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34" GIGABYTE M34WQ 3440x1440 144Hz 1ms IPS Ultrawide KVM Monitor
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this price is better than regular sale prices have been for the flat panel in the past 1.5 years.
Your work example is even taller than the typical 16:9 that most have. Definitely not the same case.
I'd side with what the other user was saying. At a roughly 18"-24" viewer distance, flat becomes less than ideal for the pupil to image distance at the corners.
I have two M27Qs. Can't say enough good things about 'em.
- Their Amazon review & Q&A sections are consolidated among all models, making it hard to find reviews on the G34WQCA.
- Enough of the negative reviews seemed to indicate great performance out of the box, but faded over time for the 27-inch and 34-inch displays.
- When filtering for "Curved|QHD|IPS", the product description says the G34WQCA is a VA panel. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the filtering...
- Since I intend to get an RTX GPU, I couldn't validate that the G34WQCA will not have an issue w/o g-sync for gaming.
There were enough concerns that I didn't get a good feeling as a consumer trusting my money with the expectation that these will endure. So much so, that I'd rather spend more on the Dell mentioned earlier or MSI's 343CQR (was $599 a week ago), or LG's 34GN850-B if I really feel IPS > VA for my use case. My shopping is in progress...
Your work example is even taller than the typical 16:9 that most have. Definitely not the same case.
I'd side with what the other user was saying. At a roughly 18"-24" viewer distance, flat becomes less than ideal for the pupil to image distance at the corners.
i have this exact monitor, sitting on my desk at home, that i'm currently on. my head is 18-20'' from the screen.
nobody said my work setup was the same case... just giving it as an example, as my setup with the 30'' (i miss-typed 32'') and 2 27'' on either side, being far wider and taller. so i'm used to a crazy wide setup, which is perhaps why this one 34'' flat doesn't bother me at home...
i'm glad you side with other posters... just giving my experience, having the monitor sitting right in front of me as i type.
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it's all personal preference. i am used to a 32'' (2560x1600) at work, that surrounded by 27s.
i'm actually waiting for another Used Like New to drop to ~300$ (i paid 299$ for the one i got last year), bought a retail at 399$ and the used like new 299$ to compare and kept the cheaper one. looking to grab another to throw on the wall above it.
- Their Amazon review & Q&A sections are consolidated among all models, making it hard to find reviews on the G34WQCA.
- Enough of the negative reviews seemed to indicate great performance out of the box, but faded over time for the 27-inch and 34-inch displays.
- When filtering for "Curved|QHD|IPS", the product description says the G34WQCA is a VA panel. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the filtering...
- Since I intend to get an RTX GPU, I couldn't validate that the G34WQCA will not have an issue w/o g-sync for gaming.
There were enough concerns that I didn't get a good feeling as a consumer trusting my money with the expectation that these will endure. So much so, that I'd rather spend more on the Dell mentioned earlier or MSI's 343CQR (was $599 a week ago), or LG's 34GN850-B if I really feel IPS > VA for my use case. My shopping is in progress...
I was also new to Gigabyte prior to shopping for a monitor. I've heard negative talk about their PC hardware on the internet, however based on this one model of monitor, I strongly disagree with it. The only products of theirs that I don't hear much negative about is their Aorus line.
I agree with the Amazon review and Q&A nonsense. Shame on Amazon for doing this for all kinds of products.
Regarding your 'degrading-over-time' comment, I doubt it based on my personal experience, but I cannot prove this, so I'll err to safety and say YMMV. What I will say is my oldest G34WQCA was abducted at the 10-hour mark by the other half. She uses it to work and game. After 1,600 hours confirmed by the monitor's menu, it still performs no different than brand new.
The G34WQCA is a VA panel. However, just like people are debating about curved versus flat in this thread, the IPS vs VA debate is similar. There is no blanket answer. It's personal preference after weighing facts. I tried many VA and IPS panels. I kept a VA after trying 10 different monitors. My eyes seem to reject IPS glow. They really freak out when viewing those panels. But that aside, I still would have chosen my VA. There are good VAs, and bad VAs. Of course people will bash a bad one, but how many will be buying a truly good one *and* take the time to praise it?
I have an EVGA RTX 3090 TI Hybrid. It perfoms beautifully with FreeSync. The G-Sync name/license is absent from 99% of monitors on the market. If it is FreeSync compatible, it is essentially G-Sync compatible and likely the manufacturer didn't want to pay the licensing fee. Please do not exclude monitors just because they lack the G-Sync logo. You'll only be shooting yourself in the foot.
If budget is a concern, the G34WQCA will be highly satisfying. It's only weakness IMO is the HDR. But what do you really expect for the price?
One of the few monitors I did not get to experience was the S3422DWG, because of it's 1800R curvature. That was an instant disqualifier for me. 1000R or 1500R was mandatory for me because of the science behind the curvature ratings and proximity to the screen. If you truly educate yourself on the topic, you'll understand why 1800R and flatter is truly a gimmick for gaming. I can offer *plenty* of advice on that, but again, I don't want to pollute the thread.
It's funny you mention it. After 10 monitors, I finally landed on the Artymis 343CQR. I snagged it when it dropped to $549. The HDR and 1000R curve is what sold me on it. Truly an amazing monitor that flies completely under the radar. Even the professional review sites don't mention it, including Rtings. And I can assure you it beats the brakes off of any IPS I tried in any category you want to throw at it.
My personal recommendation? If you have the funds, definitely go with the Artymis. The Dell is a consideration when it falls below $400 like it has numerous times (even as recent as 1 week ago). That's strictly based on reviews I've read though. Again, no personal experience with the Dell. But the Gigabyte is a rock solid contender for a much cheaper price. I feel the Rtings review of the G34WQC is pretty accurate to directly blanket the G34WQCA also. The only confirmed difference being the 1440p@120Hz support for Xbox Series S/X.
Hopefully this helps. Please don't be afraid to reach out if you want any further/specific details or questions answered. I'm happy to help.
I was also new to Gigabyte prior to shopping for a monitor. I've heard negative talk about their PC hardware on the internet, however based on this one model of monitor, I strongly disagree with it. The only products of theirs that I don't hear much negative about is their Aorus line.
I agree with the Amazon review and Q&A nonsense. Shame on Amazon for doing this for all kinds of products.
Regarding your 'degrading-over-time' comment, I doubt it based on my personal experience, but I cannot prove this, so I'll err to safety and say YMMV. What I will say is my oldest G34WQCA was abducted at the 10-hour mark by the other half. She uses it to work and game. After 1,600 hours confirmed by the monitor's menu, it still performs no different than brand new.
The G34WQCA is a VA panel. However, just like people are debating about curved versus flat in this thread, the IPS vs VA debate is similar. There is no blanket answer. It's personal preference after weighing facts. I tried many VA and IPS panels. I kept a VA after trying 10 different monitors. My eyes seem to reject IPS glow. They really freak out when viewing those panels. But that aside, I still would have chosen my VA. There are good VAs, and bad VAs. Of course people will bash a bad one, but how many will be buying a truly good one *and* take the time to praise it?
I have an EVGA RTX 3090 TI Hybrid. It perfoms beautifully with FreeSync. The G-Sync name/license is absent from 99% of monitors on the market. If it is FreeSync compatible, it is essentially G-Sync compatible and likely the manufacturer didn't want to pay the licensing fee. Please do not exclude monitors just because they lack the G-Sync logo. You'll only be shooting yourself in the foot.
If budget is a concern, the G34WQCA will be highly satisfying. It's only weakness IMO is the HDR. But what do you really expect for the price?
One of the few monitors I did not get to experience was the S3422DWG, because of it's 1800R curvature. That was an instant disqualifier for me. 1000R or 1500R was mandatory for me because of the science behind the curvature ratings and proximity to the screen. If you truly educate yourself on the topic, you'll understand why 1800R and flatter is truly a gimmick for gaming. I can offer *plenty* of advice on that, but again, I don't want to pollute the thread.
It's funny you mention it. After 10 monitors, I finally landed on the Artymis 343CQR. I snagged it when it dropped to $549. The HDR and 1000R curve is what sold me on it. Truly an amazing monitor that flies completely under the radar. Even the professional review sites don't mention it, including Rtings. And I can assure you it beats the brakes off of any IPS I tried in any category you want to throw at it.
My personal recommendation? If you have the funds, definitely go with the Artymis. The Dell is a consideration when it falls below $400 like it has numerous times (even as recent as 1 week ago). That's strictly based on reviews I've read though. Again, no personal experience with the Dell. But the Gigabyte is a rock solid contender for a much cheaper price. I feel the Rtings review of the G34WQC is pretty accurate to directly blanket the G34WQCA also. The only confirmed difference being the 1440p@120Hz support for Xbox Series S/X.
Hopefully this helps. Please don't be afraid to reach out if you want any further/specific details or questions answered. I'm happy to help.
That said, what you've suggested on the MSI panel is that smearing won't be an issue like this link suggests in general for VA panels: https://preview.redd.it/6g0hnj9ly...d&0
As an aside, the ASUS VG34VQL1B seems to be at a similar price point here for 34" curved and is the best rated 34" on RTINGS for at or below 1500R. Is this one of the x10 panels you tried? Note that the G34WQCA is next on the list after ASUS.
(btw, I did go back and find G34WQCA on Newegg and was able to filter for 34" - good reviews in general, imo)
Thanks, again!
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That said, what you've suggested on the MSI panel is that smearing won't be an issue like this link suggests in general for VA panels: https://preview.redd.it/6g0hnj9ly...d&0
As an aside, the ASUS VG34VQL1B seems to be at a similar price point here for 34" curved and is the best rated 34" on RTINGS for at or below 1500R. Is this one of the x10 panels you tried? Note that the G34WQCA is next on the list after ASUS.
(btw, I did go back and find G34WQCA on Newegg and was able to filter for 34" - good reviews in general, imo)
Thanks, again!
I'm also glad you seem to understand how curvature vs distance works. My personal rule is 1500R at or below 34", and 1000R at or above 34". Yes, this means both are acceptable at 34". I found 32" and smaller looks really goofy with 1000R, and too much neck twisting at anything at or above 1500R when above 34". It is my understanding that Dell makes pretty good monitors (unlike their hardware), but in order for me to consider them, they first need to put their big boy pants on and attempt 1000R. I'll even settle for 1500R. But they refuse to try either at 34" or above.
As for HDR... prior to the Artymis, I was 100% convinced HDR was a gimmick. The other monitors solidified this opinion as well. But the Artymis really lets it shine. I've learned one of the key factors is brightness. I usually despise bright screens, and would keep my brightness setting near minimum at all times. Now I keep it around 15-30% while working, and HDR mode (not changeable) when gaming. Good HDR on a good display is nothing short of stunning. It is absolutely NOT a gimmick, and I highly recommend spending a higher price tag just for good HDR alone. The G34WQCA will not impress you with HDR, but it can impress you on price if you can live without it. If it can be bought below $350, it's a great buy. The Artymis frequents the $600-650 mark, but I got mine for $549 without jumping through any hoops. It was just the right timing. I'd say if it's at or below $600 it's a buy. Above that, it seems a bit steep. You can use the 3C's aka Camel3x (because they censor the actual name here) to track Amazon prices.
Regarding ghosting, no VA panel is immune. However, my eyes pick up on smearing/ghosting *very* easily. The Artymis was the best of all the ones I tried, which included IPS panels. It barely ghosts at all, even at 60Hz on older games. I can't even remember the last time I saw it ghost now that I'm thinking about it. As confident as I am in this, I must also say YMMV, because everyone sees differently, and everyone has different expectations.
If I absolutely have to give a negative mark on the Artymis, it's that I can see some symmetrical clouding only on jet black load screens. But it's not terrible. The minute it goes to anything but solid black, it completely disappears. Severity I'd say is a 2 out of 10. This may also fall under that 'each panel is unique' thing, and may not be an issue with another.
As for the VG34VQL1B, yes, I did try that one as well. It was one of my least favorites. It had the most severe ghosting/smearing issues of all (even Rtings dinged it hard for smearing), several stuck/dead pixels yet not enough to classify as a warranty fix (each panel is different, YMMV), black uniformity/clouding was atrocious (also confirmed by Rtings), and was just overall underwhelming. IMO, the Gigabyte was the FAR better monitor between those two. No contest whatsoever. YMMV, I may have just had a really bad panel. But I did try a couple of Asus monitors, and they both were equally terrible. I like their hardware, but I think their monitors need some serious improvement.
I doubt it matters to you, but I plan to keep the Artymis until the Corsair Xeneon Flex drops to around the $1,500 mark. I may try it out then, and see if it's worth the hype and price tag. It's sister LG counterpart is cheaper, but at a fixed 800R, I think it's too aggressive and gimmicky. I plan to set the Flex to a 1000R curve. If the Flex doesn't live up to the hype, I'll keep my Artymis and buy another should it fail catastrophically.
But keep in mind, you need a monster GPU for large screens like the G9 and Flex. When I tried the Samsung G9 at 1440p, my 3090TI could barely remain above 90FPS on most games. It would tank down to 60-70 on some heavy-hitters like FH5. It's 240Hz limit was a pipe dream in all but the OG Super Mario Bros. Monitors really push cards with all that real estate. 4K is a separate but equal drag. That's the key reason I landed at 34" and 1440p. I like my frames...
Hopefully I kept this reply as bias-free as possible and it helps you (or anyone else reading) form your own opinions. Let me know if you'd like any other questions answered. Happy to help and share my experiences.