose this extension cord for a flexible cord for a 240v lower amperage device I would recolor the wires with tape. I work with electrical systems professionally and not speculating like you...
You're not fooling me and it's hilarious that you say "I work with electrical systems professionally and not speculating like you...", especially when your previous comment (quoted below) shows that you're so clueless that you didn't even know that the standard max voltage rating for SJTW insulated wires is 300 volts. I guess when you say that you "work with electrical systems professionally", that means the most you've done with wiring is hook up a power supply to a PC or change a taillight bulb in your car.
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I would say it is more of a limitation of the NEMA 5-15 plug ends which are made to mate with 125v systems. Perhaps, someone can chime in with the max voltage rating imprinted on the wire?
No, I'm not "over the top" on wire color coding and doing things correctly.
You just haven't seen all the wiring hack jobs that I've seen.
Half of the 'hack job' posters here were not only talking about using this cord for 240v applications (and that guy unspecified if he intended 'in the wall'/more permanent application, or just as a very temporary extension cord connection), but many wanted to actually use it 'in the wall' or even buried, all to replace more costly Romex.
They completely overlook how solid vs stranded wire is significantly different, as well, and most times not 'interchangeable'.
You giving a 'blanket statement' that it's alright if you "recolor" wires shows how much you overlook. You didn't even know any specifics of the 240v application that questioner planned on doing. Are you SURE he intended to use it strictly as a temporary 240v extension cord or the amps he needed? No. That matters. Maybe he wanted to run his 240v 40-50 amp stove off of it, which would cook the conductors in a heartbeat.
It's pretty senseless to buy this cord for 240v application, then offset the cord cost savings by having to buy $25 or more for a 240v plug and receptacle.
"Re-coloring" the ends of wires is laughably senseless when the the wires are fully encased in a jacketed extension cord and also hidden by the plug/receptacle on the ends.
You're not fooling me and it's hilarious that you say "I work with electrical systems professionally and not speculating like you...", especially when your previous comment (quoted below) shows that you're so clueless that you didn't even know that the standard max voltage rating for SJTW insulated wires is 300 volts. I guess when you say that you "work with electrical systems professionally", that means the most you've done with wiring is hook up a power supply to a PC or change a taillight bulb in your car.
No, I'm not "over the top" on wire color coding and doing things correctly.
You just haven't seen all the wiring hack jobs that I've seen.
Half of the 'hack job' posters here were not only talking about using this cord for 240v applications (and that guy unspecified if he intended 'in the wall'/more permanent application, or just as a very temporary extension cord connection), but many wanted to actually use it 'in the wall' or even buried, all to replace more costly Romex.
They completely overlook how solid vs stranded wire is significantly different, as well, and most times not 'interchangeable'.
You giving a 'blanket statement' that it's alright if you "recolor" wires shows how much you overlook. You didn't even know any specifics of the 240v application that questioner planned on doing. Are you SURE he intended to use it strictly as a temporary 240v extension cord or the amps he needed? No. That matters. Maybe he wanted to run his 240v 40-50 amp stove off of it, which would cook the conductors in a heartbeat.
It's pretty senseless to buy this cord for 240v application, then offset the cord cost savings by having to buy $25 or more for a 240v plug and receptacle.
"Re-coloring" the ends of wires is laughably senseless when the the wires are fully encased in a jacketed extension cord and also hidden by the plug/receptacle on the ends.
Alright, you are smarter than me...Where do I plug the pc power supply wire into the photo below and i can't seem to find the taillight bulb i need to replace in this strange box I opened today Maybe you can help me find the completely white neutral coming from the transformer tap to the neutral bus bar?
Alright, you are smarter than me...Where do I plug the pc power supply wire into the photo below and i can't seem to find the taillight bulb i need to replace in this strange box I opened today Maybe you can help me find the completely white neutral coming from the transformer tap to the neutral bus bar?
So you post a pic of a measly 7 circuit transfer sub-panel, which proves absolutely nothing. It may even be a pic you pulled off the internet.
Plus it has zero to do with extension cord applications.
Post a video of you wiring up a complete 200 amp main panel with showing all the runs from that panel, if you want any credibility
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If you knew anything, you sure wouldn't be asking to "find the completely white neutral" on a service line. If you knew anything, you'd already know that both hot legs of service lines are black and the neutral is typically bare. Service lines aren't even pertinent, Einstein, as those are the sole property of the utility company and are off-limits to any individual.
Really tempted to put this in trench and 3/4 conduit out to my shed and cut the ends off. No one is going to check it ever and it's plenty safe. Less than half the price of 12/2 romex which is what I was going to run.
Going rate in my area is about $90 for 100ft of 12/2 UF-B direct burial, with strange commodity pricing in the last two years, its cheaper than regular 12/2 nm-b romex. If you have to buy the conduit for the extension cord plan... schedule 40 3/4 PVC is 2x normal and above $10 for a 10ft piece. The UF-B route is cheaper and can be code if you want to bury it deep enough. I just did my shed legit at 125 foot in conduit with 4 8 gauge thwn2 wires pulled. Probably close to $700 total all said and done with breakers, subpanel, grounding rods, odds and ends, conduit, glue, and trencher rental. ouch.. For years I was using an leaving out a 100 ft 12 gauge extension stretched through the yard.
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Will this work as a temporary solution for an whole house fan in the attic until I install an outlet up there?
If the fan has a plug on it and the cord can reach
Is this a fan that sits in the attic itself and vents only the attic or one that pulls air through the houses open windows and discharges up through ceiling louvers into the attic? Just wondering. One of my relatives had the later and I loved the concept. He didn't have AC but at night you could open a window in any room and get a nice breeze in that room.
So you post a pic of a measly 7 circuit transfer sub-panel, which proves absolutely nothing. It may even be a pic you pulled off the internet.
Plus it has zero to do with extension cord applications.
Post a video of you wiring up a complete 200 amp main panel with showing all the runs from that panel, if you want any credibility
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If you knew anything, you sure wouldn't be asking to "find the completely white neutral" on a service line. If you knew anything, you'd already know that both hot legs of service lines are black and the neutral is typically bare. Service lines aren't even pertinent, Einstein, as those are the sole property of the utility company and are off-limits to any individual.
Shows how much you know. That is the the primary service panel not a sub-panel , and is being serviced by a ground mounted transformer . It was you with the color coding obsession insisting that the the problem was the all white neutral that would confuse someone and colors matter. In the photo I posted, the black wire by your standards must be HOT because color coding matters and its default color is black. In this case it is painted a different color because it has been repurposed and that was the point I was trying to make and it is common for flexible cords to have a color repainted if repurposed as another poster informed you as per NEC code.
Lets keep it real. This cord being used for 240v applications and as FLEXIBLE cord is very limited as most things that require 240V in the United States will draw far more than 15A,but your insistence that the white neutral was the biggest issue because it defeats the color coding if you are running HOT across is idiotic when a responsible person would repaint it. I wouldn't use the cord in the thread as a 240V extension cord because I have plenty of 6/4 flexible cord from jobs and would use that and make whatever I need.
As far as people using this for fixed permanent wiring, that I would object to as using this cord for that purpose is not code compliant and dangerous.Using this as flexible cord to power whatever low amperage 240v machinery/device when you understand what you are doing is not the end of the world. Stupid people will die and that is the way life goes...
Will this work as a temporary solution for an whole house fan in the attic until I install an outlet up there?
Shouldn't be a problem, in fact it might be somewhat of an overkill. This 100 ft 12 gauge extension can handle 14-15 amps. Your attic fan (the amps should be printed on the motor) probably isn't more than 3-5 amps.
Just a suggestion regarding your outlet install. Just be sure to install some sort of remote switch or timer. It is always a bit of a pain to have to run up to the attic to turn it off in the middle of the night when the house cools down (I speak from experience).
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So more just info for those that don't need this cord, and may (like me) buy it just because it's a good price for right now. If we see supply chain and commodity prices relax in the next year or so, hopefully these can come back down closer to what I paid.
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You just haven't seen all the wiring hack jobs that I've seen.
Half of the 'hack job' posters here were not only talking about using this cord for 240v applications (and that guy unspecified if he intended 'in the wall'/more permanent application, or just as a very temporary extension cord connection), but many wanted to actually use it 'in the wall' or even buried, all to replace more costly Romex.
They completely overlook how solid vs stranded wire is significantly different, as well, and most times not 'interchangeable'.
You giving a 'blanket statement' that it's alright if you "recolor" wires shows how much you overlook. You didn't even know any specifics of the 240v application that questioner planned on doing. Are you SURE he intended to use it strictly as a temporary 240v extension cord or the amps he needed? No. That matters. Maybe he wanted to run his 240v 40-50 amp stove off of it, which would cook the conductors in a heartbeat.
It's pretty senseless to buy this cord for 240v application, then offset the cord cost savings by having to buy $25 or more for a 240v plug and receptacle.
"Re-coloring" the ends of wires is laughably senseless when the the wires are fully encased in a jacketed extension cord and also hidden by the plug/receptacle on the ends.
No, I'm not "over the top" on wire color coding and doing things correctly.
You just haven't seen all the wiring hack jobs that I've seen.
Half of the 'hack job' posters here were not only talking about using this cord for 240v applications (and that guy unspecified if he intended 'in the wall'/more permanent application, or just as a very temporary extension cord connection), but many wanted to actually use it 'in the wall' or even buried, all to replace more costly Romex.
They completely overlook how solid vs stranded wire is significantly different, as well, and most times not 'interchangeable'.
You giving a 'blanket statement' that it's alright if you "recolor" wires shows how much you overlook. You didn't even know any specifics of the 240v application that questioner planned on doing. Are you SURE he intended to use it strictly as a temporary 240v extension cord or the amps he needed? No. That matters. Maybe he wanted to run his 240v 40-50 amp stove off of it, which would cook the conductors in a heartbeat.
It's pretty senseless to buy this cord for 240v application, then offset the cord cost savings by having to buy $25 or more for a 240v plug and receptacle.
"Re-coloring" the ends of wires is laughably senseless when the the wires are fully encased in a jacketed extension cord and also hidden by the plug/receptacle on the ends.
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how are you going to let someone talk you out of macgyvering?
Ah I see lol
Plus it has zero to do with extension cord applications.
Post a video of you wiring up a complete 200 amp main panel with showing all the runs from that panel, if you want any credibility
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If you knew anything, you sure wouldn't be asking to "find the completely white neutral" on a service line. If you knew anything, you'd already know that both hot legs of service lines are black and the neutral is typically bare. Service lines aren't even pertinent, Einstein, as those are the sole property of the utility company and are off-limits to any individual.
This is my reaction to your laughable attempt:
Hey Marcella!! [youtube.com]
Do not buy the harbor freight ones that ends get loose and they stop staying tight after 2 months. They really suck.
Is this a fan that sits in the attic itself and vents only the attic or one that pulls air through the houses open windows and discharges up through ceiling louvers into the attic? Just wondering. One of my relatives had the later and I loved the concept. He didn't have AC but at night you could open a window in any room and get a nice breeze in that room.
Plus it has zero to do with extension cord applications.
Post a video of you wiring up a complete 200 amp main panel with showing all the runs from that panel, if you want any credibility
.
If you knew anything, you sure wouldn't be asking to "find the completely white neutral" on a service line. If you knew anything, you'd already know that both hot legs of service lines are black and the neutral is typically bare. Service lines aren't even pertinent, Einstein, as those are the sole property of the utility company and are off-limits to any individual.
This is my reaction to your laughable attempt:
Hey Marcella!! [youtube.com]
Lets keep it real. This cord being used for 240v applications and as FLEXIBLE cord is very limited as most things that require 240V in the United States will draw far more than 15A,but your insistence that the white neutral was the biggest issue because it defeats the color coding if you are running HOT across is idiotic when a responsible person would repaint it. I wouldn't use the cord in the thread as a 240V extension cord because I have plenty of 6/4 flexible cord from jobs and would use that and make whatever I need.
As far as people using this for fixed permanent wiring, that I would object to as using this cord for that purpose is not code compliant and dangerous.Using this as flexible cord to power whatever low amperage 240v machinery/device when you understand what you are doing is not the end of the world. Stupid people will die and that is the way life goes...
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Just a suggestion regarding your outlet install. Just be sure to install some sort of remote switch or timer. It is always a bit of a pain to have to run up to the attic to turn it off in the middle of the night when the house cools down (I speak from experience).