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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Feb 07, 2023 08:36 PM
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575riderFeb 07, 2023 08:36 PM
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Quote from sleekwallet :
same here, whats your ETA ? mine still says February 15 to march 1. I'm in Southern california
March 4-31. Been that way since I ordered a MYLR Jan. 22.
Feb 07, 2023 08:39 PM
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sleekwalletFeb 07, 2023 08:39 PM
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Quote from 575rider :
March 4-31. Been that way since I ordered a MYLR Jan. 22.

Most likely that's our group range, and it won't change until they get the new supply batch allocated
Feb 07, 2023 08:40 PM
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chomperz916Feb 07, 2023 08:40 PM
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Quote from 575rider :
Nice! What's the estimated delivery date? Changed mine early on the 3rd but still no VIN or date update.
Feb 18th to 27th. I live in northern CA.
Feb 07, 2023 08:42 PM
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rkingjFeb 07, 2023 08:42 PM
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boost option (cost 2000$) enabled shaving off 0.6 seconds from the 0-60 mph (0-96 kph) acceleration time by adding approximately 50 HP in Model 3. I assume that MYLR with 980 Motor + boost option will be still not as good as MYP Smilie
Last edited by rkingj February 7, 2023 at 01:45 PM.
Feb 07, 2023 08:49 PM
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rkingjFeb 07, 2023 08:49 PM
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I mean, before MYP brakes were downgraded...........

https://zevcentric.com/blogs/zevc...y-teardown
Quote from MurraytheDemonSkull :
I see acceleration boost as an option for me.



Brakes are the same too
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Feb 07, 2023 08:52 PM
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KnightshadeFeb 07, 2023 08:52 PM
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Quote from rkingj :
boost option (cost 2000$) enabled shaving off 0.6 seconds from the 0-60 mph (0-96 kph) acceleration time by adding approximately 50 HP in Model 3. I assume that MYLR with 980 Motor + boost option will be still not as good as MYP Smilie

Boost option is available with either motor

It delivers roughly half the difference between the P and the unboosted LR model.

Having a 980 is of no value at all to the end user, unless they plan to pursue a 3rd party hack to turn it into a P.

(The brake difference is also of no value in normal street use of course,...might be of some benefit if you take the car to the track, but even then not much given it was the rear calipers and you'd likely be better off with aftermarket brake options from folks like MPP in that case)
Feb 07, 2023 08:54 PM
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sleekwalletFeb 07, 2023 08:54 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Boost option is available with either motor

It delivers roughly half the difference between the P and the unboosted LR model.

Having a 980 is of no value at all to the end user, unless they plan to pursue a 3rd party hack to turn it into a P.

(The brake difference is also of no value in normal street use of course,...might be of some benefit if you take the car to the track, but you'd likely be better off with aftermarket brake options from folks like MPP in that case)

then in your opinion there's little to no value to pay for the performance option?

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Feb 07, 2023 08:54 PM
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rkingjFeb 07, 2023 08:54 PM
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completely agree !!!
Quote from Knightshade :
Boost option is available with either motor

It delivers roughly half the difference between the P and the unboosted LR model.

Having a 980 is of no value at all to the end user, unless they plan to pursue a 3rd party hack to turn it into a P.

(The brake difference is also of no value in normal street use of course,...might be of some benefit if you take the car to the track, but even then not much given it was the rear calipers and you'd likely be better off with aftermarket brake options from folks like MPP in that case)
Feb 07, 2023 08:59 PM
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nosugarpleaseFeb 07, 2023 08:59 PM
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Anyone did successful transfer? How do these work?
I have the basic config MYLR reserved after $500 increase. Showing feb-mar and no updates as I did not fill any registration details.
Feb 07, 2023 09:04 PM
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SlickDealBaeFeb 07, 2023 09:04 PM
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Quote from chomperz916 :
Feb 18th to 27th. I live in northern CA.
I change to P on 2/3. EDD 2/15-3/22 haven't change. Originally bought on 1/15. Southern CA. Hopefully I get VIN soon
Feb 07, 2023 09:05 PM
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RWelchSFeb 07, 2023 09:05 PM
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anyone have an idea on insurance difference per year on a mylr vs myp?
Feb 07, 2023 09:16 PM
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KnightshadeFeb 07, 2023 09:16 PM
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Quote from sleekwallet :
then in your opinion there's little to no value to pay for the performance option?

There's some advantages... how much (if anything) they're worth will vary by buyer.

The 2 biggest ones to my mind are:


You get the other half of the quicker acceleration that the boost on an LR does not get you.

You get access to track mode.



You also get access to the 21" wheels from the factory, and a top speed increase from 135 to 155... plus a couple cosmetic things (alloy pedals, carbon fiber spoiler)



My thinking is, if you don't mind the 21" wheels (personally I hate big wheels, ride is rougher and it's easier to damage the rims on potholes too) AND you care about quickness at all.... then the P is an easy buy.

Since you were already going to pay 2k for "half" the performance difference with boost, why not pay 3k instead to get ALL of that performance difference... plus track mode access and the top speed and cosmetic bumps too.

If you do NOT care about quickness, then skip the P as you wouldn't be buying the boost either and you save 3k.

(If you care about quickness but hate the 21s you can always sell them and swap smaller wheels on after the fact, just a bit of a PITA to do)
Feb 07, 2023 09:18 PM
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sleekwalletFeb 07, 2023 09:18 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
There's some advantages... how much (if anything) they're worth will vary by buyer.

The 2 biggest ones to my mind are:


You get the other half of the quicker acceleration that the boost on an LR does not get you.

You get access to track mode.



You also get access to the 21" wheels from the factory, and a top speed increase from 135 to 155... plus a couple cosmetic things (alloy pedals, carbon fiber spoiler)



My thinking is, if you don't mind the 21" wheels (personally I hate big wheels, ride is rougher and it's easier to damage the rims on potholes too) AND you care about quickness at all.... then the P is an easy buy.

Since you were already going to pay 2k for "half" the performance difference with boost, why not pay 3k instead to get ALL of that performance difference... plus track mode access and the top speed and cosmetic bumps too.

If you do NOT care about quickness, then skip the P as you wouldn't be buying the boost either and you save 3k.

(If you care about quickness but hate the 21s you can always sell them and swap smaller wheels on after the fact, just a bit of a PITA to do)
true, good point, thanks for explaining it
Feb 07, 2023 09:32 PM
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BrentBurnzFeb 07, 2023 09:32 PM
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Got my VIN this morning with pickup later this week (ordered on 1/15).
So what are the things I should be looking at regarding the VIN? FWIW, my order is the MYLR, not performance.

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Feb 07, 2023 09:36 PM
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BrooklyniteFeb 07, 2023 09:36 PM
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That is not based on an actual test with evidence, its more of a marketing blog by a conservative pro-car publication. Says 12-15% I have read 20-36% depending on amperage. Plus I am talking about charging from near empty to 100%, the efficiency as battery gains over 70% charge is much lower that mid levels.

Plus you lose about 4 miles /day on charge, drive or not.
Quote from MacB00kemDanno :
It's nowhere near 12 to 15 percent for me in normal use. I use Tessie to track every single charge I make on my Model 3, and my losses range from 4 to 6 percent. The first attached image shows 96% efficiency charging from 9 percent to 90% (90% is my max usually set for the week).

The second attached image shows 96% efficiency going from 47% to 100% (when I was going on a long trip).
How does Tessie know what goes on in your meter? Does it have a hardware device wrapped around your charging cable?

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