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ASUS ROG Rapture WiFi 6E Gaming Router (GT-AXE11000) $400.25

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Sep 14, 2022
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pidge
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For a while there, I liked how some expensive routers 8 ethernet sports but now they are going back to only featuring 4-5 Frown
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Jsz0301
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Quote from pidge :
For a while there, I liked how some expensive routers 8 ethernet sports but now they are going back to only featuring 4-5
That's because the SoC only has support for 4+1 native without adding a secondary switch.

This specific model requires a smaller add on switch for the 2.5G WAN port on the right side (+ 2nd 3.0 port).

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Anyway... This is effectively a dual band router. I say that because the 6Ghz band is completely useless for majority of clients and WIFI7 BE is currently in production/distribution for OEM.

Unless you have an intel 6E card for desktop/laptop or a phone that could connect (Likely doesnt need speed to start with), it does nothing..

My AXE11000 never has anything connected to the 6GHZ band even though I have a desktop client for testing.

You're better off waiting for 2nd gen AX hardware to get cheaper. This has older first gen AX hardware from 2018.

Edit:

Best case scenario with these is a 6E wireless mesh backhaul between two units. Since 9/10 times you're the only one accessing this spectrum locally. 5G is very congested and will contribute to speed loss when neighbors overlap unii 1 +3.

IE: 6E main router > WL BH 6E Hub > 5G for all clients close to each router.

The older AX11000 on sale for $250-300 would be a much better deal (same radios/CPU/etc) Even has a slightly higher powered 5G for unii-1 channels, though the antennas are different. I don't have the older model to compare..
Last edited by Jsz0301 September 13, 2022 at 11:21 PM.
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PeteyTheStriker
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Must keep holding off till the PRO series comes out!
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snowcrash
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Waiting for the stupid comments like wifi 7 is about to come out in 2024 so it's better to wait for it instead of wasting $400 on an obsolete router.
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monkeyass408
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Quote from snowcrash :
Waiting for the stupid comments like wifi 7 is about to come out in 2024 so it's better to wait for it instead of wasting $400 on an obsolete router.
Not from me.

I need an upgrade. I have wifi ac1900 (tmobile flashed with merlin).
Wifi 7 is too far out and u also have to wait for wifi 7 client device adoption to be useful. Getting the dual band or triband with two 5ghz wifi 6 doesnt seem good for me just to hold me over.

My router is coming in a couple of hours lol.
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Quote from snowcrash :
Waiting for the stupid comments like wifi 7 is about to come out in 2024 so it's better to wait for it instead of wasting $400 on an obsolete router.
The PRO version of the AX11000 is coming out soon, that is not even wifi 6E but it is wifi 6 and it has access to the new spectrum that was recently unlocked which will give it the benefit of new spectrum without the short range of the 6E.

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Quote from snowcrash :
Waiting for the stupid comments like wifi 7 is about to come out in 2024 so it's better to wait for it instead of wasting $400 on an obsolete router.
Honesty speaking, the older tri band GT-AX11000 (gen1) with sub $300 sale would be more effective for most users. I can't comment if the performance is better or worse.. AXE11000 may have different amps, EE, and or antenna design. I haven't bothered to compare...

This AXE11000 a good router, but you can get 90-95% of the performance with a cheap AX86S when it goes back on sale for $175 (1GBPS port).. or AX86U (2.5GBPS port) if it drops to $220 area again. All are effectively dual band with same Radio and CPU designs
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I don't consider 6E valid due to lack of clients, but it would be quite effective as a wireless backhaul. Same goes for UNII-4.



Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
The PRO version of the AX11000 is coming out soon, that is not even wifi 6E but it is wifi 6 and it has access to the new spectrum that was recently unlocked which will give it the benefit of new spectrum without the short range of the 6E.
I actually don't view it as short or longer range.

In high dense/congested areas (AKA: any modern suburban neighborhood) 6E undoubtably outperforms 5G in most scenarios, the problem is client support. It just doesn't exist... Will be the same case for UNII-4

IE: no one will bother to certify/re-certify hardware. May see a few updated/newer/revised Intel AX 2XX chips in PCs but that's it. Back to square one for the next 2-3 years. Then comes the WIFI7 rodeo Big Grin

At least the AX11000 PRO model is gen 2 with two 5G radios. More effective for traditional HW Smilie

In a perfect environment, I do agree. 5G is 100% better for obvious reasons, but FCC won't allow full power on unii-2 (required for 160mhz)..and the cluster f*ck of nonsense involved with heavy congested public channels.. I do wish 6G was pushed more. I'd argue its quite useful when you have 10-20 people on UNII-1-3 next to you. Interference is a bitch.

Basically UNII-4 and 6G don't matter and when do they do matter, WIFI7 hardware is already in full marketing push... Cant win
Last edited by Jsz0301 September 14, 2022 at 02:46 PM.
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Quote from pidge :
For a while there, I liked how some expensive routers 8 ethernet sports but now they are going back to only featuring 4-5 Frown
I currently have a router that has six ethernet ports on the back and I really want something with 8. Other than the ax1000 I think it's about the only one out there that has eight ports. I could be wrong maybe others could point me in the right direction
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daon
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still using my r8000 nighthawk from years ago. $138 right after launch thanks to SD and staples, and had an msrp of around triple that

$450 ON SALE for a consumer router is clown-world tier
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Quote from kukblue1 :
I currently have a router that has six ethernet ports on the back and I really want something with 8. Other than the ax1000 I think it's about the only one out there that has eight ports. I could be wrong maybe others could point me in the right direction
AX88U. Only supports 1GbE tough.

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