It's a tongfang design. Sold by many others as well. Schenker XMG, Eluktronics, and Xotic PC are a few others I've seen selling these laptops under their brands.
The 3080ti version is 175watts for the GPU, the 3070ti versions it's listed as "125w configurable to 150w" on this MicroCenter in-house review ( which also claims even the AMD versions have USB4/Thunderbolt 3 support!) https://community.microcenter.com...eup-review
I bought the 3080ti/12900/15.6" version in December when these were at their lowest prices (1600 for 3080ti, 1200 for 15" 3070ti AMD and Intel versions), but I'm regretting not getting this 6900/3070ti version in either 17 or 15 inch version as I think they'd have provided more than enough power at a lower price!
At least the 3080ti/12900 15" version is loud and hot, but not more so than other gaming laptops I've seen. It says "175W" for the GPU but i've never seen it maintain much more than 150 for any length of time. Build quality is pretty good, though not super premium by any means. I don't really like the keyboard on the 15" version, it's trying too hard to act like a mechanical desktop keyboard and ends up feeling too deep and spongey for a laptop. All in all, it's a great machine for the money! That said, I'm returning mine tomorrow because it's just too big and heavy for me and I found a good deal on a less powerful, but also smaller 14" gaming laptop I like carrying around much more.
Many people buy this laptop for its price, regardless of its poor quality design. If you do decide to get this, I would definitely get a laptop cooler for it and everything external.. like mouse and keyboard and monitor. This laptop is purely to replace a desktop, but fails at being a standalone laptop use. If you have all those externals and a cooler, then this would be okay for a desktop replacement.
I went to microcenter myself to look at it on display and decided to cancel my order afterwards lol. Still, the specs and price can't be beat with this laptop, best deal per dollar. However, if quality your looking for and using this as a standalone laptop without external mouse, keyboard, monitor... This is not the laptop for you in my opinion.
I went with the Asus 14" Zeph, got an open box for $999 with a 500 nit screen. I would go with the Asus Zeph 500 nit screen model or the Lenovo Legion 5 pro 500 nit screen if you want a standalone laptop.
I'll say it again, this laptop should only be considered if you plan on using all external mouse, keyboard and monitor. Make sure to get a laptop cooler as well since it has poor cooling. It is not portable and everything sucks on it as a standalone laptop. The only thing that doesn't suck is the specs inside it, which is why I recommend using it only with external needs as desktop replacement.
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01-08-2023 at 02:04 PM.
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Great specs, I agree, but I have never heard of this brand. Also begs the question how many watts to the GPU?
It's a tongfang design. Sold by many others as well. Schenker XMG, Eluktronics, and Xotic PC are a few others I've seen selling these laptops under their brands.
The 3080ti version is 175watts for the GPU, the 3070ti versions it's listed as "125w configurable to 150w" on this MicroCenter in-house review ( which also claims even the AMD versions have USB4/Thunderbolt 3 support!) https://community.microcenter.com...eup-review
I bought the 3080ti/12900/15.6" version in December when these were at their lowest prices (1600 for 3080ti, 1200 for 15" 3070ti AMD and Intel versions), but I'm regretting not getting this 6900/3070ti version in either 17 or 15 inch version as I think they'd have provided more than enough power at a lower price!
At least the 3080ti/12900 15" version is loud and hot, but not more so than other gaming laptops I've seen. It says "175W" for the GPU but i've never seen it maintain much more than 150 for any length of time. Build quality is pretty good, though not super premium by any means. I don't really like the keyboard on the 15" version, it's trying too hard to act like a mechanical desktop keyboard and ends up feeling too deep and spongey for a laptop. All in all, it's a great machine for the money! That said, I'm returning mine tomorrow because it's just too big and heavy for me and I found a good deal on a less powerful, but also smaller 14" gaming laptop I like carrying around much more.
It's a tongfang design. Sold by many others as well. Schenker XMG, Eluktronics, and Xotic PC are a few others I've seen selling these laptops under their brands.
The 3080ti version is 175watts for the GPU, the 3070ti versions it's listed as "125w configurable to 150w" on this MicroCenter in-house review ( which also claims even the AMD versions have USB4/Thunderbolt 3 support!) https://community.microcenter.com...eup-review[microcenter.com]
I bought the 3080ti/12900/15.6" version in December when these were at their lowest prices (1600 for 3080ti, 1200 for 15" 3070ti AMD and Intel versions), but I'm regretting not getting this 6900/3070ti version in either 17 or 15 inch version as I think they'd have provided more than enough power at a lower price!
At least the 3080ti/12900 15" version is loud and hot, but not more so than other gaming laptops I've seen. It says "175W" for the GPU but i've never seen it maintain much more than 150 for any length of time. Build quality is pretty good, though not super premium by any means. I don't really like the keyboard on the 15" version, it's trying too hard to act like a mechanical desktop keyboard and ends up feeling too deep and spongey for a laptop. All in all, it's a great machine for the money! That said, I'm returning mine tomorrow because it's just too big and heavy for me and I found a good deal on a less powerful, but also smaller 14" gaming laptop I like carrying around much more.
Some people have cross-loaded bios or control software from different makes. Have you done any of those things?
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01-08-2023 at 07:21 PM.
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Some people have cross-loaded bios or control software from different makes. Have you done any of those things?
I have not. But no doubt it's possible/easy if you've ever messed with firmware or BIOS before. I wouldn't be surprised if you could just install the XMG or Eluktronics management software directly if you try, they should be identical machines hardware wise.
This model with the 6900 and 3070ti is probably the sweet spot, the 3080ti can't run at its advertised 175W but can maintain 150+ indefinitely in most situations. Plus, who needs 64GB of RAM in a gaming laptop?
Really, I found it to be a very impressive machine, especially at the price. I'm only returning mine because I after carrying the thing for a few days I was sure I wanted a 14" laptop instead since I.m traveling almost constantly this year and was looking for a gaming laptop that will rarely see my desk. If you're looking for a desktop-replacement laptop, these are hard to beat since you'll have so much money left over vs anything else with the same specs, and nothing of consequence to complain about with the laptop itself.
Some of the reviews were less than stellar describing overheating and issues with sleep/wake/hibernation. Sounds fixable through a BIOS update, but I've never heard of this brand. Who knows if the machine would ever get one?
17" for a laptop is a lot for portability. Tack on the 5+lbs this weighs, not exactly great for portability. Spec-wise though this checks a lot of boxes. Processor, RAM, QHD, high refresh rate — a lot to like with the specs in relation to the price.
Some of the reviews were less than stellar describing overheating and issues with sleep/wake/hibernation. Sounds fixable through a BIOS update, but I've never heard of this brand. Who knows if the machine would ever get one?
17" for a laptop is a lot for portability. Tack on the 5+lbs this weighs, not exactly great for portability. Spec-wise though this checks a lot of boxes. Processor, RAM, QHD, high refresh rate — a lot to like with the specs in relation to the price.
Having owned one for a few weeks, the heat and sleep/wake issues are no worse than any windows gaming laptop (I've tried things as premium as a Razer Blade, which was far worse at sleep/wake issues and got just as hot at a lower TGP due to being so much thinner). Which is to say, it's extremely hot, incredibly loud and rarely goes to sleep when you close the lid. As for Bios updates/fixes, apparently some of the other brands selling this design have better BIOS that you can easily load in, but I never had any issues other than 5lbs x 1" thick being too big for my needs.
It's not a premium product, which is why it's at such an aggressive price. If you want near-desktop Price/performance, these laptops are pretty good candidates.
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01-09-2023 at 02:10 AM.
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every review on the website looks like this laptop is unreliable and overheats...
I really really really want to love this laptop at this price, but it looks like a terrible decision
Many people buy this laptop for its price, regardless of its poor quality design. If you do decide to get this, I would definitely get a laptop cooler for it and everything external.. like mouse and keyboard and monitor. This laptop is purely to replace a desktop, but fails at being a standalone laptop use. If you have all those externals and a cooler, then this would be okay for a desktop replacement.
I went to microcenter myself to look at it on display and decided to cancel my order afterwards lol. Still, the specs and price can't be beat with this laptop, best deal per dollar. However, if quality your looking for and using this as a standalone laptop without external mouse, keyboard, monitor... This is not the laptop for you in my opinion.
I went with the Asus 14" Zeph, got an open box for $999 with a 500 nit screen. I would go with the Asus Zeph 500 nit screen model or the Lenovo Legion 5 pro 500 nit screen if you want a standalone laptop.
I'll say it again, this laptop should only be considered if you plan on using all external mouse, keyboard and monitor. Make sure to get a laptop cooler as well since it has poor cooling. It is not portable and everything sucks on it as a standalone laptop. The only thing that doesn't suck is the specs inside it, which is why I recommend using it only with external needs as desktop replacement.
I went to microcenter to grab the hp omen that was on sale there and I asked about this laptop. He said don't do it, specs are great but not worth it. The reviews are awful also.
I went to microcenter to grab the hp omen that was on sale there and I asked about this laptop. He said don't do it, specs are great but not worth it. The reviews are awful also.
I don't know how MC works, but if there is commission involved you always have to be careful about what salespeople say. I know that Samsung, HP, and Sony used to give points to employees on items sold to their companies. Intel did too, and I got a lot of nice things for pushing them over others. If they are saying HP quality is better than this, then that is odd since most HPs are not that good of quality.
I don't know how MC works, but if there is commission involved you always have to be careful about what salespeople say. I know that Samsung, HP, and Sony used to give points to employees on items sold to their companies. Intel did too, and I got a lot of nice things for pushing them over others. If they are saying HP quality is better than this, then that is odd since most HPs are not that good of quality.
Definitely commission involved but this laptop was 400 dollars more than what I bought.
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The 3080ti version is 175watts for the GPU, the 3070ti versions it's listed as "125w configurable to 150w" on this MicroCenter in-house review ( which also claims even the AMD versions have USB4/Thunderbolt 3 support!) https://community.micro
I bought the 3080ti/12900/15.6" version in December when these were at their lowest prices (1600 for 3080ti, 1200 for 15" 3070ti AMD and Intel versions), but I'm regretting not getting this 6900/3070ti version in either 17 or 15 inch version as I think they'd have provided more than enough power at a lower price!
At least the 3080ti/12900 15" version is loud and hot, but not more so than other gaming laptops I've seen. It says "175W" for the GPU but i've never seen it maintain much more than 150 for any length of time. Build quality is pretty good, though not super premium by any means. I don't really like the keyboard on the 15" version, it's trying too hard to act like a mechanical desktop keyboard and ends up feeling too deep and spongey for a laptop. All in all, it's a great machine for the money! That said, I'm returning mine tomorrow because it's just too big and heavy for me and I found a good deal on a less powerful, but also smaller 14" gaming laptop I like carrying around much more.
I went to microcenter myself to look at it on display and decided to cancel my order afterwards lol. Still, the specs and price can't be beat with this laptop, best deal per dollar. However, if quality your looking for and using this as a standalone laptop without external mouse, keyboard, monitor... This is not the laptop for you in my opinion.
I went with the Asus 14" Zeph, got an open box for $999 with a 500 nit screen. I would go with the Asus Zeph 500 nit screen model or the Lenovo Legion 5 pro 500 nit screen if you want a standalone laptop.
I'll say it again, this laptop should only be considered if you plan on using all external mouse, keyboard and monitor. Make sure to get a laptop cooler as well since it has poor cooling. It is not portable and everything sucks on it as a standalone laptop. The only thing that doesn't suck is the specs inside it, which is why I recommend using it only with external needs as desktop replacement.
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The 3080ti version is 175watts for the GPU, the 3070ti versions it's listed as "125w configurable to 150w" on this MicroCenter in-house review ( which also claims even the AMD versions have USB4/Thunderbolt 3 support!) https://community.micro
I bought the 3080ti/12900/15.6" version in December when these were at their lowest prices (1600 for 3080ti, 1200 for 15" 3070ti AMD and Intel versions), but I'm regretting not getting this 6900/3070ti version in either 17 or 15 inch version as I think they'd have provided more than enough power at a lower price!
At least the 3080ti/12900 15" version is loud and hot, but not more so than other gaming laptops I've seen. It says "175W" for the GPU but i've never seen it maintain much more than 150 for any length of time. Build quality is pretty good, though not super premium by any means. I don't really like the keyboard on the 15" version, it's trying too hard to act like a mechanical desktop keyboard and ends up feeling too deep and spongey for a laptop. All in all, it's a great machine for the money! That said, I'm returning mine tomorrow because it's just too big and heavy for me and I found a good deal on a less powerful, but also smaller 14" gaming laptop I like carrying around much more.
The 3080ti version is 175watts for the GPU, the 3070ti versions it's listed as "125w configurable to 150w" on this MicroCenter in-house review ( which also claims even the AMD versions have USB4/Thunderbolt 3 support!) https://community.microcenter.com...eup-review [microcenter.com]
I bought the 3080ti/12900/15.6" version in December when these were at their lowest prices (1600 for 3080ti, 1200 for 15" 3070ti AMD and Intel versions), but I'm regretting not getting this 6900/3070ti version in either 17 or 15 inch version as I think they'd have provided more than enough power at a lower price!
At least the 3080ti/12900 15" version is loud and hot, but not more so than other gaming laptops I've seen. It says "175W" for the GPU but i've never seen it maintain much more than 150 for any length of time. Build quality is pretty good, though not super premium by any means. I don't really like the keyboard on the 15" version, it's trying too hard to act like a mechanical desktop keyboard and ends up feeling too deep and spongey for a laptop. All in all, it's a great machine for the money! That said, I'm returning mine tomorrow because it's just too big and heavy for me and I found a good deal on a less powerful, but also smaller 14" gaming laptop I like carrying around much more.
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This model with the 6900 and 3070ti is probably the sweet spot, the 3080ti can't run at its advertised 175W but can maintain 150+ indefinitely in most situations. Plus, who needs 64GB of RAM in a gaming laptop?
Really, I found it to be a very impressive machine, especially at the price. I'm only returning mine because I after carrying the thing for a few days I was sure I wanted a 14" laptop instead since I.m traveling almost constantly this year and was looking for a gaming laptop that will rarely see my desk. If you're looking for a desktop-replacement laptop, these are hard to beat since you'll have so much money left over vs anything else with the same specs, and nothing of consequence to complain about with the laptop itself.
17" for a laptop is a lot for portability. Tack on the 5+lbs this weighs, not exactly great for portability. Spec-wise though this checks a lot of boxes. Processor, RAM, QHD, high refresh rate — a lot to like with the specs in relation to the price.
17" for a laptop is a lot for portability. Tack on the 5+lbs this weighs, not exactly great for portability. Spec-wise though this checks a lot of boxes. Processor, RAM, QHD, high refresh rate — a lot to like with the specs in relation to the price.
It's not a premium product, which is why it's at such an aggressive price. If you want near-desktop Price/performance, these laptops are pretty good candidates.
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I really really really want to love this laptop at this price, but it looks like a terrible decision
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I really really really want to love this laptop at this price, but it looks like a terrible decision
I went to microcenter myself to look at it on display and decided to cancel my order afterwards lol. Still, the specs and price can't be beat with this laptop, best deal per dollar. However, if quality your looking for and using this as a standalone laptop without external mouse, keyboard, monitor... This is not the laptop for you in my opinion.
I went with the Asus 14" Zeph, got an open box for $999 with a 500 nit screen. I would go with the Asus Zeph 500 nit screen model or the Lenovo Legion 5 pro 500 nit screen if you want a standalone laptop.
I'll say it again, this laptop should only be considered if you plan on using all external mouse, keyboard and monitor. Make sure to get a laptop cooler as well since it has poor cooling. It is not portable and everything sucks on it as a standalone laptop. The only thing that doesn't suck is the specs inside it, which is why I recommend using it only with external needs as desktop replacement.
I don't know how MC works, but if there is commission involved you always have to be careful about what salespeople say. I know that Samsung, HP, and Sony used to give points to employees on items sold to their companies. Intel did too, and I got a lot of nice things for pushing them over others. If they are saying HP quality is better than this, then that is odd since most HPs are not that good of quality.
Definitely commission involved but this laptop was 400 dollars more than what I bought.