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expiredTourist1292 posted Feb 17, 2023 08:21 PM
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Ecoflow Delta2 LiFePO4 portable power station $800 or Delta2+220W solar panel $1039.2 plus tax shipped from Ecoflowdirect eBay store

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With the coupon code PRESDAY20 for 20% off, the recently released Ecoflow Delta2 LiFePO4 is back on sale at $799 after coupon.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14470540...BMuL6lkMxh

Even better deal is the bundle with Ecoflow 220W bifacial solar panel that you can double dip with their $350 off and coupon ($1299 before 20% off coupon). Final cost after coupon is $1039.2. So it is $240 for adding the 220W bifacial solar panel which is usually >$350 when it is on sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14480214...7056681580

This bundle is currently on sale for $1299 at Amazon and $1399 at Ecoflow. It is also much cheaper than the previous deal.
https://slickdeals.net/f/16075918-ecoflow-delta2-1024wh-lifepo4-220w-bifacial-portable-solar-panel-power-station-solar-generator-1160-after-ymmv-coupon-or-1210-05-at-ef-ecoflow-us-via-amazon?v=1

Extra battery is also eligible to the 20% off making it $640 (cf $760 at Homedepot).

The seller is EcoFlow and it has 5 year warranty on these LiFePO4 powerstations.
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With the coupon code PRESDAY20 for 20% off, the recently released Ecoflow Delta2 LiFePO4 is back on sale at $799 after coupon.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14470540...BMuL6lkMxh

Even better deal is the bundle with Ecoflow 220W bifacial solar panel that you can double dip with their $350 off and coupon ($1299 before 20% off coupon). Final cost after coupon is $1039.2. So it is $240 for adding the 220W bifacial solar panel which is usually >$350 when it is on sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14480214...7056681580

This bundle is currently on sale for $1299 at Amazon and $1399 at Ecoflow. It is also much cheaper than the previous deal.
https://slickdeals.net/f/16075918-ecoflow-delta2-1024wh-lifepo4-220w-bifacial-portable-solar-panel-power-station-solar-generator-1160-after-ymmv-coupon-or-1210-05-at-ef-ecoflow-us-via-amazon?v=1

Extra battery is also eligible to the 20% off making it $640 (cf $760 at Homedepot).

The seller is EcoFlow and it has 5 year warranty on these LiFePO4 powerstations.

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Feb 18, 2023 01:51 AM
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ahhhhnooooFeb 18, 2023 01:51 AM
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The prices are good, but I've had a terrible experience with this specific unit (Delta 2). The fans will blast on randomly (in the morning when it's cold and been off all night), the unit stops charging at 40%, the app keeps disconnecting, and it doesn't detect output less than 10w (-ish). I've been going back and forth with customer service for 1 month and they've not solved any of the issues (a lot of "please try this" though).

I have an Ecoflow River Pro that works fine, but the Delta 2 has a lot of issues.
Feb 18, 2023 02:59 AM
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StrategyFreakFeb 18, 2023 02:59 AM
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I didn't vote on this deal since the prices are passable. Decent for what is offered.

However there is one critical caveat: the coupon is Ebay issued for a range of items/brands. The seller jacked up the underlying item price for both of these (both power and the bundle) to compensate for the coupon, if you look at the price history (https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564) for this powerstation, the price was actually lower without any coupon in January ($759). The coupon came into effect on Feb 15th.

These types of coupons use Ebay funds so this is a pure profit play for the seller, pretty (or very) scummy for the official Ecoflow account. They even advertise this as if it is "their sale" and promote the "after coupon price" on their listings, which is particularly deceiving.

Price history:
Powerstation: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564

Powerstation + panel: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564

For a bonus example of some price shenanigans, Look at this 220w refurbished panel: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564

They jacked up the price to $419 on the 15th but then there were many sales on the 16th at $219, but it was not reproducible - the listing was always $419 for me. I was wondering if my browser was messed up or something:

The panel price would've been amazing but I wonder if it was ever public. Did anyone reproduce it?

Ecoflow makes decent/good products (their powerstations have been good for me and their panels have matched their rated output), but this is a pretty shady move. Some other Ebay retailers do this too with the price raises during coupons, but Ecoflow has been particularly egregious.
Last edited by StrategyFreak February 17, 2023 at 07:49 PM.
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Quote from StrategyFreak :
I didn't vote on this deal since the prices are passable. Decent for what is offered.

However there are two critical caveats: first, these are refurbished units. So we should compare against prices for refubs, not the new units the OP is comparing against.

Second, the coupon is Ebay issued for a range of items/brands. The seller jacked up the underlying item price for both of these (both power and the bundle) to compensate for the coupon, if you look at the price histories for the refurbished powerstation, the price was actually lower without any coupon in January ($759). The coupon came into effect on Feb 15th.

These types of coupons use Ebay funds so this is a pure profit play for the seller, pretty (or very) scummy for the official Ecoflow account. They even advertise this as if it is "their sale" and promote the "after coupon price" on their listings, which is particularly deceiving.

Price history:
Powerstation: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564

Powerstation + panel: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564

For a bonus example of some price shenanigans, check out the pricing of the 220w refurbished panel. They jacked up the price to $419 on the 15th but then there were many sales on the 16th at $219, but I could never get that price - the listing was always $419 for me. I was wondering if my browser was messed up or something: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564

The panel price would've been amazing but I wonder if it was ever public. Did anyone reproduce it?

Ecoflow makes decent/good products (their powerstations have been good for me and their panels have matched their rated output), but this is a pretty shady move. Some other Ebay retailers do this too with the price raises during coupons, but Ecoflow has been particularly egregious.
It is new, not refurbished. They sold 37 in the last 24 hours.
Feb 18, 2023 03:28 AM
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tampa8Feb 18, 2023 03:28 AM
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Quote from StrategyFreak :
I didn't vote on this deal since the prices are passable. Decent for what is offered.

However there are two critical caveats: first, these are refurbished units. So we should compare against prices for refubs, not the new units the OP is comparing against.

Second, the coupon is Ebay issued for a range of items/brands. The seller jacked up the underlying item price for both of these (both power and the bundle) to compensate for the coupon, if you look at the price histories for the refurbished powerstation, the price was actually lower without any coupon in January ($759). The coupon came into effect on Feb 15th.

These types of coupons use Ebay funds so this is a pure profit play for the seller, pretty (or very) scummy for the official Ecoflow account. They even advertise this as if it is "their sale" and promote the "after coupon price" on their listings, which is particularly deceiving.

Price history:
Powerstation: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564 [ebay.com]

Powerstation + panel: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564 [ebay.com]

For a bonus example of some price shenanigans, check out the pricing of the 220w refurbished panel. They jacked up the price to $419 on the 15th but then there were many sales on the 16th at $219, but I could never get that price - the listing was always $419 for me. I was wondering if my browser was messed up or something: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564 [ebay.com]

The panel price would've been amazing but I wonder if it was ever public. Did anyone reproduce it?

Ecoflow makes decent/good products (their powerstations have been good for me and their panels have matched their rated output), but this is a pretty shady move. Some other Ebay retailers do this too with the price raises during coupons, but Ecoflow has been particularly egregious.wheE
Not refurbished, not some random seller it's direct. Where do you see it new for less before the coupon came out from them on Ebay, I have not.
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Feb 18, 2023 03:41 AM
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StrategyFreakFeb 18, 2023 03:41 AM
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Quote from tampa8 :
Not refurbished, not some random seller it's direct. Where do you see it new for less before the coupon came out from them on Ebay, I have not.
https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchase...4281.l2564

$759, its on the price history for this exact item number. (as listed here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/144705407256)

And you are right, this is the direct seller, which makes it all the more shady with their price practices, it's not like it's some third party seller trying to grind out some extra profit.

My mistake on the refurbished, there have been several posts of this exact item with the exact same price but refurbished, from the same seller across the site in the past 48 hours, so I personally have been wary:

https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=161737060&postcount=5
Last edited by StrategyFreak February 17, 2023 at 07:48 PM.
Feb 18, 2023 03:45 AM
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tampa8Feb 18, 2023 03:45 AM
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I see what you are saying but I don't see that they hiked it when the Coupon became available. As I said I did not see them hike it, look at the majority of reports, $999. I didn't say they never were lower, only that they didn't hike it. Hiking it would be over the $999 it normally goes for.Everyone has a sale, and very often they can't have that sale price and a coupon very understandable. If they were now at $1100 that would be hiking it.
Last edited by tampa8 February 17, 2023 at 08:02 PM.
Feb 18, 2023 04:07 AM
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StrategyFreakFeb 18, 2023 04:07 AM
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Quote from tampa8 :
That does not support your claim they hiked it when the Coupon became available. As I said I did not see them hike it, look at the majority of reports, $999. I didn't say they never were lower, only that they didn't hike it. Hiking it would be over the $999 it normally goes for.Everyone has a sale, and very often they can't have that sale price and a coupon very understandable. If they were now at $1100 that would be hiking it.

The last reported transaction price (aside from the obscure "special offers") was $759. Did you have data on the price before the Ebay coupon to suggest otherwise? Saying "you didn't see them hike it" or referencing prices further in the past isn't conclusive information.

RE: "Everyone has a sale, and very often they can't have that sale price and a coupon very understandable." they don't pay anything for the coupon, it's entirely funded by the marketplace (ebay). Other retailers do the "jack up the price during an ebay coupon" too, like BuyDig, but at least they don't do it to nearly this extent.

The "normal" price for this item is $899, as demonstrated on Wellbots here: https://www.wellbots.com/products...0282210352

Finally, the Delta 2 has gone on sale with a 160w panel as low as $879/$899, it was at this price for much of the holiday season last year. I've followed the pricing on this item very closely for a while now.

https://slickdeals.net/f/16196065-ecoflow-delta-2-portable-power-station-free-160w-solar-panel-for-889-879
Last edited by StrategyFreak February 17, 2023 at 08:19 PM.

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Feb 19, 2023 04:08 AM
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greenday2049Feb 19, 2023 04:08 AM
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I just bought Delta Mini + 110W for $600 deal
Which one would you prefer if you spend another $400 on this Delta 2 + 220W bifacial panel deal
Feb 21, 2023 03:54 AM
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StrategyFreakFeb 21, 2023 03:54 AM
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Quote from greenday2049 :
I just bought Delta Mini + 110W for $600 deal
Which one would you prefer if you spend another $400 on this Delta 2 + 220W bifacial panel deal

The previous deal is a significantly better value for the price ($/kWh and $/Watt). This one is an okay value, I would anticipate the prices on both to drop more over the coming year. I would only get this if you really need the LFP battery.
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Quote from greenday2049 :
I just bought Delta Mini + 110W for $600 deal
Which one would you prefer if you spend another $400 on this Delta 2 + 220W bifacial panel deal
The Delta 2 has 5 year warranty because of the LFP battery. The higher capacity, much faster charging, higher solar charging capacity, and more than double the warranty making this a better deal than the Delta mini.
Feb 22, 2023 02:54 AM
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StrategyFreakFeb 22, 2023 02:54 AM
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Quote from Tourist1292 :
The higher capacity, much faster charging, higher solar charging capacity
Delta Mini + 110W Panel ($600, assuming a very generous $500 for station):
Capacity: 882Wh ($0.566/Wh)
AC input: 900W
Solar input: 300W
NCM (800 cycles)

Delta 2 ($800):
Capacity: 1000Wh ($0.8/Wh)
AC input: 1200W
Solar input: 500W
LFP (3000 cycles)

In what world is this "much faster charging"? Moreover, in general these systems operate at 0-80% in 1 hr to keep the C rate in check and prevent damage from high charge rates, so the most you can get is 80% in 1 hr (which is still very good for portable batteries). Peak rate you're only getting for a short time.

LFP matters if you do a full cycle daily for 10 years. Unless you truly need that (which in that case you'd build/buy an actual home battery system, not this, which is way too overpriced for that use), you need to be realistic about the applications.

For serious off-grid vanlifers who are charging this everyday and then working off the grid, then it could be worth it. But even then it's probably better going with more cost-effective portable battery systems (even EcoFlow's larger batteries are cheaper and better that way).
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Quote from StrategyFreak :
Delta Mini + 110W Panel ($600, assuming a very generous $500 for station):
Capacity: 882Wh ($0.566/Wh)
AC input: 900W
Solar input: 300W
NCM (800 cycles)

Delta 2 ($800):
Capacity: 1000Wh ($0.8/Wh)
AC input: 1200W
Solar input: 500W
LFP (3000 cycles)

In what world is this "much faster charging"? Moreover, in general these systems operate at 0-80% in 1 hr to keep the C rate in check and prevent damage from high charge rates, so the most you can get is 80% in 1 hr (which is still very good for portable batteries). Peak rate you're only getting for a short time.

LFP matters if you do a full cycle daily for 10 years. Unless you truly need that (which in that case you'd build/buy an actual home battery system, not this, which is way too overpriced for that use), you need to be realistic about the applications.

For serious off-grid vanlifers who are charging this everyday and then working off the grid, then it could be worth it. But even then it's probably better going with more cost-effective portable battery systems (even EcoFlow's larger batteries are cheaper and better that way).
900 to 1200W AC charging is 33% higher, 300 to 500W solar charging is 66% increase. Period.
Feb 23, 2023 01:01 AM
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Quote from Tourist1292 :
900 to 1200W AC charging is 33% higher,

You're not hitting those rates for any time beyond 10 minutes or sol. Even Ecoflow themselves only advertise 0-80% in 1 hr or so, because pushing 1200W or 900W continuously will destroy the destroy the battery. period lol
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Quote from StrategyFreak :
You're not hitting those rates for any time beyond 10 minutes or sol. Even Ecoflow themselves only advertise 0-80% in 1 hr or so, because pushing 1200W or 900W continuously will destroy the destroy the battery. period lol
You are correct that you shouldn't be charging that fast consistently, but when you need to you can is nice. And having a 5 year warranty over the typical 2 year is definitely a huge plus. I found that one of the most important aspect of these battery is having high solar input is very important when you want free energy when you can only usually collect 5-8 hours of sunlight a day. And with LFP battery, you can just hook up some solar panel, run a cable to the battery in your garage or your room and plug it into any device like your TV system, or computer system etc all day and forget about it.

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Quote from StrategyFreak :
You're not hitting those rates for any time beyond 10 minutes or sol. Even Ecoflow themselves only advertise 0-80% in 1 hr or so, because pushing 1200W or 900W continuously will destroy the destroy the battery. period lol
Not so fast. 80% charge in 50min gives >800W capacity which is still much faster than getting 90% charge of the old model you compared. Not to mention you are trying to avoid the 500W solar charging capacity which is 66% faster. LOL.

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